Naga Sadow

Originally posted by Illustrious
No, it was "Mark[b]a" Ragnos in the TOTJ comics, which were published long before KotOR. [/B]

Originally posted by Sorgo
It is, but rules are rules.

And it is MARKA Ragnos. Go read the comics, boys.

Good sorgo, atleast you understand. I played the game and beat it again and again and everytime I go past the tomb it spells Marka Ragnos and she says marka ragnos

Originally posted by Sorgo
It is, but rules are rules.

And it is MARKA Ragnos. Go read the comics, boys.

Not at all arrogant, so don't say that Ush is being so. He's right. It's been discussed to death, but no one ever seems to catch on and jumps on the EU fanboy band wagon.

But, it is Marka Ragnos, not Marko. Simple mistake.

Originally posted by Darth Nhilus
Good sorgo, atleast you understand. I played the game and beat it again and again and everytime I go past the tomb it spells Marka Ragnos and she says marka ragnos

Then they made a mistake with your copy...?

So far, we have not seen any sources refer to him as Marko.

I dunno, I've played with three different discs(Yeah, I know) and on about half a dozen stations, and they all say Marko. I took the time to check.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Not at all arrogant, so don't say that Ush is being so. He's right. It's been discussed to death, but no one ever seems to catch on and jumps on the EU fanboy band wagon.

But, it is Marka Ragnos, not Marko. Simple mistake.

Not a single person here said Ush was "Arrogant", unless you are referring to another member. Either that or you assume i was being arrogant.

Originally posted by Tangible God
Really? Every time I play it, it says Marko Ragnos, and they all say Marko.

Perhaps it is an older copy and fixed in the newer ones? I know Morrowind worked that way a lot.

Also in my copy Mission's voice is different than my friend Ray's, and that's just weird.

There probably is an ubdated one, mine came with the Xbox when i got it, and my Pc one followed shortly after. That means my versions are ones that came out first.

Yeah I could never buy KoTOR had to play it at rays house but I just bought it a couple weeks ago and have beat it 3 times since 😛, but I think that's probably the problem.

Originally posted by Dimmimar
Isn't that rather arrogant and petty? I'm merely raising a valid issue.

To which you replied...

Originally posted by Sorgo
It is, but rules are rules.

I'm not THAT insane. 😉

Then again, I've been doing homework all day and I'm severely tired, you could have meant 'It is a valid issue.' My apologies if that is what you meant, it just reads wrong, because 'It is' could apply to both parts of the sentence...

Originally posted by Lord Janus
Don't argue Ush on this one. It'll end in a quick retort and a closed thread. Let's avoid arguing canon issues, since it seems that this is a cardinal sin here at KMC. Even if we apply it only to our own debates, like we do over in the Versus Thread.

I think she was refering to this in a way, too. Apparently, we can't speak two words about the comics if we mention 'canon'. That just lights the fire and from what I've personally seen ends to closed threads and Ush putting his foot down.

It's one thing for a forum or mods to have a stance-fine, whatever... but since when does every single person have to go along and believe that Ush's or your definition or even Raz's definition of canon sticks? I mean, in the long run, I could say that darth Jawa Janus is canon and the progenitor of the Sith race, and I'd just be full of it. That's either totally obvious or people will figure it out with a bit of checking on their part. But is it a serious concern that every member here at KMC abide by the forum's stance on (especially) the comics? I don't see anyone closing down Versus threads because they contain comic characters or even ridiculous ideas (1.000.000.000 nuclear missiles versus the Death Star comes to mind) and there's an SS dupe every other new member... but I don't see those breaches getting the smack down.

Just saying, is there some compelling reason why we must -not- call the SW comics canon? Even quasi-canon, which was to my understanding most of EU that applies to the continuity. I mean, lots of information that is in the comics is used in novels and games. I don't see anyone burning villages over those yet. Well, outside of the movie sections.

It's when people start to argue what is and isn't canon that Ush begins smack-downs. For example, Nactous' 'Movies vs. EU' threads and his other 'EU is canon!' argument. Those are despised. You can't argue what is and isn't canon, only George Lucas and co. can argue that.

KMC maintains that rule so that people don't try to use 'Dark Empire' or 'Knights of the Old Republic' to settle their arguments. There are people who don't seem to understand the different between the movies and EU.

EU is canon when it doesn't contradict the movies though. If nothing goes against it, it stands. I don't care what you mods say on this(I care about other stuff you guys say.... a little 😄).

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
EU is canon when it doesn't contradict the movies though. If nothing goes against it, it stands. I don't care what you mods say on this(I care about other stuff you guys say.... a little 😄).

And that's exactly what Ush likes to smack-down. 🙄

Not canon unless Lucas says it is, he could trample all of EU if he wanted to.

Originally posted by Captain REX
And that's exactly what Ush likes to smack-down. 🙄

Not canon unless Lucas says it is, he could trample all of EU if he wanted to.

Amen.

I always thought that the EU was one level below the "G" canon. If it contradicts the films it becomes "S" canon and the only non-canon is the "N" canon.

The only sources in which marka ragnos appeared was in TOTJ, and was clearly called Marka ragnos, and he was called Marka in the light side ending of Jedi Knights: Jedi Acadamy.

Now, i thought this thread was about Naga Sadow?...