Jesus Christ

Originally posted by gp christ loves
very good point Debbie and besides finti no other explenations that have been given for where we come from answer it corectly there are to many gaps but a god that is all powerful is very easy to understand and doesn't leave any gaps

Yes, it does leave gaps. It is not proven.

Originally posted by gp christ loves
a god that is all powerful is very easy to understand and doesn't leave any gaps

That's actually not a very christian way of looking at it. In christianity, it is taught that god can not be understood. That's why you're encouraged not to ask 'why'.

there are no gaps to God at all he is perfect and all powerful
to not believe in a higher being is by far the lamest of all

Gaps to your god? what about the pre creation period

Originally posted by finti
if he was so perfect why did he according to your belief have to destroy most of the stuff he created, and if he was all powerful why did this god have to sacrifice the son this god sent to earth for one of this god`s own creations sake. And an all powerful and perfect being would have just fixed it all with a blink of its "eye".

Gaps to your god? what about the pre creation period

I don't think God would fix everything up...We live for all the experiences. God isn't a separate being...We're connected to it/him and everyone else around us, including the plants..the whole earth even. If God created all then he is in all...It's not separated the way we think it is....

Besides It cant blink It's eyes...It really doesn't have them. We are It's eyes here.

hi, I'm muslim, i believe in islam for sure but islam should respect all other religions no matter what, i do believe in christ though I'm muslim but i don't pray for Jesus christ coz he's not the god, the question is how come a god get born, so before Jesus was born there was no god?? god is Allah i believe in Allah pray for him but i still believe in other prophets like mohammed, Jesus, moses, noah and others...
the problem is all religions are right but the books has been changed.. all the meaning of the 4 books (Quraan, taorah, bible(injeel), zaboor) are the same, sorry don't know what do they call the 4 books in english, but the 4 of them had the same meanings but they have been changed except the quraan, 1426 years and still the same check all the books nothing is different, but the bible has been changed few times, i need to read about the bible and other books,,
anywayz my point is i believe in christ but not praying for him, pray for only god Allah who made the earth and human and everything

Most Christians pray to the Father in Jesus name..Some pray to Jesus alone. Christians believe that Jesus is the son of the Father (God).
How do you know that the Bible has been changed a few times and not the Quraan?

Originally posted by debbiejo
Most Christians pray to the Father in Jesus name..Some pray to Jesus alone. Christians believe that Jesus is the son of the Father (God).
How do you know that the Bible has been changed a few times and not the Quraan?

In Islam there is a belief that The Koran is a "correction" of Judaism and Christianity, whose holy scriptures are considered corrupted in their present form.

if the scriptures of judaism and christianity are corrupted in theree present state then they have always been corrupted because every version that we have of them through out history isa the same they have only changed as far as words such as it and and the

Well the old English was hard to understand. If you do a search on 1611 King James, you can see it...But throughout history different books were added or taken out depending on what Pope was in charge. Revelation was one that always went in or out for instance. The Catholic Bible right now has some different books in it then the Protestant one.

how do i know that bible been changed, u can see that there are versions of bible, and quraan go and check you cannot bring one quraan that is different than another one from 1426 years ago till now, they are all the same, and bible they keep on adding up things in it, and they already removed things in it,
quraan in a correction, coz jews and christian used to do wrong things so quraan was brought for prophet mohammed so he can tell ppl what they are doing is wrong, but they keep on ignoring him and hit him and they say that he is not a prophet, quraan is here to correct people's mistakes and take them to the right path of god, if you find one wrong thing that quraan says tell me,
its correcting ppl but still ppl think its wrong

that is because the Arabic language has not changed much through out history while the english language has had thousands of words both added and taken away from it is you look at a hebrew bible however you will see that it has not changed in any way for over 2000 years a lot longer than the Quraan has even been around

how do i know that bible been changed

As a historical person i doubt Christ exsisted.
That shouldn't matter though,People don't follow the life of a historical
Christ.A lot of other prophets lived befor Christ that performed the same exact miracles befor the time of Christ.
I do belive in a being called God that sent his son to Earth but I won't say that his name was Christ.
I don't think that should mean we discard Christ though.
He was and is a spirtual teacher whether he exsisted or not.

He was and is a spirtual teacher whether he exsisted or not

finti that is the one thing you have said that i acctually agrea with
Millie Vanilli what a scam that was

Originally posted by mr.smiley
As a historical person i doubt Christ exsisted.
That shouldn't matter though,People don't follow the life of a historical
Christ.A lot of other prophets lived befor Christ that performed the same exact miracles befor the time of Christ.
I do belive in a being called God that sent his son to Earth but I won't say that his name was Christ.
I don't think that should mean we discard Christ though.
He was and is a spirtual teacher whether he exsisted or not.

I think that person who was "sent" to earth was Dionysus about 2000 before Christ.

yeah Dionysus god of wine...........hmm the first "miracle" of jesus included wine yeah? wine

I'm just a-walking in the sunshine,
Leave your troubles all behind you,
I think I'll drink a little red wine,
I'll take you where they'll never find you - Bad Manners`Walking in the Sunshine

Ya know what? I think starting threads like this is just wrong. It's just not right.

i've said before a religon forum was a bad idea but nobody listens.

Even if christ didn't exist the teachings that have been past down are still important to understand and embrace.
We can't prove that every prophet was a historical figure but it shouldn't matter.
Like I said before if we lived by the historical Christ their wouldn't be much to follow.

Milli vanille?

No way pal,the teachings of Christ are religous classics not one hit wonders.

"I think that person who was "sent" to earth was Dionysus about 2000 before Christ."

possibly.
their is a lot in common.