Demonic Possession, A Realy Possibility?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Of course you agree with him, you dislike me. Despite the fact that he's a liar and I can actually prove it. Since when did that mean anything to people here though?

Oh please what? You know for a fact I've not insulted you and so do the mods who are actually impartial here. You got pissy at the fact that ghost existance isn't provable. That aint my fault.

-AC

I never said I disliked you. I dont even know you that well. What I dislike is your behavior. Everything and everyone is wrong, always wrong...secondly Ghost can be proved. I gave you links and pics and so did BlackCat. Her pics were better then mine but still it was there for you to view. Its your choice whether to believe it or not, but you dont have the right just to deny what I give you. I show you a pic and your like oh thats not it, you cant prove it. to you I cant prove it, because you deny what I give you........and yes, you did insult me a few times.

Originally posted by Raven Guardia
Ghost can be proved. I gave you links and pics and so did BlackCat. Her pics were better then mine but still it was there for you to view. Its your choice whether to believe it or not, but you dont have the right just to deny what I give you. I show you a pic and your like oh thats not it, you cant prove it. to you I cant prove it, because you deny what I give you........and yes, you did insult me a few times.

I never insulted you, lets stop this.

Ghosts cannot factually be proven to exist. Why? Because if they could be, they would be already. They aren't because they can't be. You cannot prove spirits exist for a fact to me or anyone else. You can perhaps convince a person to believe what you do, you cannot prove that they factually exist. To ANYONE.

What are you not getting? I've explained this to you and you have agreed that no human can prove it to another. You're continuing for the sake of it. Then again, you do "like to argue".

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I never insulted you, lets stop this.

Ghosts cannot factually be proven to exist. Why? Because if they could be, they would be already. They aren't because they can't be. You cannot prove spirits exist for a fact to me or anyone else. You can perhaps convince a person to believe what you do, you cannot prove that they factually exist. To ANYONE.

What are you not getting? I've explained this to you and you have agreed that no human can prove it to another. You're continuing for the sake of it. Then again, you do "like to argue".

-AC

omg, you insult with out even knowing it. You talk down to me calling me a little girl,tell me I am missing part of brain now your mocking me.

They can be proved, many people have caught evidence on tape,Audio,camera etc...its just of course you will say it cant be proved because in YOUR opinion it cant. My statement about the proof was made in relation to the fact some people wont believe it no matter how many ways shapes or form you show it to them.

Originally posted by Raven Guardia
omg, you insult with out even knowing it. You talk down to me calling me a little girl,tell me I am missing part of brain now your mocking me.

Aka "Lets see if I can convince someone that he's insulting me."

Originally posted by Raven Guardia
They can be proved, many people have caught evidence on tape,Audio,camera etc...its just of course you will say it cant be proved because in YOUR opinion it cant. My statement about the proof was made in relation to the fact some people wont believe it no matter how many ways shapes or form you show it to them.

People have caught Bigfoot on tape, the Loch Ness monster, it doesn't mean they factually exist. Same with ghosts.

Regardless of what you think, the existance of ghosts cannot be factually proven. Not in my opinion, but because they haven't been proven to be real. I respect that you believe this strongly, but all you are providing is weathered evidence to support your belief. Not factual proof/evidence. Sorry.

-AC

Hi, I'm back.....Just wanted to throw in that there are different frequencies that can be detected in which one can be more aware of what others cannot see..., though don't feel they are demonic...

OK..going now....

What I want to know is "Who you gonna call?"

If I had an experience that resulted in me firmly believing ghosts were real, I still couldn't prove it to someone else.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Aka "Lets see if I can convince someone that he's insulting me."

well you were 😬....perhaps you don't understand the term insult.

Insult - to speak or to treat in a callous or contemptuous way., to behave arrogantly, an offensive action or remark.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Not in my opinion

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
What I want to know is "Who you gonna call?"

Originally posted by Raven Guardia
well you were 😬....perhaps you don't understand the term insult.

Insult - to speak or to treat in a callous or contemptuous way., to behave arrogantly, an offensive action or remark.

I've said nothing offensive, you've taken inoffensive things and been insulted by them. That's not me making offensive actions or remarks. As for talking down to you, I've never done that. I called you sweetie, if that's all the insulting you claim I've done, then hahaha. Let's not discuss who understands terms being that I've had to show you what fact means about 9 times.

Originally posted by Raven Guardia
There we go.

There you go what? It's all opinion regarding ghosts. None of it is provable or fact. You can't prove they do exist, I can't prove they don't, nor do I want to.

What are you getting at?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Ghosts cannot factually be proven to exist. Why? Because if they could be, they would be already.

-AC

Well, you're going on the assumption that everyone believes every single fact that they come accross. But they don't. There are people out there who believe that THE HOLOCAUST didn't happen. There are piles of evidence to show that it did, factual evidence, and yet if you showed them, they still would not believe. People are sometimes stubborn and willfully ignorant, and not always both at the same time. This is, indeed, a fact.

As to whether or not you were insulting Raven, well you were. You were patronizing her and provoking her every single step of the way. And even after she herself admitted that she sometimes overreacts to things like this, you got pompous and started provoking her even more. You cannot get somebody to admit something if they don't want to. This is also a fact. Get used to it.

This all comes down to a matter of perspective, and so nobody will win. Even my beliefs differ (in some big ways) from Ravens, but I realise that, and I still try to get along with her. You two are thinking in two very different ways, and you have to realise at some point that you may never agree upon a single thing. That is another fact, AC, one that you would do well to remember. People sometimes just don't agree. That should be the end of it.

I'm sure the OP doesn't appreciate her thread being clogged by an extremely long round of the One-Up Game, so lets just kill this thing where it lay, if not for anything else, then out of respect for the OP. It's going nowhere, and fast.

That's all pretty but people who deny fact are just silly.

If I tell you I'm English, you can sit there and say "No you're not." It's not an opinion, it's a fact. But if you wanted to be silly about it, you could just say I'm not for the sake of kicking off a stupidity war, which Raven did because she admitted she likes to argue. Not debate (because it's not a debate as to whether ghosts are provable or not), argue.

Ghosts not being provably real is an actual fact and I'm sorry if you actually feel otherwise. Your continual denial of it not being provable not withstanding, it is.

-AC

Something can be proven and excuses be made, which you have done in spades.

"Dust"
"That doesn't prove anything"
"Bad lighting"
"My mother"

The list go's on. You convince yourself what you saw, now wether it is you or us lieing to ourselves is for us to find out in the next (if there infact is) life.. Untill then you are in no position to tell me, Raven, or anybody else we are wrong. Moreso then us are you, as we routinely do things that prove the exsistance of supernatural phenoma. Where as you just sit your ass down and make cliams..

Well the fact that those pictures look just like completely normal photographs is not my problem.

If I saw something that looked reasonably out of the ordinary I'd say, "Well hang on. That looks odd." But those photos looked like normal pics, and no amount of "Look, you can clearly see the orbs" is gonna convince me. With photoshop skills today, who knows what's real? It's harder to prove the existance of ghosts as time goes on.

I've seen some better stuff on Lana's art site than some of those websites.

You do routine things to prove the existance of paranormal phenomena, as do millions, it hasn't been successful yet. Nor have you. That suggests it's not provable.

When I say you are wrong, I don't mean it in the sense of "You're wrong for believing in ghosts." I've explained this to you. I find it very interesting myself. My only problem was that you're all claiming that you can prove the ghosts exist, you cannot.

-AC

I admit I can't prove it, in some ways I'm not allowed too. I would rather you believe your lie. It makes things more convient for me and The Dark Lord..

The greatest trick of the devil was convincing people he didn't exsist..

Let's not ignore the fact that I'm not saying ghosts don't exist. Let's just retain that info in our cranial chambers.

-AC

Fine, I'm too tired to backtrack what you said anyway, I'll leave that to somebody else.

I wonder where Raven is anyway. YOU SCARED HER OFF YOU ASS! 😛

lol, I hope she comes back soon. I'd tell you what we say over PM, buuut, you probably wouldn't believe me. 😉

Ghosts aside, I can't believe that AC is in another "I didn't insult you"
"yes you did insult me"
" no I didn't insult you, you just took what I said and were offended by it so it is not so much my comment that was an insult as it is your problem for being too damn sensitive and to take offence at what I say and how I say it"

I'm sure you meant only the most polit intentions when you told her "So calm yourself down little girl."

That debate never gets tired, even after the 50 or so times I've either seen it or participated in it.

The fact that you and PVS choose to participate in or initiate many debates involving my posts suggests a lot.

I said "Calm yourself down little girl." What? I didn't say "Oh shut the f*ck up you idiot." Stop being so over sensitive.

-AC

ok, so let me get this straight.

if you say "stfu idiot" that is an insult.

but if you simply call someone an "idiot", it isnt...

so basically the definition of "insult" changes with your every passing mood....ok i think i get it now 🙄

(damn right, i will never let you forget that one)😂

and I'M the hipocrite....thats rich