Would they be stronger

Originally posted by Fishy
No, because the fear would still exist, accepting it won't change it. This isn't like accepting Teenage drinking, or that teenagers have sex. It would be like accepting murder. You won't be able to prevent or control it just because you make it legal or inform people about it.

Keyword might. Better safe than sorry.

Originally posted by Revan Souer
Teenage drink good, Jedi having a family bad 🤨 🤪
I dont understand you point, just because someone has a family and have attactment doesnt mean they cant control there feelings. Infact it might help the jedi from not turning. If he has feelings for someone other then himself it could keep him from making stupid choices

Somebody made a point about allowing things would make it better.

Allowing Teenage drinking heavily reduces the accidents caused by teenage drinking (proven fact)

Allow the Jedi to marry would not stop their attechment and would not stop them from falling to the dark side, in fact only more people would get attached and more people would fall to the Dark Side.

i know it would stop attachments but if they had them as i said previously it might give them a reason not to go to the darkside... Me i would have to turn couldnt handle never having sex

lol

Well, jedi are not meant to be like normal people. That's why they're jedi. They are guardians of the peace, not super humans who bask in human emotion.

Originally posted by Revan Souer
i know it would stop attachments but if they had them as i said previously it might give them a reason not to go to the darkside... Me i would have to turn couldnt handle never having sex

Its going to be so much easier to turn somebody when they have somebody they love. Just make them think they are going to lose that person, they are going to get angry scared, feel hatred... They are going to make mistakes and they are going to turn Dark because of that. Or are probably going to turn dark because of that.

Originally posted by Fishy
Its going to be so much easier to turn somebody when they have somebody they love. Just make them think they are going to lose that person, they are going to get angry scared, feel hatred... They are going to make mistakes and they are going to turn Dark because of that. Or are probably going to turn dark because of that.

thats what i tried to say when i first posted in this thread!!!!
but maybe in some cases it could have the oposite effect...

But then again it could work in the oppisit way, if turning to the dark side would course harm to the ones you love then maybe you wouldnt turn

The more I read this thread the more insane I get.... thumbsup

Originally posted by Revan Souer
But then again it could work in the oppisit way, if turning to the dark side would course harm to the ones you love then maybe you wouldnt turn

No becuase the dark side isn't something human its a mystic thing its either that or not that.

When you are scared of losing somebody you will turn to the Dark Side or turn more likely. Probably to protect them or something, once you have turned it consumes you it becomes the very essence of your live. The Dark Side is all you have, the one's you turned for don't matter as much anymore and when they don't follow you you will hate them even more. Give into the hatred once and you will give in forever.

Now it could help you turn back later on, but thats not really a good reason to let you love. You turn Dark because of that and then later on you might turn light again because of that. Its stupid to allow things like that. Allowing attachments in the Jedi world is nothing but foolish.

Originally posted by Nai Fohl
Did you watch ROTS, Ushgarak ? "Only Sith deal in absolutes!" 😉

He was attached to Luke, Leia, Sidious and Padme. Personal relations have a very strong influence in the SW saga and as I said before it's not always bad. Why do you think Luke stoped the attack on his father in ROTJ a second before killing him ? A rational thought like "Oh...I shouldn't kill Vader, that's not the way of the Jedi despite the fact that Yoda told me I must do that" ? No.

Do you really think that it was "reflecting on his life" enabled Vader to kill the Emperor ? He simply couldn't watch his son getting killed (because he DID love his child) and because of that he killed the Emperor.

From a moral point of view that attachment to his son was wrong but at least it did lead to the death of the Emperor and the destruction of the Sith. Vader killed the Emperor because of emotions (this WAS in fact a dark side action) but the result was overall "good".

See...THAT is the point. If you can not CONTROL your emotions and let go of the attachment you are doomed but that again is your personal decission and it's not necessesarily true that an attachment automatically leads to the dark side. Anakin for example is not attached to Padme...he is obsessed with her - so much that he can't accept the fact that she has to die like everyone has to die. He can't let go of the attachment. If somebody can...if he can accept the fact that people have to die and won't let his emotions overwhelm him than an attachment isn't automatically leading to the dark side.

See...If you can accept the fact that people have to die you don't have to fear their death any longer.

At the point where the attachment comes into the game it doesn't have an effect on a "Jedi". Bastila isn't a Jedi at this time since she has already joined the Dark Side. Same goes for Vader. Their attachments allowed them to be redeemed from the Dark Side. And here you should "think out of the box" as Lucas always says to the fans. If there are no absolutes ("Only Sith deal in absolutes."😉 then there is no way you can say that something is only "good" or "evil". From a moralist point of view you can but from that point of view there is noone that always acts moraly right in the movies.

PERFECT post. There is no arguing with this. 😎

Ushgarak, who appointed you as personal defender of everything that is canon? You are disturbingly like a Christian fanatic. I see you feel very strongly about SW but this certainly doesn't give you the right to spout off responses that are sometimes rife with veiled flames. Chill out, hmmm? This is all fiction, after all.

Originally posted by Darth_Emodas
PERFECT post. There is no arguing with this. 😎

Ushgarak, who appointed you as personal defender of everything that is canon? You are disturbingly like a Christian fanatic. I see you feel very strongly about SW but this certainly doesn't give you the right to spout off responses that are sometimes rife with veiled flames. Chill out, hmmm? This is all fiction, after all.

Absolutely correct! It amazes me everyday how much meaning people see in sci-fi(!) and how much speculation goes on on these forums about fiction, while it is all left for our own interpretation.
But I like to join sometimes because I have nothing to do..

It's still a topic you can't resolve. It's personal decission, and individual personality. PLus the movies and story are too far apart to keep up with themselves.

The games don't do the topic any justice.