Jesus Christ

Is God and Jesus the same person?

* there are many misconceptions about the word "God"... however, in the Bible, there are two things the word "God" refers to...

1 --> refers to the Father as His name... the Father is called "God" in most of the passages in the Scripture...

2 --> refers to state/nature of being... when Christ/Word was written and called "God" in the Bible, it does not mean that Christ is also the Father...

* the Father and Christ are NOT the same person... John 14:28 says the Father is greater than Christ so it obviously mean that Christ is a different entity from the Father...

* but if we are talking about the state/nature of being of the Father and Christ, They are both spirits, They are both Gods, albeit in John 10:30 Christ said He and the Father are one...

Originally posted by Jbill311
Logic is Satan

Also, Christians don't believe in Pi (as it is contradicted in the bible) or gravity (as it is the devil incarnate)

* pi and gravity are not in contradiction with the Bible, never have i read such a thing... a true Christian, in my opinion, believes faith and also accepts general truth (science)...

Originally posted by peejayd
accepts general truth (science)...

Originally posted by Da Pittman
???

How does he deal with "general truth (science)" when it contradicts the bible?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
How does he deal with "general truth (science)" when it contradicts the bible?

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Its that whole pick and choose thing that they are good at.

They don't realize that you cannot "pick and choose" with science. 😂

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
They don't realize that you cannot "pick and choose" with science. 😂

Originally posted by Da Pittman
They don't realize many things 😆

I didn't know that. 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
How does he deal with "general truth (science)" when it contradicts the bible?

* you again? 😛

* tell me something in the Bible that contradicts science/general truth...

Originally posted by peejayd
* you again? 😛

* tell me something in the Bible that contradicts science/general truth...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
They don't realize that you cannot "pick and choose" with science. 😂

Now, we both know that is not true.

* that's general truth/science?

* the origin of everything is not explained even by science... the others, like miracles, are for believers and their faith...

* i was expecting something like PI or GRAVITY which the Bible does not even refute/talk about... 🙂

Originally posted by peejayd
* that's general truth/science?

* the origin of everything is not explained even by science... the others, like miracles, are for believers and their faith...

* i was expecting something like PI or GRAVITY which the Bible does not even refute/talk about... 🙂

How is the creation of man not explained by science?

How is the creation of the Earth not explained by science?

How is the creation of the universe not explained by science?

Now we may not have the "correct" answer to explain man or the universe but science does try and explain these things so how is it that you say that it doesn't?

Miracles are in the Bible that contradict science, so how is that not relevant to your question?

Originally posted by Da Pittman
???

How is the creation of man not explained by science?

How is the creation of the Earth not explained by science?

How is the creation of the universe not explained by science?

Now we may not have the "correct" answer to explain man or the universe

* i don't know, dude, you tell me...

Originally posted by Da Pittman
but science does try and explain these things so how is it that you say that it doesn't?

* i know there are a lot of theories from science regarding the Creation... and that's the way of science of "trying" to explain it... so if it's only a "trial explanation", it's not general truth, therefore the Bible does not contradict anything regarding Creation... if science has its "trial explanation", the Bible should have its fair share since theories and "trial explanations" are not considered as general truth... fair enough?

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Miracles are in the Bible that contradict science, so how is that not relevant to your question?

* i'm not saying it's irrelevant... i just said i was expecting something like the pi or gravity argument... 🙂

The real question is: How dare republicans use the words "God", "Jesus" and "war in Irak" in a same sentence.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
The real question is: How dare republicans use the words "God", "Jesus" and "war in Irak" in a same sentence.

Why? If you read the OT, the god of the bible was always at war. You don't think that Jesus or god would be a Democrat, do you? 😂

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
The real question is: How dare republicans use the words "God", "Jesus" and "war in Irak" in a same sentence.

Where does Saddam keep his CDs?

Spoiler:
In Iraq!

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why? If you read the OT, the god of the bible was always at war. You don't think that Jesus or god would be a Democrat, do you? 😂

Blessed are the poor.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Now, we both know that is not true.

So, they do know that you cannot "pick and choose" with science?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, they do know that you cannot "pick and choose" with science?

Ofcourse you can pick and choose with science.

You can believe in evolution but not believe in the big bang.

When your doing an experiment you can ignore the bits you don't like and just concentrate on the results you want.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Ofcourse you can pick and choose with science.

You can believe in evolution but not believe in the big bang.

When your doing an experiment you can ignore the bits you don't like and just concentrate on the results you want.

Not true. Review the life of Kepler. You are repeating an urbane legend propagated by Christian fundamentalists.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why? If you read the OT, the god of the bible was always at war. You don't think that Jesus or god would be a Democrat, do you? 😂

Are you smocking pot? Jesus come on earth to deliver a message of PEACE.

War =/= Peace.

I mean... you know... they are like... opposite?

I think that Jesus and God would vote for Ralph Nader or Green Party, something like that.