Originally posted by Raven Guardia
well...I do 😬. She likes the Devil, but says there's no God, Yet she thinks Aliens are real and abduct people and such
So your friend faith has another friend who wants to sacrifice her to the devil...????...Wouldn't faith not go along with this?.....and for what purpose anyway.....
Sounds like some childish talk from the so called satanist, what ever she is..
Originally posted by finti
can I ask what denomination you belong too?
Well I am Methodist....Faith is Baptist,if you think I am bad she even gets on my nerves with telling about God. She acts like I am all bad just because I swear sometimes.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
So, you're saying that god is one half vengful and one half loving?I didn't think you guys thought that god did anything half-assed.
Originally posted by debbiejo
So your friend faith has another friend who wants to sacrifice her to the devil...????...Wouldn't faith not go along with this?.....and for what purpose anyway.....Sounds like some childish talk from the so called satanist, what ever she is..
Okay, Kim wanted to sacrifice Faith....I told Faith about it because I wasn't sure if Kim would do it or not (Kim likes to deal with things, that I don't think should be dealt with)Faith, got upset but didn't really believe it. Kim is alot of talk but still you never know with her.
Originally posted by finti
okyour friend Kim sounds like she needs a punch in her face
she does. I tried hard to respect her beliefs (when she liked Wicca), she would always end up downing my Religion. Even though I was nice to her about her 'Religion'. Then she started talking about doing bad spells (like th cause physical harm to others) on people and making sacrifice to the devil and Quqi boards and crap like that.
Originally posted by Raven Guardia
I wouldn't say half-assed, but he will punish the bad (lack of a better word) people. Say if someone kills another, when they go before him he will be very angry, but he will forgive them if they ask for forgiveness.
So, I can kill someone and go before him and ask for forgivness and all will be forgiven?
Then why can't we all be total bastards our entire lives and then ask for forgivness at teh last second? I mean, you have to see the inherent illogical nature of what you're saying?
If a Hindu lives his entire life, knowing that christianity exists, and then arrives in front of god...don't you think that he will realize that he'd lived his entire life steeped in false beliefs and believe in the christian god, at that point. So, why do we all need to be converted? Or any of us, for that matter.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
So, I can kill someone and go before him and ask for forgivness and all will be forgiven?Then why can't we all be total bastards our entire lives and then ask for forgivness at teh last second? I mean, you have to see the inherent illogical nature of what you're saying?
If a Hindu lives his entire life, knowing that christianity exists, and then arrives in front of god...don't you think that he will realize that he'd lived his entire life steeped in false beliefs and believe in the christian god, at that point. So, why do we all need to be converted? Or any of us, for that matter.
see, you cant just ask for the fact so you will get ito n heaven. You must truely be sorry and want forgivness.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Also What about all the people who lived before Jesus....and what about the people who lived in China, India, Australia, South Africa...they never heard cause Jesus was only in the Middle Eastern region...are they all condemned?
Originally posted by Raven Guardia
she does. I tried hard to respect her beliefs (when she liked Wicca), she would always end up downing my Religion. Even though I was nice to her about her 'Religion'. Then she started talking about doing bad spells (like th cause physical harm to others) on people and making sacrifice to the devil and Quqi boards and crap like that.
Well you know Wicca isn't evil...just more like nature worship, some god and goddess stuff...kinda worship...pagan..Sounds like kim is just making up her own stuff and says things for attention.
Originally posted by Raven Guardia
see, you cant just ask for the fact so you will get ito n heaven. You must truely be sorry and want forgivness.
Yeah, I understand that...but you might be missing my point. ANYONE who is standing before god, would have to know that this was the one true god...so you would believe in his rules for the afterlife.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Well you know Wicca isn't evil...just more like nature worship, some god and goddess stuff...kinda worship...pagan..Sounds like kim is just making up her own stuff and says things for attention.
see, thats the thing I studied Wicca for a bit. It is the whorship of nature but she likes the dark stuff. Not the good. Instead of using a spell to help someone. she would rather cast a spell to harm someone. Yeah, it probably is just for attention.
Originally posted by debbiejo
I know...it doesn't say, and don't you think that would be one of the MOST IMPORTANT QUESTIONS?
Yeah, somethings are not answered and it can be frustrating
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Yeah, I understand that...but you might be missing my point. ANYONE who is standing before god, would have to know that this was the one true god...so you would believe in his rules for the afterlife.
If I am my getting you point, People would understand the consequences. But say someone murder a loved one of yours and in a moment of sadness and anger you killed them in revenge. You might be a good Christian and know you sinned so you would ask God for forgiveness.
Originally posted by Raven Guardia
If I am my getting you point, People would understand the consequences. But say someone murder a loved one of yours and in a moment of sadness and anger you killed them in revenge. You might be a good Christian and know you sinned so you would ask God for forgiveness.
No, you're not getting what I'm saying...nor do I understand your post, at all.
What I'm saying is that standing in the presence of god is pretty much evidence to the none believer that they were wrong...and would logically understand that the christian god was the one true god, and thusly, have no problem accepting him as such. Thus, their mortal lives would have no significant impact on their afterlife.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
No, you're not getting what I'm saying...nor do I understand your post, at all.What I'm saying is that standing in the presence of god is pretty much evidence to the none believer that they were wrong...and would logically understand that the christian god was the one true god, and thusly, have no problem accepting him as such. Thus, their mortal lives would have no significant impact on their afterlife.
hmmm, well I think maybe if they weren't sure during life he might let them in. But say if the openly choose not to follow him during life, even if they know or believe he is real and still choose not too, then I think that would have an impact
as for what I said, I basically meant say a Person does wrong and they know they were wrong and were sorry about it, then he would forgive them.