Jesus Christ

Started by debbiejo208 pages

Originally posted by KPrince
A talking animal? No, you have Paul confused with another person. Is this pertaining to him talking to a lion in one of those canons outside the Bible?
Ha ha.....OK, he was walking and heard a voice...That said "Saul saul, why do you perecute me.".....Still he didn't see anyone...He just heard a voice.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Ha ha.....OK, he was walking and heard a voice...That said "Saul saul, why do you perecute me.".....Still he didn't see anyone...He just heard a voice.

Yes he did. He heard Jesus' voice.

Originally posted by KPrince
Yes he did. He heard Jesus' voice.
But he didn't meet him.....And how do you know it was Jesus' voice....Were you there?

Originally posted by debbiejo
But he didn't meet him.....And how do you know it was Jesus' voice....Were you there?

God the Father chooses how He wants Jesus to speak to mankind. When He spoke to the ancient Israelites, God spoke with a thunderous voice which terrified the people. They did not want to hear God's voice for fear that they would die of fright. So God chose to speak through His servants, Prophets, Apostles, Patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob). God speaks to His servants in a still small voice. He spoke to Elijah in this manner.

"And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake:
And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.
And it was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah?" I Kings 19:11-13

God did not show Himself, but speaks to His servants, either through an Angel or by Himself. This is the same manner in which He spoke to Paul.

wow listen people, Jesus is God. They are one. The Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, is all God. Just sort of in different forms. God was in the beginning, no one created God, no one is more powerful than God. That is what I believe and if you read the Bible, you have proof if you believe it.

Originally posted by spencerspider
wow listen people, Jesus is God. They are one. The Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, is all God. Just sort of in different forms. God was in the beginning, no one created God, no one is more powerful than God. That is what I believe and if you read the Bible, you have proof if you believe it.

Then there should be nothing that god can not do. 😄

there isn't.. what do you think he cant do?

Originally posted by spencerspider
wow listen people, Jesus is God. They are one. The Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, is all God.

Just sort of in different forms.

God was in the beginning, no one created God, no one is more powerful than God.

That is what I believe and if you read the Bible, you have proof if you believe it. [/B]

Jesus is a God, one of two. His Father is the Supreme God.

Actually, it is more like two separate Beings working in complete harmony with each other for all eternity. That is why Jesus said "I and My Father are One." John 10:30

Yes. You are right that God is from the beginning; God has no end or beginning; and that no one is more powerful than God. God the Father and Jesus the Son are of the same existence--Spirit. However, there is not one God Being, but two--A Father and A Son. The Holy Spirit is the power which God used to create the universe and imparts to mankind--it is God's power.

"Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.
Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows." Psalm 45:6-7

"But unto the Son he [God the Father, Hebrew 1:1-7] saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows." Hebrew 1:8-9

I read the Bible, and this is proof of what I am saying.

o ok, I never really looked at it from that point, you have a point.

Originally posted by KPrince
God the Father chooses how He wants Jesus to speak to mankind. I Kings 19:11-13

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How come he's been so silent in 2000 years....Does he have nothing to say?

Originally posted by spencerspider
there isn't.. what do you think he cant do?
He won't talk to anyone anymore like he supposedly spoke to Paul....selfish selfish god.

? He talked back in Bible Times to people yes, why He stopped I do not know, but He still answers prayer, so technically He does.

That is just it, God has not been silent. The voice crying out in the wilderness has been sounding for years, but man is so far removed from God that he cannot, and refuses to hear. In the garden of Eden there were two trees: The Tree of Life, and the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. These trees represented two ways of life: the first tree represented the life God wanted for man, free of disease and suffering of war and hatred; the second represented mankind leaning to his own understanding of what is right and wrong. We know which tree Adam and Eve ate from. What that tree represented is what mankind has been experiencing for ages now: deciding what is right and wrong in their own eyes. There comes a time when the child refuses to obey the parent, even if the parent knows what is best for it. What is the parent to do? The parent has no choice but to allow the child to learn the hard way. God is the Parent, Mankind is the child.

Originally posted by spencerspider
there isn't.. what do you think he cant do?

Forgive people who never ask for forgiveness. 😄

Originally posted by KPrince
That is just it, God has not been silent. .
If new knowledge was told to you by god in another book, then you would accept it then.

Forgive people who don't ask for forgiveness? Why you like answer your own question. If you do not ask you will receive how you acted. If you killed someone, and you don't ask for forgiveness, you will be punished. If you do ask for forgivenss you will still be punished but probably something a little lighter. if you act good there is no need to ask for forgiveness

Originally posted by debbiejo
If knew knowledge was told to you by god in another book, then you would accept it then.

Think of mankind as individual machines. Now an inventor must have an instruction manual for those machines, to give instruction on how they work, how they must be maintained to avoid breakdown. Human beings are physiochemical machines, God is the inventor, and His written word--the Bible--is the instruction manual.

thats a good way to put it, and there won't be new knowledge from god in any book form probably

Originally posted by spencerspider
Forgive people who don't ask for forgiveness? Why you like answer your own question. If you do not ask you will receive how you acted. If you killed someone, and you don't ask for forgiveness, you will be punished. If you do ask for forgivenss you will still be punished but probably something a little lighter. if you act good there is no need to ask for forgiveness

If god knows everything before you do it, and he knows that you will be punished, it would be "god like" if he just forgave every one for what some stupid women did. 😆

#2. god can not do evil acts, even though he did in the OT.
#3. god has needs and wants, this shows that god is incomplete and not perfect.
#4. god can not kill himself. 😆
#5. god can not travel through time, he is as restricted by time, just like us.

um wow number 1 was stupid but 2, where does he do evil? tell me that. everything he does even when he tells the Israelites to kill some nations, that is for the good of His people, the chosen people, and most of the time it was to kill heathens or something like that