Originally posted by demigawd
that's ok, it's not her best feat.Yeah, he picks and chooses sources carefully to make sure it all fits into a consistent phoenix worldview, lol. not so bad, though.
cosmic reality manipulation. psionic would imply inheriting franklin's self-created Psi-lord powers, which aren't nearly as powerful.
which was my point. If Phoenix in full possession and command of the PF can beat G, then obviously Hyperstorm isn't in possession of that much power if he lost. Therefore my original point stands - he inherited grey/summers power which would contribute Shaman Nate levels of power at most...not Phoenix. Given that he lost, it's also reasonable to believe that he also really did inherit his father's psionic powers - which means only the psi-lord powers. Psi-lord + Shaman Nate would be awfully powerful, enough to give G a fight....but far short of Celestial Franklin + Phoenix Force.
You'll have to take it up with him, but i think he puts it on the level with The Brothers, who have the most similar feats.
Tossup between creating the abstracts of the multiverse and repairing the M'Kraan Crystal, which controls the omniverse.
No actually above the brothers. 🙂
And anyone with any form of extra dimensional tech (E.G. that Imp thing from D.C.) would be able to fix the M'Krann crystal.
Originally posted by yahman
No actually above the brothers. 🙂And anyone with any form of extra dimensional tech (E.G. that Imp thing from D.C.) would be able to fix the M'Krann crystal.
If you look at the hierarchy i posted and the appropriate thread where we all discussed the matter in full you'll see the white crown phoenix as a representative of the crown was agreed to be on the same level as the likes of the brothers. They would be peers. Both representing something far greater than themselves. Yahman you really need to properly read the contributions of others. 😉
So what if someone else can fix a universe as well. Thats not the be all and end all of phoenix. If you'd read Demis post properly you'd know that. The imps still have to answer to the supreme being of DC and the power Jean is connected to has been shown to be an aspect of this supreme being as previously stated. 😱
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If you look at the hierarchy i posted and the appropriate thread where we all discussed the matter in full you'll see the white crown phoenix as a representative of the crown was agreed to be on the same level as the likes of the brothers. They would be peers. Both representing something far greater than themselves. Yahman you really need to properly read the contributions of others. 😉So what if someone else can fix a universe as well. Thats not the be all and end all of phoenix. If you'd read Demis post properly you'd know that. The imps still have to answer to the supreme being of DC and the power Jean is connected to has been shown to be an aspect of this supreme being as previously stated. 😱
but not of DCU so heres jgg
Nope not tonight 😂
tommorrow perhaps don't worry GS its no biggie
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
but not of DCU so heres jggNope not tonight 😂
tommorrow perhaps don't worry GS its no biggie
Big question is the supreme being in Marvel or DC the true supreme being?
What if Marvel and DC omniverses are like a small fishtank owned by Fred of the Tosser Gods, who is a Janitor in Tosser God land. And in Tosser God land far bigger omniverses more like Seaworld exist.
🙂 think about it that makes Phoenix a very small fish indeed 🙂
After all fiction is as fiction does 🙂
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Big question is the supreme being in Marvel or DC the true supreme being?What if Marvel and DC omniverses are like a small fishtank owned by Fred of the Tosser Gods, who is a Janitor in Tosser God land. And in Tosser God land far bigger omniverses more like Seaworld exist.
🙂 think about it that makes Phoenix a very small fish indeed 🙂
After all fiction is as fiction does 🙂
Originally posted by illadelph12
Demigawd wasn't the only one carrying the Iceman flag in that thread...
True enough Illadelph and I think you Demi and I produced at least for me one of the most enjoyable debates ever on here. It never got personal and we all really enjoyed it (well I did), I respected you guys logic and I think you did mine.
Originally posted by WhirlysplattWell duh. . . since none of it's real they're the fish tanks of the companies of marvel and DC. Who are indeed small in the grand scheme of our universe. .
Big question is the supreme being in Marvel or DC the true supreme being?What if Marvel and DC omniverses are like a small fishtank owned by Fred of the Tosser Gods, who is a Janitor in Tosser God land. And in Tosser God land far bigger omniverses more like Seaworld exist.
🙂 think about it that makes Phoenix a very small fish indeed 🙂
After all fiction is as fiction does 🙂
😖hifty: Or are they merely a window into an alter realties, which would be possible if matter has to take all forms. . . er um . . anyway. 😮
Originally posted by Creshosk
Well duh. . . since none of it's real they're the fish tanks of the companies of marvel and DC. Who are indeed small in the grand scheme of our universe. .😖hifty: Or are they merely a window into an alter realties, which would be possible if matter has to take all forms. . . er um . . anyway. 😮
now your getting it!
Keep the faith 🙂
Stay Whirly 🤘
do you think GS knows its not real? 🙂
best not to tell him, OK! 😉
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
now your getting it!Keep the faith 🙂
Stay Whirly 🤘
do you think GS knows its not real? 🙂
best not to tell him, OK! 😉
Are you mad? 😂
What have any of the characters we debate about here got to do with real life? 😕
We can only go by what we know, what is stated in the comics. We are told who is supreme in the companies respective multiverses and thats what we have to go by. Any talk or speculation of there being a higher being comic book wise is just that and has no bearing on these debates unless theyre actually referred to in some manner in the comics.
Youre getting real good at re-positioning those goal posts Whirly. 😮 🙂
Despite all my strong beliefs and opinions, in debate if im wrong im wrong and i'll happily admit. I'll even be grateful for the heads up, because thats what this is all about. The relating and sharing of views and opinions, with the enlightenment of all the desirable end result. As a self assured man its something of an anathema to me when people resort to diversion, misdirection and/or intentional misinterpretation to avoid accepting the flaws in their stance. 🙁
Originally posted by Mr _Whirlysplat
Xornetto wo look at the picture
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/218160
Xorn's twin brother possesed by the sentient mold Sublime pretending to be Magneto pretending to be Xorn.
However you set this up as Magneto (who is currently powerless) vs Phoenix. and of course KMC removes all non-stipulated plot devices.
Phoenix beats the powerless Magneto. 😐
Originally posted by Creshosk
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/218160Xorn's twin brother possesed by the sentient mold Sublime pretending to be Magneto pretending to be Xorn.
However you set this up as Magneto (who is currently powerless) vs Phoenix. and of course KMC removes all non-stipulated plot devices.
Phoenix beats the powerless Magneto. 😐
and Phoenix who is currently in shards 🙂 So much for being one even with herself.