This is what I find funny about these threads...everyone is always at their best, and Supes is expected to be regular Supes in "Clark" gee golly mode...
Regular glads vs regular Supes...Supes wins.
Confident Glads vs Not holding back Supes... tougher, but Supes still wins.
Confident Glads vs Sundipped Supes ...Glads gets Slaughtered.
Confident Glads vs Supes Prime....Lets not even go there.
Confident Glads vs E2 Supes.... Glads gets Slaughtered.
Take your pick.
Originally posted by Juntai
It took Gladiator three punches to destroy a celestial sized object?
It takes Superman one.And you may say it's just a moon, but with varrying sizes, some moons being even larger than planets, some of Jupiters for instance are around the size of the Earth or even bigger...
Still, it's pretty obvious it doesn't matter how much rock is there, it could be another 3422487 miles wide and would still get smashed.
Lets not forget that this is Superman, what possible reason would he have to go around Destroying Planets anyway? It's obvious that the guy could...but why would he? This isn't DBZ.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindThis is what I've been saying, and attempting to get through to these people who apperently do not read Superman. Everyday Clark is in the same range as Gladiator at his mighest feats. I see the same Gladiator feats over and over, when we can show Superman a month or so ago doing a "split the moon" punch, without even going all out or being amped up or anything, whereas Gladiator doing these feats is like one back in the 60s... one in the 80s... when he was at his greatest moments in power. Every day Supes... all time Gladiator.. they just don't get it.
This is what I find funny about these threads...everyone is always at their best, and Supes is expected to be regular Supes in "Clark" gee golly mode...Regular glads vs regular Supes...Supes wins.
Confident Glads vs Not holding back Supes... tougher, but Supes still wins.
Confident Glads vs Sundipped Supes ...Glads gets Slaughtered.
Confident Glads vs Supes Prime....Lets not even go there.
Confident Glads vs E2 Supes.... Glads gets Slaughtered.Take your pick.
Originally posted by Juntai
Once again, you're totally trying to downplay Superman feats, first off, he didn't struggle pushing Warworld, he did it, at any point was he saying "I can't do this, its too heavy"? No. Because it was effortless. And you'll also notice that it was a POWERED UP with INFINITE ENERGY warworld PUSHING AGAINST HIM with were already before the powerup FASTER THAN LIGHTSPEED ENGINES.Superman has flown in and out of black holes, that's faster than light speed. Even beyond the times and pics shown. Superman was shown in the Black Adam, still wasn't even angry or going all out, "That punch would have split the moon in half." Or how about the pic when he's flying through a moon effortlessly? If I'm remembering correctly, it was one of Jupiter's moons, which are planet sized bodies. And he didnt' struggle with that either.
And no, Manchester isn't a lame telepath, at one time he dominated pretty much every DC Earth bad guy, and had them in metroplis fighting Superman, and he smashed all of them in a few panels, effortlessly. A great feat on both of their parts. Even Martian Manhunter had noted how particularly powerful Manchester is, as he was able to hide his mind and several others away from him.. and we all know MM is one of the top tier mental combatants.
And about Superman being faster than Wally, outthinking and manuevering and speeding him... it's not the first time it's happened. He's cought or stopped or countered or reacted faster than Wally on multitudes of occasions. Just read JLA titles, you'll see.
And what he was saying about Superman regularly topping a lot of Marvel's top strength feats... in the last 3 or 4 years alone he's pretty much trumped all these feats of Gladiator and many others, and these are just regular him.. in an average one shot issue.. then he tops it again next issue.
Thing is, only certain scans are being posted consistantly but nonetheless these are JUST the RECENT ONES. While you're posting Gladiator or whovers ALL TIME greatest moments. That's what you fail to realise. Superman is like that EVERY issue. If he lashed out, even full power Gladiator would quake with fear as it's quite obvious that happy go lucky everyday Superman is on par with his greatest moments.
Nice post! I think if Thor is able to give Glads a good whooping, Superman whould just do the same, only faster IMO. 🙂
Originally posted by olympian
"Once again, you're totally trying to downplay Superman feats, first off, he didn't struggle pushing Warworld, he did it, at any point was he saying "I can't do this, its too heavy"? No. Because it was effortless. And you'll also notice that it was a POWERED UP with INFINITE ENERGY warworld PUSHING AGAINST HIM with were already before the powerup FASTER THAN LIGHTSPEED ENGINES."Its not much as downplaying other than keeping things in check. Saying that on average he does things on the high level of what Glads and others do, its way of base.
When SUperman without being "amped" starts doing those things ala BRB and Gladiator, among a few others, then it starts not to be off base.
The struggling part comes from memory, wich granted i can be wrong. If you can post the page that would help.
"That punch would have split the moon in half"
"a" moon.
"And about Superman being faster than Wally, outthinking and manuevering and speeding him... it's not the first time it's happened. He's cought or stopped or countered or reacted faster than Wally on multitudes of occasions. Just read JLA titles, you'll see"
My question wasent if he can outmanover Wally. Hes close to his speed to do it.
Is if he actually with both at theyr max, was moving faster than Wally.
After all your post seemed to sugegst that with " he even noted how he was faster than Wally"
Thats the part that makes me say if it really happened, it was jobbing. Its pretty much known, that Wally either by running or reaction time -is- faster.
Or, Supes used his max and Wally didnt.
"And what he was saying about Superman regularly topping a lot of Marvel's top strength feats... in the last 3 or 4 years alone he's pretty much trumped all these feats of Gladiator and many others, and these are just regular him.. in an average one shot issue.. then he tops it again next issue. "
You will have to excuse me on this. But i wont change my argument on this one either. Gladiator busting a planet in pieces in 3 shots (wich Kal never did post crisis) isent even Marvels biggest feat/only that a high top tier guy has.
That Superman on average gets higher feats, than marvel - average- its a given.
High end feats on the other hand, he doesnt.
Olympian .... do i hear barrel scraping ?
Originally posted by Wynndar😆
just look at the title of this thread...how insecure can these superman fanboys be?
going by forum rules (no CIS , PIS)
Gladiator whould be punching Superman 100X speed of light , with Punches that can blow world.
Gladiator wins using his powers
Superman's punches couldnt even phase Blackrock in his own comic book...he got a big ice cube dropped on him by Eradicator and it took him some time to get out from under it...while Gladiator goes around the metagalaxy at hyperspeed, shatters planets with his punches, and all the while doesnt need any nonsensical enhancement like being "sundipped" (sounds like a term u'd hear on queer eye or something).
Originally posted by Juntai
This is what I've been saying, and attempting to get through to these people who apperently do not read Superman. Everyday Clark is in the same range as Gladiator at his mighest feats. I see the same Gladiator feats over and over, when we can show Superman a month or so ago doing a "split the moon" punch, without even going all out or being amped up or anything, whereas Gladiator doing these feats is like one back in the 60s... one in the 80s... when he was at his greatest moments in power. Every day Supes... all time Gladiator.. they just don't get it.
Read this thread through, and its hilarious!!
Someone said "Superman can take on the top tier of Marvel Heroes".
Wrong!! The thing is, Superman couldn't take over Marvel Earth on his own. Truth. Once he goes into space, he is dwarfed by the sheer presence of beings. I don't care how many powers he gets(really getting oldbtw), he isn't invincible. Glads would beat him if confident. One hit, and he sees supes stumble, and his confidence goes through the roof. End of battle. Supes is powerful, but in Marvel, fights don't come down to who can hit hardest. Other factors come into play.