Street Tourney: General Discussion Thread

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Originally posted by Scoobless
there aren't really any rules.... we're just making them up to suit ourselves as we go along

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Number of people: 16.

Number of picks: 3 Each (not at the same time though…spread out through 3 rounds).

Fight format: Amalgam format

Draft format: Each member will PM me their pick for round 1, then 2, etc. (I'll make threads for each). If it's already been picked, I will PM them back and tell them to pick again. I will post picks as they are Pm’d to me so that others can eliminate them from their list of potential picks, but will not say who has picked each person (so that full teams will not be known so one person can't pick based upon another's strategy). At this point, if there are any problems with other people's picks (you think they're too powerful, etc.) it can be discussed. You will know who you are fighting and when, but not your opponents picks until the fight begins (eliminating the need for pre-fight write-ups and making people debate on the fly).
Important: A link/bio must be provided for each character, just like the last tourney. I will not consider that character ‘picked’ until it is accompanied by a link that provides a credible bio.
Voting: You may not vote in your own match. Voting will take place in the threads, not in a poll. Each participant must vote in at least 3 other first-round matches besides their own. Failure to do this will result in a loss of a vote in their match (possibly in the second round if it’s too late to deduct from the current round). You should want to vote anyway, but this is just further incentive.

Mind/Body: One mind that has all the experiences of your 3 picks. However, only one body can be chosen, though specific powers can transfer sometimes (example: Spider-Man’s spider-sense would transfer to a different body, but his strength would not unless you chose his body)

Voting Eligibility Date: Must be a member as of July or before. Starting Aug. 1, ineligible to vote.

Limits: In general, the limit is "powerful street level" which includes up to Spider-Man and his villians. Carnage is a bit beyond them, so he is banned. But anything “below” Carnage is acceptable.
-Strength: Class 15 (Venom limit).
Speed: Enhanced Human (Spider-Man limit)
Durability: Below Luke Cage (i.e. Cage is banned, any below is ok) Black Panther is ok.
No magic (that includes anything…spells, items, etc.)
No telepathy or telekinesis (Psylocke is ok though, and non TK shields that don’t make the character ‘beyond Carnage’ are ok)
No phasing, illusions, invisibility, or flight
Energy Projection Limit: Upper limit Cyclops. Acceptable picks would include Gambit, Electro, Shocker, etc.

Characters come equipped with “standard equipment” (I'm not knowledgable enough to know what each character's standard equipment is, but Bats will at least have a few batarangs and his "latcher" and whatever other standard stuff he normally has, Cap will have his shield, Daredevil will have his cane-weapon thingy, Wolverine will have a couple fanboys to use as a human shield, etc.)

Specific Banned Members: Longshot, Luke Cage, Havoc, Carnage, Omega Red, T-1000 Terminator
Character Notes: Cyclops cannot take off his visor.

Other Notes: Characters do NOT have to be from comics. But you must still provide a credible link/bio for them and they must meet the criteria for the tournament. Also, characters will understand that they are in a death-match scenario. Thus, an argument of “Spider-Man never kills” is invalid.

Battles: Who will face whom in the first round will be chosen randomly. All battle environments will also be chosen randomly by me. All of them will be “Earth environments” and will take place at various times during the day. Thus, we won’t have any space battles, or battles in other dimensions, but there will still be some occasional unique scenarios, and possible advantages based upon the surroundings.

I retain the right to make final judgments at any time on matters, since otherwise it could devolve into chaos and arguing. But I will listen to any and all comments and try to make the best decisions I can based upon them.

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Yeah, we've had to change a lot, but it was hardly just "thrown together"

Originally posted by Dizzle
And so the bonus round gets twisted...

Me and Laminator are trading Leto II and Nightcrawler.

Prepare to die, kids. And for once, not by me...

Oh, ok...as long as Laminator is cool with it, I'll make the switch (he didn't say anything against it and I doubt Dizzle would make this up so I'll assume it's happening unless I hear otherwise).

Benedict and Leto? Ha! Interesting....

Originally posted by long pig

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The Shocto-signal never fails to amuse...

What? I never agreed to any...

Just kidding. We're trading. Us book guys have to stick together.

Ben Dreadcrawler is no more. Prepare yourselves for...

GODLIKE!

I vote that all restrictions should be taken off for the loser's round.

Anyone who has a character that has limits put on them, should have those limits lifted.

Everybody just go all out.

That's some serious ownage in the battle-skills department you got there now Laminator. Those two together could probably make someone like Batman look like a school-girl.

Vanth, Leto, and Benedict now. If nothing else, you get the award for most obscure combo ever.

And honestly Dizzle, a teleporter is never a bad thing...I can think of a lot of things I would want to do with Drizzt, Cyke and NCer...

And then there's Mauler, KVD (I forget his guy's name), and the also-formidable others (and JP's ever-present fanbase). I'm excited for the bonus round.

{Edit} ^^^ Good call LP. Some things (like Leto using "The Voice" to take everyone over) will still have to be banned. Not 100% on this yet (it might unbalance some stuff, but that might be fun) but it seems like a good idea. If anyone was "toned down" to meet a requirement or somesuch, it will be lifted provided I decide to do this. And rip that visor off with scorn if this happens Dizzle.

Any other thoughts on this? A few more people inputting (especially those who will be in the battle) would be nice before I make this an official ruling. If anyone's opposed to, say, people flying around (which would happen if I lifted the limits) or other similarly new skills I don't want to piss a bunch of people off.

Mauler will run wild on this thread!

I'm already going to be obscenely strong and fast. If you remove too many of the limits, I will utterly destroy the field. Careful.

Hah, yeah...let 'em fly, too.

Awesome.

So stormfront can use his chicks to make holograms and Blackbolt level screams? lol this will be awesome.

So how much do you guys figure 10 year-old Leto could lift before bonding with the Sandtrout. That's right, they cast older actors for the TV series. Leto II was 10 when he ascended to the throne. I'm thinking about double what a modern kid could, what with the milennia of eugenics and all. Does that sound about right?

If I was in the loser round....😈

SpeedFreek unleashed!

So I'm thinking Lil Leto probably weighed aroung 60-65 lbs. Average weight for an American 10 year old is ~75 lbs, but we've got an epidemic of obesity on our hands and Fremen are lean and wiry. We'll call him 65 lbs. Now Leto is much stronger than a modern prepubescent male, owing to thousands of years of selective breeding. I'm guessing he could lift 1.5x his body weight, so for discussion's sake call Lil Leto's strength 97.5lbs. before bonding with the sandtrout.

Now, GODLIKE will have Benedict's body before bonding with the sandtrout. A lame powergamer would say the sandtrout symbiosis was a 205x multiplier, but that's just silly. Living things don't work that way. Everything but geodesic domes get less strength efficient as they scale up. This is a job for logarithms!

To find GODLIKE's strength we go (log(Benedict'sStrength)/log(LilLeto'sStrenght))*SandtroutLeto'sStrength=GODLIKE'sStrength.

or (log(4,000lbs)/log(97.5lbs))*20,000lbs=36,220lbs =18 Tons.

Tack on Dreadstar's sword with it's far more efficient linear 10x multiplier, and GODLIKE is ready to pimpslap the Abomination!

So, how fast do you think he is?

Originally posted by Laminator_X
So I'm thinking Lil Leto probably weighed aroung 60-65 lbs. Average weight for an American 10 year old is ~75 lbs, but we've got an epidemic of obesity on our hands and Fremen are lean and wiry. We'll call him 65 lbs. Now Leto is much stronger than a modern prepubescent male, owing to thousands of years of selective breeding. I'm guessing he could lift 1.5x his body weight, so for discussion's sake call Lil Leto's strength 97.5lbs. before bonding with the sandtrout.

Now, GODLIKE will have Benedict's body before bonding with the sandtrout. A lame powergamer would say the sandtrout symbiosis was a 205x multiplier, but that's just silly. Living things don't work that way. Everything but geodesic domes get less strength efficient as they scale up. This is a job for logarithms!

To find GODLIKE's strength we go (log(Benedict'sStrength)/log(LilLeto'sStrenght))*SandtroutLeto'sStrength=GODLIKE'sStrength.

or (log(4,000lbs)/log(97.5lbs))*20,000lbs=36,220lbs =18 Tons.

Tack on Dreadstar's sword with it's far more efficient linear 10x multiplier, and GODLIKE is ready to pimpslap the Abomination!

So, how fast do you think he is?

Trading Leto was basically suicide... Teleporting's cool, but now my guy's probably even weaker than JP's. 😆 I gave him to Lam so as to have him beat the shit out of each and every person in this tourney. If it had been an initial amalgam, I'd say GODLIKE would end up winning... Even Shocktopus isn't quite this cool. Meh, 3rd'll have to do.

Though if I had known it was possibly gonna be a no restrictions thing, I probly wouldn't have traded... Mountian leveling blasts and mind control techniques. Allllll right. Oh, and a panther. Magic Panther.

As to speed, Leto's already demonstrated limits of 100mph+... On sand. GODLIKE is easily in the upper hundreds of miles per hour, if not more.

And damn, I even forgot to factor in the whole base strength difference. I was thinking 100 tons, but 180 is better. And if it is no holds barred... Run, Voice, repeat. Cut/blast off heads when necessary.

Oh, I can't wait.

Wow, that's some serious spite, Dizz. 🙂
I must say, when I saw that Leto II had been drafted my reaction was, "Holy cr@p!"

so the bonus round is the only one running next week then?

Few things...

1. Yeah, 1 hectic week for the bonus round, but it'll be the only battle next week. I might leave it up an extra day or two but I'll decide that later.

2. We pegged the version of Leto that's being used around 5 tons. And roughly bullet-proof skin. That's what you'll be working with. I'd assume you want Leto as your body now too, right?

3. I'm keeping the (individual) limits for the match. Throughout the tourney, meshing has been acceptable...so going beyond Class 15, or as fast as you want to argue, or anything else...is all acceptable. But the normal limits that we've been keeping otherwise are all intact. Flight is still a no, and anything else we've been banning.

...though I will admit, I really wanted to see Dizzle argue with Guenwyvar on his team (Drizzt's magical, 600lb. panther that he can always summon).

4. I'm not ready to hand the win to Laminator yet, even though he and Dizzle have been talking his guy up quite a bit. It still comes down to the debates sometimes...

I know this has nothing to do with anything that's been said recently, but I found something that could help with the magic/chi/TK thing. Ironically I found it on a site that had little to do with either:

A death using powers of the mind, or internal energies, variously known as "chi", "psychic energy" etc.
The effects are often similar to Magic (q.v.) but usually lack the trappings of incantations or spell components, and are marked by being explained as an internal focus of energy.

So, Grailnighter's chi blasts and shield should be allowed, but changing it's course or making energy spikes on his shield should not.

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
I know this has nothing to do with anything that's been said recently, but I found something that could help with the magic/chi/TK thing. Ironically I found it on a site that had little to do with either:

A death using powers of the mind, or internal energies, variously known as "chi", "psychic energy" etc.
The effects are often similar to Magic (q.v.) but usually lack the trappings of incantations or spell components, and are marked by being explained as an internal focus of energy.

So, Grailnighter's chi blasts and shield should be allowed, but changing it's course or making energy spikes on his shield should not.


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What site is that from? And how do you get from that, that changing his blasts direction and forming shapes out of his shields are TK or shouldn't be allowed? Digi, can I get a ruling on this?

Half the websites say magic, the other say bio-electricity. So, I'm not sure wtf Chi is.