Solid Snake Vs Spiderman

Originally posted by leonheartmm
sorry. spidey is class 10, and ofcourse that doesnt mean he can just punch with a force of a 10ton weight either, and dont u think grey fox punched a lot harder than spidey, and snake survived that, and lets not forget volgin's class100 punches, which could easily destroy military reinfirced concrete walls and punched right through the shagohod's body armour{which btw, was not even DENTED by an rpg6 with a heat warhead} well ok so snake did vomit once when hit by many many of volgin's punches, but these were at a whole different level than spidey's punches. and anyway bigg boss beat volgin, snake is big boss, only better at everythin.

Spidey is now, in fact, class 15 now. I know for a fact that he has gotten a strength upgrade.

Either way though, it might as well be Superman against Snake.

Snake dies from pretty much one hit.

Strenght upgrade ,speed upgrade, enhanced spider sense, insect telepathy even his wallcrawling abiltiy was enhanced (according to Spideys words in Human Torch/Spiderman issue 5)

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Spidey is now, in fact, class 15 now. I know for a fact that he has gotten a strength upgrade.

Either way though, it might as well be Superman against Snake.

Snake dies from pretty much one hit.

then why didnt he die from grey fox's hits, or from volgin's hits?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
then why didnt he die from grey fox's hits, or from volgin's hits?

Cuz if he did, you'd still be at your PS2 still trying to beat them and you wouldn't be here at all. Because you'd have no chance of winning if you died from one shot in the video game. That's why. The developers clearly do have some sympathy for their gamers.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Cuz if he did, you'd still be at your PS2 still trying to beat them and you wouldn't be here at all. Because you'd have no chance of winning if you died from one shot in the video game. That's why. The developers clearly do have some sympathy for their gamers.

no no metal manx, im not just talkin about the fights in real time, im talkin about the factual story in the form of cutscenes{which can not be thought of as biased or unreal} if u remember volgin tortured granin and the scientist to death in just 3 punches, {yes he was punching with most of his strength} but when he strated on snake he said, UR A TOUGH ONE MY FRIEND, A LESSER MAN WOULD BE DEAD BY NOW, he punched snake many many times{it also happened when snake tried to rescue sokolov dressed as raikov, and DONT FORGET that volgin also shocked snake many times and for many seconds with a charge of TEN MILLION VOLTS, you could literally see snakes skeleton visible from beneath his skin cause of the flashes, and that session just left snake with 3 major fractures and a lot of cuts{which he took care of himself i might add}, now think about that, and also in twin snakes, snake does get hit by frank yeager. and not just his punches, kicks etc, but also the shockwave, electric aura that surrounds his body when he is having those siezures and strokes.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
no no metal manx, im not just talkin about the fights in real time, im talkin about the factual story in the form of cutscenes{which can not be thought of as biased or unreal} if u remember volgin tortured granin and the scientist to death in just 3 punches, {yes he was punching with most of his strength} but when he strated on snake he said, UR A TOUGH ONE MY FRIEND, A LESSER MAN WOULD BE DEAD BY NOW, he punched snake many many times{it also happened when snake tried to rescue sokolov dressed as raikov, and DONT FORGET that volgin also shocked snake many times and for many seconds with a charge of TEN MILLION VOLTS, you could literally see snakes skeleton visible from beneath his skin cause of the flashes, and that session just left snake with 3 major fractures and a lot of cuts{which he took care of himself i might add}, now think about that, and also in twin snakes, snake does get hit by frank yeager. and not just his punches, kicks etc, but also the shockwave, electric aura that surrounds his body when he is having those siezures and strokes.

That actually helps my argument even more.

If these took place in cutscenes, then of course they're (the developers) aren't going to kill you off when you can do nothing about it.

Think about that for a moment. Aside from the fact that he did survive these things, would you be happy if you were killed when you had no control over it? That would be it. You would just have to sit there and cry as the game kills you and you can't do a thing about it.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
That actually helps my argument even more.

If these took place in cutscenes, then of course they're (the developers) aren't going to kill you off when you can do nothing about it.

Think about that for a moment. Aside from the fact that he did survive these things, would you be happy if you were killed when you had no control over it? That would be it. You would just have to sit there and cry as the game kills you and you can't do a thing about it.

Do you know how dumb that sounds. Oh the game don't want you to die, well because they are telling the story and he doesnt die in the story so why would they kill you if they telling a story about him and he doesnt die.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Do you know how dumb that sounds. Oh the game don't want you to die, well because they are telling the story and he doesnt die in the story so why would they kill you if they telling a story about him and he doesnt die.

I know it sounded dumb. It's just exceedinly difficult to sophisticatedly turn your dumb arguments into intelligent ones. So I just chose to answer you in a way that you might understand.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
That actually helps my argument even more.

If these took place in cutscenes, then of course they're (the developers) aren't going to kill you off when you can do nothing about it.

Think about that for a moment. Aside from the fact that he did survive these things, would you be happy if you were killed when you had no control over it? That would be it. You would just have to sit there and cry as the game kills you and you can't do a thing about it.

oh RIGHT and that doesnt hold at al for when spidey is goin up agianst the green goblin, sandman or carnage, all foes that can more than easily kill him with ur logic, or how about falling from the top of the chrysler building when he couldnt control his webswinging? ur logic is flawed.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
That actually helps my argument even more.

If these took place in cutscenes, then of course they're (the developers) aren't going to kill you off when you can do nothing about it.

Think about that for a moment. Aside from the fact that he did survive these things, would you be happy if you were killed when you had no control over it? That would be it. You would just have to sit there and cry as the game kills you and you can't do a thing about it.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
oh RIGHT and that doesnt hold at al for when spidey is goin up agianst the green goblin, sandman or carnage, all foes that can more than easily kill him with ur logic, or how about falling from the top of the chrysler building when he couldnt control his webswinging? ur logic is flawed.

......Possibly because he has super powers and super enginuitiveness?

Did we forget about these?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
......Possibly because he has super powers and super enginuitiveness?

Did we forget about these?

super powers: not even close to that of those adversaries{more outclassed than snake is vs spidey},

inginuitiveness: snake has more in his left hand than spidey does in his entire body.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
......Possibly because he has super powers and super enginuitiveness?

Did we forget about these?

Originally posted by King KAM
Technically he is like Captain America, but better(training, experience, genteically), think of Cap as Reed and Sue, think of SS and Franklin Richards.

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So now Snake has reality warping powers? Is that what you're saying?

I'm getting tired of hearing this never ending list of Snake's powers/abilities.

And the way Spidey thinks on his feet is on a whole 'nother level compared to Snake.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
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So now Snake has reality warping powers? Is that what you're saying?

I'm getting tired of hearing this never ending list of Snake's powers/abilities.

And the way Spidey thinks on his feet is on a whole 'nother level compared to Snake.

he was just comparin man.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
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So now Snake has reality warping powers? Is that what you're saying?

I'm getting tired of hearing this never ending list of Snake's powers/abilities.

And the way Spidey thinks on his feet is on a whole 'nother level compared to Snake.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
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So now Snake has reality warping powers? Is that what you're saying?

I'm getting tired of hearing this never ending list of Snake's powers/abilities.

And the way Spidey thinks on his feet is on a whole 'nother level compared to Snake.

Yes, Spiderman prime at his best...

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
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I think the problem is that, they don't play the games, and beat it, they just see a human on the cover.

What is snake, a peak human? Thats about it...

Originally posted by King KAM
me too, oh yeah if u want to use ALL of snakes gadgets, than he can turn invisible, he has a 100 cloak, and his suit makes no noise so you cant hear him either.

Do ANY of you know who or what spiderman is and can do?

Do you know what a spidersense is, I thought now, so sit down.

there shouldn't be a use of ALL of his gadgets, because he can't carry them all at once, and spiderman gets nothing, but its not like snake can use but more than one item at the same time anyway.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Even with Spidersense, he would have a hard time with that cloak.

Unless snake is venom and can neutrulize that out, I think snake is ****ed.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Oh please.
Who do you think Snake is ? the shocker, or the Kingpin ?

Snake is a human with a few guns thats IT. There are no plot devices in comics.

Look below to learn what that is guy...

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
DD,Punisher,Wolverine, all tagged Spiderman, and DD and Punisher ripped him good multiple times, and SS is above them.

A plot device is a person or an object introduced to a story to affect or advance the plot. In the hands of a skilled writer, the reader or viewer will not notice that the device is a construction of the author—it will seem to follow naturally from the setting or characters in the story. A poorly-written story, on the other hand, may have such awkward or contrived plot devices that the reader has serious trouble maintaining suspension of disbelief; indeed, the devices may even leave plot

In a comic debate we don't worry about intangibles, we use facts.

Spiderman is faster, stronger, and smarter, with more agility, and danger sense, than the above listed, answer:yes

Spiderman would logically beat ALL of those guys, because here we don't worry about upsetting fanbases.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
ok clearer scenario, with his physical abilities theres no way snake can beat spidey, BUT WHO GIVES A **** ABOUT PHYSICAL ABILITIES, snakes battle record is far beyond the physical abilities of any human, if he could punk ninja, he can punk spidey{call it the HERO factor or whatever}

Please tell me I'm wrong...

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Spidey punked ninjas too,m sure but not no Cyber Ninjas.

Spidey still can't punk the Kingpin, and dare devil and punisher punked, Spidey before, and what DD is a blind man ?

Did you know that spiderman beat thor, firelord, hulk, and titania?

Since you don't want to include plot devices...

Whats a plot device?

A plot device is a person or an object introduced to a story to affect or advance the plot. In the hands of a skilled writer, the reader or viewer will not notice that the device is a construction of the author—it will seem to follow naturally from the setting or characters in the story. A poorly-written story, on the other hand, may have such awkward or contrived plot devices that the reader has serious trouble maintaining suspension of disbelief; indeed, the devices may even leave plot

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
No getting beat by blind people(dare Devil) and a fat man(kingpin), is more Spideys speed.

Spiderman has a musculstature and enhanced skeleton that allows him to lift 30000 lbs, and he has speed 15x faster than a human, agility 15x faster than a human, reflexes 20x faster than a human, and a danger sense.

He could kill those two in one hit, can you prove me wrong?

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Punisher, been shot Spidey with a tranq and shoved his ass, in the back of his truck. I am sure Snake has a Tranq.

Secret, to advance the plot...

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Snake Will beat the blind man DD, and the Fat man Kingpin. When DD and Kingpin beat a Cyber Ninja, then we will talk.

Spiderman handed it to a brand new and improved venom when beserk, and spiderman holds back...

Snake gets caught out of stealth,(why is he sneaking if he's so badass?), and gets shot a few times, and dies, whoop de doo.

Play the spiderman game, its pretty accurate save strength, he can do MUCH more beyond snakes dreams.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Don't insult Snake.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Did you know how Spidet one ?

I hope you don't think Spidey could beat Toxin,Vnom,Carnage,Sandman, upgraded Ock one on one, without tehre particular Kriptonite ?

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Snake whips out his eraser, and thats the end of Spidey. Besides, Spidey can't make his lide bar go down, and Snake has rations.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Snake 6/10.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Both characters have beaten characters far stronger than them. So that won't factor too much in this fight.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Spider Sense will be fairly useless against someone who beat Psycho Mantis (an opponent who can read all your moves)

NO it won't, you need to understand what precog is, bullets are fairly useless against someone who is a consistent blur, and can jump a parking lot.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Although Snake is enhanced human, and we are never told what his true power level is..he was strong enough to beat a class 100 cyber ninja in h2h combat. I'd rate that ninja a bit higher than Spidey in overall stats.

He used a plot device, and a plot device, and a plot device..

Whats a plot device?

A plot device is a person or an object introduced to a story to affect or advance the plot. In the hands of a skilled writer, the reader or viewer will not notice that the device is a construction of the author—it will seem to follow naturally from the setting or characters in the story. A poorly-written story, on the other hand, may have such awkward or contrived plot devices that the reader has serious trouble maintaining suspension of disbelief; indeed, the devices may even leave plot

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
HOWEVER...Spidey does still have the strength advantage and the speed advantage. Depending on surroundings and the conditions of the fight..it's pretty evened out.

Why doesn't this matter when spiderman fights anyone?

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
I would kinda agree With avalon, Im leaning towards spiderman, but they have both defeated foes stronger than them,

A plot device is a person or an object introduced to a story to affect or advance the plot. In the hands of a skilled writer, the reader or viewer will not notice that the device is a construction of the author—it will seem to follow naturally from the setting or characters in the story. A poorly-written story, on the other hand, may have such awkward or contrived plot devices that the reader has serious trouble maintaining suspension of disbelief; indeed, the devices may even leave plot

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
and i duno how spidey would stack up against metal gears (similar to the ones snake fought in MGS2 SOL)

Ock?

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
I bet snakes h2h is a little better than spidermans, but spideys punches would hurt snake a bit

not done yet....

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Punisher,Shocker,Kingpin,Dare Devil......smacked Spidey around, and half of them are no where near human peak.........

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
So Spidey could dodge machine guns, up close, but gets caught by the Kingpin,Shocker, Punisher,and dare devil.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Metal Gear > Sentinals.

Snake is geniticly enhance so above peak human, everything including speed and reflexes. He dodged alot in that helicopter fight with liquid that no human can do. Cyber ninja is damn quick too. Craven smacked spidey around with a jungle net...

Do we even know what a plot device is?