Grey Fox is so fast you can't see his arms moving when deflecting bullets, man he's not even trying hard to. Spidey has no chance in hell to catch Fox. If he wants to he can run so fast that nobody can see him and kill everything near him. And how the hell is Spidey gonna see him when he is invicible?
Originally posted by kamikzSpiderman is faster than fox.
Grey Fox is so fast you can't see his arms moving when deflecting bullets, man he's not even trying hard to. Spidey has no chance in hell to catch Fox. If he wants to he can run so fast that nobody can see him and kill everything near him. And how the hell is Spidey gonna see him when he is invicible?
Spiderman has precognition, invisibility won't help him.
For the last time, bullets arent' webbing, he can't parry all of the webbing, its like a flamethrower some of it has to get on him. All this talk of GF makes me laugh since snake beat him. Anyways its a good match.
Plot devices aside.
Spiderman is:
30000 lifting strength, making him stronger.
Has organic webbing.
Communicates with insects.
Has an extra 5x faster reflexes since his upgrade, for a total of 20x.
IS 15x faster than a human.
15x more agile
Has precognitive senses.
Has 120,000 lb per meter tensile strength webbing.
He's no pushover.
Well I've never seen Spidey hit someone faster than the eye can see, he can't move that fast either. And his web aint some homing missiles, Fox is to freaken fast. And Snake never beated him, never. They just fought unarmed until his exoskeleton almost got the better of him and he escaped cause he didn't want to kill him. Before he left he destroyed the whole room in seconds and you couldent see where he was going. Fox is as fast or faster than Spiderman. And his swordplay is good enough to hit Spidey too.
Originally posted by kamikz
Well I've never seen Spidey hit someone faster than the eye can see, he can't move that fast either.
Quicksilver?
You may want to read more spiderman, he got upgraded.
Anyways I like to stay away from feat wars, and use facts.
Spiderman has what it takes to down him, it will be a good match but he can do it.
I've shown you what he's capable of, there's no reason he can't.
Originally posted by kamikz
And his web aint some homing missiles, Fox is to freaken fast.
Spiderman makes the environment in slow motion too.
And again, they aren't homing missles, because they don't spread, fox isn't parrying that entire webbing that can come out fast and effectively.
Spiderman is the most agile character in marvel, and is the premier dodger, he can go on walls, and jump 50 feet high.
He can aviod fox as long as he needs to.
Originally posted by kamikz
And Snake never beated him, never. They just fought unarmed until his exoskeleton almost got the better of him and he escaped cause he didn't want to kill him.
No he didn't it was a plot device, I use them in feat wars, to take the ace out of peoples sleeves.
How could fox beat spiderman.
Originally posted by kamikz
Before he left he destroyed the whole room in seconds and you couldent see where he was going.
Still advanced the story, a plot device.
Originally posted by kamikz
Fox is as fast or faster than Spiderman.
Spiderman is MUCH faster, with much better reflexes and precog, he doesn't need to see fox.
Originally posted by kamikz
And his swordplay is good enough to hit Spidey too.
Spiderman can web foxs sword up, at a distance.
A close match.
i am sorry cordera, but i will have to go with grey fox.Spider man can see things in slow motion just like fox,but grey fox can see bullets perfectly and even cut all of the bullets that a machine gun fire at him.His strengh is above 150 tons since he stopped the metal gear from crushing snake.And also his stealthy camouflage will make things more difficult to spiderman if he fight him moving on high speed
Originally posted by Hoshi
i am sorry cordera, but i will have to go with grey fox.Spider man can see things in slow motion just like fox,but grey fox can see bullets perfectly and even cut all of the bullets that a machine gun fire at him.His strengh is above 150 tons since he stopped the metal gear from crushing snake.And also his stealthy camouflage will make things more difficult to spiderman if he fight him moving on high speed
He isn't at that listed lifting strength thats more or less a plot device.
Camoflauge doesn't matter, spiderman has precog.
Spiderman has dodged mulitple SMG's at him, and his webbing isn't a bullet, and Cyber can't cut it all to be honest.
still a close fight though.
in metal gear the twin snakes grey fox really did that.You cant hit him even if you fire all of your famas bullets ,and you cant even hurt him even if you hit him with a nikita.In the cgs grey fox appeared cutting the bullets so fast that his arms became invisible, and grey fox stopped the metal gear stom directly , metal gears foot must have at least 150-200 tons.
Originally posted by Hoshi
in metal gear the twin snakes grey fox really did that.You cant hit him even if you fire all of your famas bullets ,and you cant even hurt him even if you hit him with a nikita.In the cgs grey fox appeared cutting the bullets so fast that his arms became invisible, and grey fox stopped the metal gear stom directly , metal gears foot must have at least 150-200 tons.
Concussive force still affects the suit, but spiderman needs not get close.
I know he lifted the gear, but he isn't stronger than peter.
And again, webbing isn't a bullet, think of a flamethrower.
He can't "parry" all of it, some has to get on him, and when it does...
but grey foxs katanas is not a normal one, it is a vibration one, the vibrations are so fast that they can cut steel as it is ice cream, and also he has that huge cannon on his arm.And although spider man has the spider sense , the stealthy camouflage will still slow down his reactions a litle, because he will have only 5 senses besides the six he has.And i know concussive force affects the suit, but spiderman will have to broke his hand if he wants to destroy the grey fox entire suits that includes his bones of steel
Originally posted by Hoshi
but grey foxs katanas is not a normal one, it is a vibration one, the vibrations are so fast that they can cut steel as it is ice cream
His webbing has a tensile strength of 120,000 lbs per meter, he aint parrying all of it at the same time, it spreads, see what I mean?
Its like fire, some of it HAS to get on him.
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Originally posted by Hoshi
and also he has that huge cannon on his arm.A
Which can be dodged quite easily, note that spiderman has the walls to use, and can throw cars etc.
Also again note that he can keep his distance, and leap 5 stories high.
Originally posted by Hoshi
nd although spider man has the spider sense , the stealthy camouflage will still slow down his reactions a litle
Not really, spiderman fights venom, and it negates his spidersense.
Keep in mind that spiderman senses the attack BEFORE it happens, so invisiblity is useless.
Spiderman.
30000 lifting strenght.
20x reflexes, 15x speed, and agility, webbing, precog, adhesivness, equilibrium, and insect communication lol.
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Originally posted by Hoshi
because he will have only 5 senses besides the six he has.
He won't need his eyes, he can do this blindfolded.
Originally posted by Hoshi
And i know concussive force affects the suit, but spiderman will have to broke his hand if he wants to destroy the grey fox entire suits that includes his bones of steel
Nah, spiderman has leveled buildings with his head, broke boulders, etc.
Spiderman also holds back, he has an extra strong musculstature and skeleton structure to support his lifting strength.
A close match.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Quicksilver?
Don't forget Speed Demon.
Or Scorpion.
Or The Lizard.
Or all 4 of Doc Ock's tentacles.
Or Green Goblin.
All of these are either as fast or faster than Spiderman.
Yet he hits them all the team. And of course beats them.
But yes, Quicksilver is a great example of Spiderman hitting someone that the eye couldn't see.
I dare any one of you to say that GF is anywhere NEAR the same speed as QS.
Originally posted by jinzin
he lifted something heavier than what spiderman can lift but he's not stronger than spiderman? 🤨
That whole Metal Gear didn't look anything over 10 tons to me.
I'm not even saying that just to argue with you, but from my perspective, that whole Metal Gear doesn't look over 10 tons to me. And he just stopped it's foot.
Spiderman has shown much more impressive strength feats.
Such as leveling a building. GF couldn't do that on his best day if he wanted to.
Close match. Spiderman 6.5/10.
Absolutely hilarious. Spider man beating Grey Fox? You all do know that the Punisher can kill Spiderman, and he's fodder when it comes to Grey Fox? You can argue web semantics all day long, but Spider Man is -very- mortal and even his spider sense can be used against him.
And Metal Gear is easily ten tons. Hell, a car is over two tons.
I'll agree with you on the weight... while I think it weighs more than ten tons.. most heavy military machinery of that size does...it certainly doesn't look like anything at or over 100 tons... I was just asking a question concerning cordera's logic..or lack therof..... I'm not sure how that statment made sense to the guy... 🙁
Originally posted by jinzin
I'll agree with you on the weight... while I think it weighs more than ten tons.. most heavy military machinery of that size does...it certainly doesn't look like anything at or over 100 tons... I was just asking a question concerning cordera's logic..or lack therof..... I'm not sure how that statment made sense to the guy... 🙁
If anything, I'd say it's...I dunno...12-13 or so tons. It's heavy, yea. But not anything past 15 I think. Which still puts Spidey ahead in terms of strength.