Jesus Christ

Originally posted by clickclick
You talk about following the book and you still cant address the passage? You sit there asking me to explain it... Umm its clear. Why dont YOU address it. Otherwise, you are admitting to being wrong. Ive already shown you that that they three are God but obviously you have your tactics of avoidance.

Ive stated numerous times that they make up God. To ask me to answer the question "are there three God's" is just you being extremely repetitive.

The word is described as HE and doing things. Jesus said that he was the alpha and the omega. You still havent addressed that. Jesus said that before Abraham, he was. He said when asked how he saw Abraham.

Again, you havent addressed any of that. Why do you keep avoiding?

Am I asking "are there three Gods?" ... Is it difficult to answer the question I repetitively posting? Instead of keep on mambling, why not answer my question first? 🙂 Struggling for Biblical verse? Again, here's the question:

"Where in the Bible does it say that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are parts of one God?"

I'm not denying that Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega... I have addressed that before... check my posts... Jesus was addressed with many titles: Savior, Lord, Rock, "Wonderful Councelor, Mighty God, .. Prince of Peace.. etc" and also the Alpha and Omega... and everything God made Him to be. These titles are intended for the office, government, and/or authority God has given upon His (Jesus) shoulder [Is.6:9].

The truth remains that Jesus Christ is not God.
This God is the One who give Christ all authorities in heaven and earth.
This God is Christ's Father.
This God is the only true God - the Father.

🙂

God knows I didn't avoid any passage.

Check all my posts.

This is what you did. I pointed to a passage that was very clear. You addressed the first little bit and pretended that that covered it. I told you what you did was wrong. You claim it was biblical, there is nothing biblical about taking a passage out of context and then ignoring the rest. So later, you came back and addressed a little bit more of it but FAR from addressing the passage sufficiently. Im asking you to do something that SHOULD be simple for you, yet all you do is avoid it. Even now, if you believe that you havent AVOIDED it, post your message that sufficiently addressed what ive said.

Post your message where you addressed the passage that stated Jesus was the one and only God and sitting on his fathers right hand.
Post your message where you addressed the fact that it states that he was by very nature God and yet made himself into a man. Dont tell me to "GO LOOK FOR IT" either. Had you done it, I would have had absolutely NO problem giving you credit for it. You still havent even sufficiently addressed the fact that Jesus was saying that he SAW abraham. You havent sufficiently addressed the fact that the WORD is clearly reffered to as a HE. A he who DID things. Still waiting.....

I was the one who first asked "Where in the Bible does it say that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are parts of one God?"

Am I asking "are there three Gods?" ... Is it difficult to answer the question I repetitively posting? Instead of keep on mambling, why not answer my question first? smile Struggling for Biblical verse? Again, here's the question:

"Where in the Bible does it say that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are parts of one God?"

I'm not denying that Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega... I have addressed that before... check my posts... Jesus was addressed with many titles: Savior, Lord, Rock, "Wonderful Councelor, Mighty God, .. Prince of Peace.. etc" and also the Alpha and Omega... and everything God made Him to be. These titles are intended for the office, government, and/or authority God has given upon His (Jesus) shoulder [Is.6:9].

The truth remains that Jesus Christ is not God.
This God is the One who give Christ all authorities in heaven and earth.
This God is Christ's Father.
This God is the only true God - the Father.

I dont know that it is worded in that exact way in any particular passage "that those three are one part of one God". However, to say that because it is not worded that exact way, therefore the concept is not there, is asinine.

Dismissing Jesus saying that he is the Alpha and Omega as having no real meaning, is a pathetic tactic. Your argument is nonsensical. Jesus says AT the end, that he is the begining and the end. Then you say, well, he didnt really mean it? 😆 Are you kidding me? So the fact that we are told that he created everything, the fact that jesus makes clear that he saw abraham (something that obviously happend before he was born as a man). The fact that it is made clear that he became flesh, the fact that it is made clear that he lowered himself to becoming a servant and the fact that he confirms that he was the begining and end by saying, im the alpha and omega is lost on you? Really?

The truth remains as so. The father, the son and the holy spirit all divine. You keep parading around the fact that the father put everything under Jesus feet but this has already been sufficiently addressed, BY THE BIBLE. It explains it all perfectly well in the passage that I pointed out not too long ago. He made himself into a servant and GOD put everything under his feet.

Originally posted by clickclick
Now I am saying? Im not the one who wrote the bible, it is the BIBLE that states that Jesus is God.

As to God having three manifestations, that is easy once you get over the hump. We are still working on you understanding the Word. The fact that it is described as a HE who DID things. Once you understand that part, we can move on to the holy spirit. See, this is real easy. The bible doesnt even have to say it one passage that all three were manifestations of God. If you follow the bible and learn what it says on this subject, it becomes clear. First step? You gotta stop being in denial and start addressing things.

There's nowhere in the Bible that says The God is made up of these three: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

1. The Bible says there is only one God.

2. Jesus Christ said the one true God is the Father.

[If the Bible is saying that God has three manifestations (that is, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit), why would Jesus Chirst proclaim that the Father is the only true God?]

3. This one true God is distinct to Jesus Christ because Jesus Christ is not the Father of course.

4. If Jesus Christ is God and yet distinct to the Father who is the true God, there will be two Gods: The Father and the Son. This statement is contradictory to #1 and #2.

5. If Jesus Christ is the one same true God, it means that He is the Father Himself. This statement is contradictory to #3.

6. If Jesus Christ was God before He became a man, where was He before He lived on earth?

7. If Jesus Christ Himself was the "Word" in the beginning which was with God and was God... there will be two Gods. [this God (Word) was with God]

8. If Jesus Christ was the one true God who later became a man, where was God when Jesus lived on earth? No more? Because this one true God already became a man and was already here on earth?

9. If God is made up of the three: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, who was speaking when God declared "I am God and no other"... Did these three speak in chorus?

10. If God is made up of the three: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, which one did Christ refer to when He proclaimed "Your God is My God". Quite odd. Why would He say that our God is His God when He is part of that one God?

Can you address all of these? One by one?

I was right. The Bible Scholars were right.

The concept that God has three manifestations is not found in the Bible. It is the product of the Roman Catholic deceptions.

Both Biblical and Historical proof...

The Jews were strongly monotheistic - believing in one God.
This God declared that He is God and not man.
This God also declared a man is not God.
This God has no tendency of changing, even a shadow of turning.
This God cannot go against His own words.

God introduced Jesus Christ as His Son whom He love so much.
This Jesus Christ is a man.
This Jesus Christ was believed by His apostles as a man.

All these truths will twist when somebody declared Jesus is God.

🙂

Again... as what the Bible is trying to imply...

Jesus in the form of God made Himself in the likeness of man... is all about HUMILITY. (which you said is WRONG)

It is not the same as saying that Jesus as God became a man.

See?

There's nowhere in the Bible that says The God is made up of these three: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

1. The Bible says there is only one God.

2. Jesus Christ said the one true God is the Father.

[If the Bible is saying that God has three manifestations (that is, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit), why would Jesus Chirst proclaim that the Father is the only true God?]

3. This one true God is distinct to Jesus Christ because Jesus Christ is not the Father of course.

4. If Jesus Christ is God and yet distinct to the Father who is the true God, there will be two Gods: The Father and the Son. This statement is contradictory to #1 and #2.

5. If Jesus Christ is the one same true God, it means that He is the Father Himself. This statement is contradictory to #3.

6. If Jesus Christ was God before He became a man, where was He before He lived on earth?

7. If Jesus Christ Himself was the "Word" in the beginning which was with God and was God... there will be two Gods. [this God (Word) was with God]

8. If Jesus Christ was the one true God who later became a man, where was God when Jesus lived on earth? No more? Because this one true God already became a man and was already here on earth?

9. If God is made up of the three: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, who was speaking when God declared "I am God and no other"... Did these three speak in chorus?

10. If God is made up of the three: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, which one did Christ refer to when He proclaimed "Your God is My God". Quite odd. Why would He say that our God is His God when He is part of that one God?

Can you address all of these? One by one?

I was right. The Bible Scholars were right.

The concept that God has three manifestations is not found in the Bible. It is the product of the Roman Catholic deceptions.

Both Biblical and Historical proof...

The Jews were strongly monotheistic - believing in one God.
This God declared that He is God and not man.
This God also declared a man is not God.
This God has no tendency of changing, even a shadow of turning.
This God cannot go against His own words.

God introduced Jesus Christ as His Son whom He love so much.
This Jesus Christ is a man.
This Jesus Christ was believed by His apostles as a man.

All these truths will twist when somebody declared Jesus is God.

The bible does say that there is only ONE god. Yet it says that Jesus is the one and only God. Yet it says that the Word (HE) was with God, that he WAS God. Which begs the question, what exactly makes up God?

The father is the only true God, but the bible speaks about this doesnt it? It tells us about the fake Gods and the true God. Right?
Jesus Christ isnt the father, he was a man. A servant, the word became flesh, he made himself into nothing. Jesus is not the father. Jesus is not the father, nor is the father the son, nor are either the Holy spirit. They are all of the same essence though, they are all divine.

Are you coming up with these arguments yourself or are you reading a book and then using what others have said? The reason I ask you this is because it would explain a couple things. It would explain why you have given insufficent responses to passages and it would explain why you keep using points that have been sufficiently addressed. Check number 7

" If Jesus Christ Himself was the "Word" in the beginning which was with God and was God... there will be two Gods. [this God (Word) was with God]"

WRONG. Why is it wrong though? Because it says, the word WAS GOD. Therefore, it cant be TWO GODS.... Ahgggg.

God was still divine and Jesus was still a man. He was an addition (the word, he, becoming flesh) , not a subtraction, not a merging of two.

I wouldnt know if those "three spoke in a chorus" but it is ultimately irrelevant. Why was he saying that? Why did God say let us make man in our own image? I recall you saying that he was talking to the angels but I have trouble with that one. How can God make man in his image and image of the angels at the same time? Why would God wanted to make man in the image of his creation instead of the image of himself? Since when were Angels made in God's image?

"Why would He say that our God is His God when He is part of that one God?"

It clearly tells us that he made himself into a servant, into nothing. How many times must I go over this one?

No, sorry but you were never right. Now when are you going to address the things the passages I have pointed out?

Dont BS me by saying you already addressed it either. Address the fact (For starters) that it says he was by very nature God and made himself into a man.

As of this moment I am checking the books saying Jesus was the one who said "I AM" in the Old Testament.

Okay.

First... it says the Word was with God. What do you mean by that?

Note, there are two entites mentioned in the former phrase, right? Namely, the "Word" and the "God": the Word was with God. Meaning this "God" has possession of this "Word". The two are distinct.

The latter phrase says: and the Word was God.. what do you mean by that?

Note, the subject in that phrase is the "Word" and the predicate is "was God". What is the function of this predicate? It is a predicate adjective. Meaning a predicate which possess a modifier adjective. Which is the adjective in that predicate? It's "God".

In Greek it was rendered as "Logos theos". When the Greek mentions the person God, they have an article ho before theos. Without this article it gives the sense of an adjective. The "God" in the last phrase is not a "person" but refers to the "nature". What nature? Of course the nature of being God. But it is not the same as saying that it is God itself. So, the Word is in nature of being God. What is the nature of God? We can say "divine"... "powerful".

Thus in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

There is no hinto whatsoever IN THAT PARTICULAR PASSAGE that Jesus Christ Himself was in the beginning, and was with God, and was God.

That's why I asked you before why would John use the term "Word" when He is directly referring to Christ? Why can't He just simply say that: In the beginning was Christ, and Christ was with God, and Christ was God. ...

and the Word was made flesh ... It is not Christ who became flesh. The "flesh" mentioned there is the fulfillment of the plan. The plan of having Christ as the Son of God... the man who will fulfill the will of God.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Thinking of an egg. We have the yoke, the white, and the shell, but it is still ONE egg.

That is a totally disproportioned and invalid analogy. You cannot compare an agg to a god: the trinity dictates that god is the father, the son and the holy spirit. Thus it is equating god as being a father, son and a holy spirit. If you want to compare it to an agg you'd have to say that the egg is the shell and the white and the yolk. But you can't say that: an egg is made up of a shell, yolk and white, BUT it is not a shell in one sense (a shell is just a shell, not an egg), and it is not a yolk and not a white - the trinity says that the father is god, the son is god and the holy spirit is god, but you cant say the shell is the egg, the yolk is the egg, etc.

Simply put, if there is to be a god at all(which there is not) he can only be one, not split up into human forms at the same time - a god is divine, not human.

Originally posted by clickclick
I wouldnt know if those "three spoke in a chorus" but it is ultimately irrelevant. Why was he saying that? Why did God say let us make man in our own image? I recall you saying that he was talking to the angels but I have trouble with that one. How can God make man in his image and image of the angels at the same time? Why would God wanted to make man in the image of his creation instead of the image of himself? Since when were Angels made in God's image?

I AM
John 8:58

"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered,
"before Abraham was born, I am!"
John 8:58

Literally, considering that passage alone, it can be understood as obvious that Jesus really existed before Abraham - in the very sense that He was born before Abraham. Consequently, Trinitarians use this particular passage to support their claim that Jesus Himself already existed from the very beginning in order to prove the allege deity of our Lord Jesus Christ. They also claim that He was the God whom Moses and others have seen as recorded in the Old Testament [Exodus 24:9-10; Judges 13:22].

Let's bear in mind that the true God is Spirit, which means, as clarified by Christ Himself, that God cannot be seen in His form [John 5:37, I Timothy 1:17].

So how did Moses and others claim they saw God? Did they see God in His very form? The Bible has the answer.

For since the creation of the world
God's invisible qualities - his eternal power and divine nature -
have been clearly seen,
being understood from what has been made,
so that men are without excuse.
Romans 1:20 NIV

Clearly, the way God manifests Himself to man is by means of His power though the things that He made.

The Trinitarians, however, argue that it was not God the Father whom these people have seen - it was God the Son in His very form which is flesh.

Now, they claim that Jesus existed in the beginning as God and later incarnated and lived among us. If that so, when did Jesus become flesh? By the time of Moses or by the time Jesus was born of Mary? Inconsistency, that is.

The Bible, however, does not teach about Christ having pre-existence. Our Lord Jesus Christ did not exist during the time of the patriarchs and the prophets; He was not there before He was born [Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:20-24]. Hence, people who lived during the dispensation of the patriarchs could not have seen Christ in the flesh because the promise, or the God’s plan, concerning Christ was not yet fulfilled Romans 1:2-3.

Since when did God make a promise about His plan concerning Christ?

So the LORD God said to the serpent:
‘Because you have done this,
You are cursed more than all cattle,
And more than every beast of the field; …
And I will put enmity Between You and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel!
Genesis 3:14-15, NKJV

And I will establish my covenant between me and thee
and thy seed after thee in their generations
for an everlasting covenant, to be God into thee,
and to thy seed after thee.
Genesis 17:7, KJV

And who is this seed?

Now to Abraham and his Seed
were the promises made. He saith not,
And to seeds, as of many; but as of one,
And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Galatians 3:16, KJV

Christ is the seed of Abraham. And God made an everlasting covenant with Abraham that God would be God unto Abraham and to his Seed. It means that the covenant stipulates that Abraham and his Seed shall deify God; God shall be God unto them, both to Abraham and his Seed, who is Jesus Christ. Far from being a God, Christ is someone who was destined to recognize the true God.

So there was no pre-existent Christ. There was no Christ prior to the fulfillment of the plan of God concerning Him. What was there with God in the beginning was the “Word” or the thought or the plan concerning Christ, not Christ Himself.

The concept of parallelism

Trinitarians also use the particular passage in John 8:58 to prove that Jesus is claiming to be God.

And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM".
And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel,
'I AM has sent me to you'".
Exodus 3:14, NKJV

"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered,
"before Abraham was born, I am!"
John 8:58

Using the concept of parallelism, Trinitarians conclude that Jesus is God simply because Christ spoke the same terms uttered by God. According to them, it was Christ who spoke to Moses because of the term "I AM".

They further imply that the term "I AM" [Gk. ego eimi] can only be used of God.

Okay. Is Jesus Christ the One who said "I AM" in Exodus 3:14? The answer is NO. it was God. When Jesus uttered "I AM" [ego eimi] in John 8:58, was He indicating His alleged divinity? Definitely not.

Now, what was He affirming in this verse? That He was before Abraham. How is He before Abraham when He was born later?

The Bible has the answer:

For He was foreknown before the foundation of the world,
but has appeared in these last times for the sake of you.
I Peter 1:20

God has foreknown Christ before the foundation of the world. To foreknow means to know something before it happens: to have knowledge or awareness that something is going to happen.

The Greek word used in this verse is "proginosko" which is defined in Perschbacher's The New Analytical Greek Lexicon as "to determine on beforehand, to foreordain." (p.345)

In New International Version the verse was rendered as:

He was chosen before the creation of the world.

Some Trinitarians also use this to point out that Christ existed before the creation of the world in the sense that He was there when He was chosen or He was foreordained. That alone is a strong proof.

However, it would also appear that God's chosen people already existed before the foundation of the world since these people were already chosen by God (Ephesians 1:4).

The claim therefore is baseless.

Originally posted by clickclick
The bible does say that there is only ONE god. Yet it says that Jesus is the one and only God. Yet it says that the Word (HE) was with God, that he WAS God. Which begs the question, what exactly makes up God?

You really are turning 180degrees. Before, your side was Jesus is not exactly God. Now, obviously the opposite.

Where in the Bible does it says that Jesus Christ is the One and Only God?

I gave you the illustration:

CREATION: BEGINNING
| In this era God already had a plan concerning Christ
| In this era Christ was not yet existing
| The Word mentioned in the NT was about Jesus which was with God in the beginning... and was God in nature in the sense that it is powerful
| Jesus was also the Seed of Abraham, meaning "descendant"
BIRTH OF JESUS
| In this era the Word which was in the beginning has now become "flesh"
| This "flesh" is the fulfillment of the plan and now lived with us
| On this moment onward the Word of God is already known as Jesus
| This Jesus has done God's will and soon will be back.
| Jesus was proclaimed in the beginning and soon will be back in the end.
| He is the Alpha and the Omega
JUDGMENT DAY

Originally posted by clickclick
The father is the only true God, but the bible speaks about this doesnt it? It tells us about the fake Gods and the true God. Right?
Jesus Christ isnt the father, he was a man. A servant, the word became flesh, he made himself into nothing. Jesus is not the father. Jesus is not the father, nor is the father the son, nor are either the Holy spirit. They are all of the same essence though, they are all divine.

Now... you said earlier that Jesus is the one and only God. Yet you agree that the Father is the only true God... and still saying that Jesus is not the Father.

Yes. Jesus is telling us about the true God and the fake Gods. That's why He introduced to us the only true God - the Father. So aside from the Father, there is no other Gods. The Son, and the Holy Spirit are different from the Father. Am I saying the Son and the Holy Spirit are fake Gods. Of course not. The Son is not the true God. The Holy Spirit is not the true God. Clear still - ONLY the Father is the true God.

The Trinity (which you believe has the concept in the Bible) however tells us that there is one God. And God has three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Moreover, it proclaims that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. Yet it is not the same as saying that there were three Gods (it won't still admit). Why not? The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct persons. If you address each as God, you will still end up believing in three Gods: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. This absurdity ends up by covering it as mystery. Tell it to the marines.

🙂

Here. Tell me if I am wrong.

1. There is only one true God.
2. The one true God is the Father.
3. The Father is not the Son.
4. The Son is not the Holy Spirit.
5. Therefore, the Son is not the true God and so the Holy Spirit.

We can say that the Son and the Holy Spirit are divine.. in the sense that they can be found with the same "nature" as the Father.

But we cannot say that other than the Father, these two are deity.

I can also say that Jesus Christ is "God", not in the sense that He is the God Himself, nor the God of all eternities, nor a separate God, but in the sense that Jesus is in nature God, in the form of God, or with qualities of God given to Him by God.

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Jesus in the form of God making Himself in the likeness of a man... became obedient to the will of God and even to the death on the cross.

This is the best example the chosen people of God should follow. Even though they were chosen by God, they are still entitled to do His greatest will.

This is an example of HUMILITY that everyone should follow.

🙂

[There is no hinto whatsoever IN THAT PARTICULAR PASSAGE that Jesus Christ Himself was in the beginning, and was with God, and was God.

That's why I asked you before why would John use the term "Word" when He is directly referring to Christ? Why can't He just simply say that: In the beginning was Christ, and Christ was with God, and Christ was God. ...

and the Word was made flesh ... It is not Christ who became flesh. The "flesh" mentioned there is the fulfillment of the plan. The plan of having Christ as the Son of God... the man who will fulfill the will of God.

Because Jesus Christ was the name given when the word became flesh.
Sending Christ to earth was a plan but as ive mentioned previously, the word is still refered to as a HE who did things. Jesus still says that he saw abraham. Before abraham he was. It doesnt make sense if he saw abraham because he was "a plan" before abraham.

It also wouldnt make sense when he called himself the alpha and the omega.

So it seems unknown to you what "image" is common to God and His heavenly creations (angels).

Man was made to be above the angels. Is it your contention that therefore God made man in the likeness of something so holy aswell as at the same time something below his next creation?

God has foreknown Christ before the foundation of the world. To foreknow means to know something before it happens: to have knowledge or awareness that something is going to happen.

Which is fine but doesnt explain why Christ was saying that he saw Abraham. They asked him how, if he is so young. To which he said, before Abraham, I am (or something to that effect). How did HE see him is the question.

Thud!!!

You really are turning 180degrees. Before, your side was Jesus is not exactly God. Now, obviously the opposite.

Where in the Bible does it says that Jesus Christ is the One and Only God?

I gave you the illustration:

CREATION: BEGINNING
| In this era God already had a plan concerning Christ
| In this era Christ was not yet existing
| The Word mentioned in the NT was about Jesus which was with God in the beginning... and was God in nature in the sense that it is powerful
| Jesus was also the Seed of Abraham, meaning "descendant"
BIRTH OF JESUS
| In this era the Word which was in the beginning has now become "flesh"
| This "flesh" is the fulfillment of the plan and now lived with us
| On this moment onward the Word of God is already known as Jesus
| This Jesus has done God's will and soon will be back.
| Jesus was proclaimed in the beginning and soon will be back in the end.
| He is the Alpha and the Omega
JUDGMENT DAY

Sorry guy, didnt change anything. I gave you a direct quote from a passage, that states that he was the one and only god, sitting on the fathers right hand.

I'll disregard your previous claim that Jesus is not exactly God.

Now... you said earlier that Jesus is the one and only God. Yet you agree that the Father is the only true God... and still saying that Jesus is not the Father.

Yes. Jesus is telling us about the true God and the fake Gods. That's why He introduced to us the only true God - the Father. So aside from the Father, there is no other Gods. The Son, and the Holy Spirit are different from the Father. Am I saying the Son and the Holy Spirit are fake Gods. Of course not. The Son is not the true God. The Holy Spirit is not the true God. Clear still - ONLY the Father is the true God.

The Trinity (which you believe has the concept in the Bible) however tells us that there is one God. And God has three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Moreover, it proclaims that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. Yet it is not the same as saying that there were three Gods (it won't still admit). Why not? The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct persons. If you address each as God, you will still end up believing in three Gods: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. This absurdity ends up by covering it as mystery. Tell it to the marines.

smile

Here. Tell me if I am wrong.

1. There is only one true God.
2. The one true God is the Father.
3. The Father is not the Son.
4. The Son is not the Holy Spirit.
5. Therefore, the Son is not the true God and so the Holy Spirit.

We can say that the Son and the Holy Spirit are divine.. in the sense that they can be found with the same "nature" as the Father.

But we cannot say that other than the Father, these two are deity.

I can also say that Jesus Christ is "God", not in the sense that He is the God Himself, nor the God of all eternities, nor a separate God, but in the sense that Jesus is in nature God, in the form of God, or with qualities of God given to Him by God.

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Jesus in the form of God making Himself in the likeness of a man... became obedient to the will of God and even to the death on the cross.

This is the best example the chosen people of God should follow. Even though they were chosen by God, they are still entitled to do His greatest will.

This is an example of HUMILITY that everyone should follow

Again, I DIDNT say that Jesus was the one and only god. The bible does, there is a big difference between the two. I didnt write the bible and as such take no credit for what it says.

The son and the holy spirit have the same essence, they are divine. They could not be, other gods. The fake Gods are the ones the pagans worshipped.

You still havent spoken about the fact that it says Jesus, the one and only God, was sitting at the fathers right hand.

I'm mad God!

Grow up philo.

Why?