Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Its not salesman JARGON im merely stating whats shown in the comics. As a fan of course im going to know more about the subject than you. In the same way id go to Long Pig to find out about Dr Strange or Demi for Magneto.
Jargon Ohhhh (sorry)
Your missing the point Sonny Jim.
Avatar, Host ? 🙂
"Behold! The first level! The stars! Plasmatic geodes of concentrated cosmic life force. The source from which all other life springs. The first-- and in many ways greatest-- of the principalities. They are the most precious of things. Despite all their power, they are remarkably fragile. The well from which they draw their sustenance is subject to turbulance. Periodically, it ignites in the form of the Chaos-Bringer, predator of stars-- the Dark Phoenix."
Kubik in Fantastic Four Annual #23
Originally posted by GalacticStormThe pic is all that matters.
"Behold! The first level! The stars! Plasmatic geodes of concentrated cosmic life force. The source from which all other life springs. The first-- and in many ways greatest-- of the principalities. They are the most precious of things. Despite all their power, they are remarkably fragile. The well from which they draw their sustenance is subject to turbulance. Periodically, it ignites in the form of the Chaos-Bringer, predator of stars-- the Dark Phoenix."Kubik in Fantastic Four Annual #23
"jgg".
Keep the faith 🤘
Stay cordy 🙂
Originally posted by yahman
And I quote 'He inherited the both psionic powers of his father and the cosmic power of the phoenix force'Sounds like a fact to me.
Except: 1)His father isn't a psionic and 2)the Phoenix Force isn't an inherited power. That's why none of Jean's children were born with it. Not even Rachel.
Therefore those facts are fiction.
Here's a counter fact - Phoenix by herself beat Galactus and had him at her mercy. He talked her out of continuing to destroy him. Scans are posted on this very thread.
Doesn't just sound like a fact. It looks like one too.
And if we are going over the whole Feat thing again, we decided that the remaking the universe did not quantify her as being second only to the 'crown'😆.
"we" did? Musta missed that one. Tell me again when "we" decided that.
There where various examples of characters performing similar feats, yet we are supposed to believe that Phoenix is above them all? 🙂 Using your reasoning Demi, I believe not. 🙂
Believe it or not, performing an operation on a universe isn't her best feat. I challenge you to name any in the Marvel Universe that meet or surpass what Phoenix has done.
Aside from Magneto Prime, that is!
Originally posted by demigawdPlease, Alpha Beast, and Wolverine Prime own magneto prime.
Believe it or not, performing an operation on a universe isn't her best feat. I challenge you to name any in the Marvel Universe that meet or surpass what Phoenix has done.Aside from Magneto Prime, that is!
hulk buster wolverine aint so bad either...
Originally posted by demigawd
Except: 1)His father isn't a psionic and 2)the Phoenix Force isn't an inherited power. That's why none of Jean's children were born with it. Not even Rachel.Therefore those facts are fiction.
Here's a counter fact - Phoenix by herself beat Galactus and had him at her mercy. He talked her out of continuing to destroy him. Scans are posted on this very thread.
Doesn't just sound like a fact. It looks like one too.
"we" did? Musta missed that one. Tell me again when "we" decided that.
Believe it or not, performing an operation on a universe isn't her best feat. I challenge you to name any in the Marvel Universe that meet or surpass what Phoenix has done.
Aside from Magneto Prime, that is!
We, refers to G.S., Whirly and I. Sorry you did miss it 🙂
Well thats what it said in the book. G.S. is an admirer of using alternate sources to prove his point, I'm acting accordingly.
If Franklin Richards powers aren't Psionic based, what exactly are they ? 🙂
And that was Jean beating Galactus not Hyper storm. The displays by the Host vary. Jgggg clearly demonstrates this. 😉
I cannot name an example, but G.S. has placed Phoenix above characters from other universes who have performed similar feats. Therefore my point applies to others outside the marvel universe. 🙂
What exactly is her greatest feat then ?
Originally posted by yahman
We, refers to G.S., Whirly and I. Sorry you did miss it 🙂
that's ok, it's not her best feat.
Well thats what it said in the book. G.S. is an admirer of using alternate sources to prove his point, I'm acting accordingly.
Yeah, he picks and chooses sources carefully to make sure it all fits into a consistent phoenix worldview, lol. not so bad, though.
If Franklin Richards powers aren't Psionic based, what exactly are they ? 🙂
cosmic reality manipulation. psionic would imply inheriting franklin's self-created Psi-lord powers, which aren't nearly as powerful.
And that was Jean beating Galactus not Hyper storm. The displays by the Host vary. Jgggg clearly demonstrates this. 😉
which was my point. If Phoenix in full possession and command of the PF can beat G, then obviously Hyperstorm isn't in possession of that much power if he lost. Therefore my original point stands - he inherited grey/summers power which would contribute Shaman Nate levels of power at most...not Phoenix. Given that he lost, it's also reasonable to believe that he also really did inherit his father's psionic powers - which means only the psi-lord powers. Psi-lord + Shaman Nate would be awfully powerful, enough to give G a fight....but far short of Celestial Franklin + Phoenix Force.
I cannot name an example, but G.S. has placed Phoenix above characters from other universes who have performed similar feats. Therefore my point applies to others outside the marvel universe. 🙂
You'll have to take it up with him, but i think he puts it on the level with The Brothers, who have the most similar feats.
What exactly is her greatest feat then ?
Tossup between creating the abstracts of the multiverse and repairing the M'Kraan Crystal, which controls the omniverse.