Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yes, apparently or people wouldn't be enjoying them, its not like I'm making it up, and just because you don't like it, doesn't make it less true.
Look, stop dodging my questions and posts with essay long posts.
Why do DVDs (unrelated) and CDs (unrelated) make PS2 a better games console? (related). I have no vendetta against Playstation, I just don't see why Sony fans suck it off due to features that have nothing to do with games in a VIDEO GAMES FORUM.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Craziness, if you are going to attack a persons post, at least use fact.Xbox was the most powerful and had the best graphics engine, I thought this was common knowledge.
No Xbox game I've ever played has ever had graphical capability of the Cube. It still has the jagged edges, still lacks the smoothness. I've never seen that in a Cube game.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
This was about exclaiming what is the best in the idea for a new item, and turned into your "Nintendo rocks, playstation sucks!!" argument, which has basically gone off of your own opinion rather than any fact I'm aware of...
If you stopped trying to shove my posts out the way by writing war and peace vol 3, and actually read what I'm saying, we wouldn't be having this misunderstanding.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Who said I was "more" of a gamer? I myself don't care about all this "hype" and suchIrrelevant to YOU, they are there, you don't like it too bad.
Its just part of what was used to influence people into buying systems.
We should go off of fact, or a biased, subjective opinion?
Fact. So fact is, DVDs aren't games, we're discussing games. CDs aren't games, we're discussing games. Games are games, so lets discuss games.
You are continually claiming to not be involved in the hype but you cite other irrelevant (not about games, nothing to do with the games) features as reasons why it's a better GAMES console. Is it a better multi purpose console? Yes. But we're not discussing multi-purpose. We're discussing who make and produce the better games.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Gamecube had a good controller for many games, but playstation had a parallel design that was simialar to the snes.
Hahaha, exactly. Sony's "great" design came from a 16 (or so) bit Nintendo console. Nintendo have evolved about 4 times since then.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
For most, that design was more applicable to more games, AND had MUCH better control, and ease to maneuver.The cstick and everything, made shooting and fighting games more difficult, because of the lack of symmetry.
You rarely have to use the C-stick. Point being that the Sony controller is fine, sure. I can use it. Comfortable, easy, functional. Nothing new, nothing I had to enjoy getting used to. Cube was.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I recommend the logitech, more expensive, but has quality over the wavebird, is heavier, and fits to the hand, can play rooms away.
Why does it matter that you can play rooms away? See what I mean. You're impressed by features. Me? I like to sit in the same room as my console and play, or sit with my friends and play.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Size goes to the new playstation (smaller version)Reliability/durability goes to nintendo.
..............So you're debating what? Isn't your above comment making things a bit obvious?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Gamecube was cheapest because it was losing the game war, sales affect price and quality, see where this is shaping up.
Xbox was a flop. Plain and simple. That console, like or hate, was a failure. PS2 was extremely successful because it had billions of games and was the "first" next gen console.
Gamecube ended up being better than Xbox. PS2 doesn't take as much effort as the Cube because it's got it's finger in the multi console pie. It's easier to like. Like it's easier to go in McDonalds and buy a crappy burger and eat it than it is to pay to go into a restaurant and eat an excellent meal, and acquire it as a taste.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Awesome launch games, always does. But the quality tends to go down, which turns people off.
I don't think the quality went down at all. But that's me.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm tired of coolness arguments, this is not what a debate it about, treating your opinion as fact.
And I'm tired of "My PS2 can do this". If you had bothered to read my post you'd know I was discussing solely what was the better games console. In a games forum.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm chatting crap, NO, you are wrong on your facts.Its called the SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM!!!
Gamecube is a gamecube, xbox is an xbox, get with the program, I already said gamecube was about games, why do the other systems have to be about gamecube, do they need a handicap or something for you?
Exactly. So why are you continuing? I get that you love Sony's food processor, but I'm not discussing that. I'm discussing what is the better GAMES console. Is PS2 the more all-purpose system? Yes. But that's for the DVD player/CD player forum. Not the Games forum.
I'm not fanboy, I couldn't care less what company made the Cube. The point I'm making (that you keep missing) is that I'm discussing games. You are intent on discussing the other non-game features in a thread about what's better for games. I'm not a fanboy because I actually had all 3 consoles from their release days and I did love the PS2 at first. Then it decided to be a junk heap, start knocking out shit games and gathering dust. Yours works and you love the games, so obviously that part is subjective. However, mine gathered dust because I bought it to PLAY GAMES and the GAMES weren't good enough. I don't care what DVDs it can play. I have a DVD player. I don't care what CDs it plays. I have a stereo.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm discussing which CONSOLE is better.You feel bad that a COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM has other features, not my problem.
Don't ever accuse me of ignoring. I don't feel bad, it has more features. So what? SO actual what? I'm discussing games. How many times must I actually say this. You are the one bringing in EVERYTHING other than games to bolster your arguement.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Gameboy advance was THE money maker for nintendo, SP was just the same thing, and a way to make money.PSP is the better MACHINE, not necessarily portable.
Put them side by side at the same release date and price them for free, guess what?
Dodged my point nice, so don't ever call me a fanboy.
DS has things you can't do on any other console, it's innovative and compatible. What is PSP? Playstation, exact the same. In your pocket. The amount of people who actually take these things out and play them on the train, or at work, is minimal. There is NO point in buying a pocket Playstation just to sit on your bed, infront of your TV and your regular Playstation, to play the same thing and pay more for games you already have.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Continue to reply to this post, but its falling on blind eyes, because YOU who insulted all the other Playstation players as FANBOYS, have turned out to be a fanboy of the highest degree, and fanboys are usually jealous of the most popular thing, the trend.
Jealous of the trend? I was one of the first in the UK to own a PS2. If you mean I'm jealous of the features, I'm not because I don't want or need them. I'm trying to discuss games, quality of games and enjoyment of games. You're trying to discuss sales, power and other things.
Lets look at this:
Saleswise
PS2>GC>XB
Powerwise
XB>GC>PS2
Hmm. So, Xbox sold shit, and has failed completely. Terribly planned and despite having all the marketing in the world, is the worst of the 3. Power or not.
PS2 has been around much longer, so it's understandable sales are more, it doesn't mean a thing.
Power: Xbox "wins". So? Hasn't done anything for it. PS2? Worst of the 3. Gamecube has more impressive and smoother (not neccessarily more powerful) graphics than them all.
Lets add the relevant one. Quality wise.
PS2 has many many more games but you could probably count the amount of stellar games on PS2 on two hands. Cube has had less games but they have been more impactful.
Let's look:
PS2 had Metal Gears, Code Veronica (Dreamcast port), Pro Evolution (on Xbox now), Tekkens. Those were it's major games.
Cube has Starfox, Mario Sunshine, Mariokart DD, Resident Evil series, Metroid 1 and 2, Eternal Darkness.
If we compare the multi platform games like Spider-Man 2 etc, it is graphically better on the Cube. Less glitching.
-AC