where the Church Fathers had maintained that lucifer was not the proper name of the Devil, and that it referred rather to the state from which he had fallen; St. Jerome gave it Biblical authority when he transformed it into Satan's proper name
My findings are thus...Lucifer was the name of a fallen angel, but after time, Lucifer came to be the name for the Devil!
The meaning of the word “Lucifer” is “light-bearer.” The Scriptural basis for applying this name to Satan can be found in Isaiah 14:12. The Catholic Douay-Rheims version translates “Day Star” as “Lucifer,” whereas the Catholic Edition of the Revised Standard Version (RSV CE) uses the more linguistically accurate “Day Star.” In the literal sense of the scripture verse, the Babylonian empire is being referenced. However, in the spiritual sense, the Church has long recognized that the passage speaks of a fallen angel, namely Satan:
“How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low!” (RSV CE).
A New Testament passage that somewhat parallels the spiritual sense of
Isaiah 14:12 can be found in Luke 10:18 which states:
“And he said to them, ‘I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.’”
For more reading on the angels, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, nos. 391-95, 414, and 760. See also the entry for “Demons” in the Catechism’s Index.
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Which religious "nonsense" do you hate?The FreeMasons religious concepts...
Or Christ's followers concepts....
Budhists?
Hindews?
Or all of them combined?
He hates it because it isn't related to the Illuminati or whomever directly, now, if we said the pope was actually a lizard worshiper then maybe
Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
He hates it because it isn't related to the Illuminati or whomever directly, now, if we said the pope was actually a lizard worshiper then maybe
actually satan is related to the illuminati as they are all satanists who appear worship 'demons' and such. but maybe they are just worshipping other entitys from other dimensions. how should i know.
religion in general creates a mind prison. and the anti christ notion is all crap imo
In contrast with the good qualities, the evil and the indifferent ones originate not in the goodness and wisdom of God, whose substance underlies the universe, but in the blindness and willfulness of certain spiritual entities.
True "Angels of Light" are spirits, upon whom great power, wisdom and holiness have been bestowed by God.
The word Angel means "messenger", for the most frequent role of angels is that of messengers and mediators between the PLEROMA and the world of humans.
There are supposably nine orders or "choirs" of angels: Seraphim, Cherubim, Thrones, Dominions (or Dominations), Virtues, Powers, Principalities (Kingdoms), Archangels and Angels. The canonical scriptures mention three angels by name: the Archangels Michael, Gabriel and Raphael. The Gnostic church adds to these a fourth: Uriel. Gnostic scriptures mention most of these angels and add numerous others such as the rescuer of Gnostics, Eleleth, and many others.
Positive Angels help Humans by praying for them, by acting as messengers between the PLEROMA and our earthly dwelling place, and by serving as our guardian angels.
Guardian angels pray for us, protect us from spiritual harm (or at times also from physical harm).
The visitation of the Holy Virgin Mary by the Archangel Gabriel and the revelation of the Koran to Mohammed by the same Archangel are two examples of Angels who were supposed to have been seen.
There are spiritual beings who have become estranged from God and from the PLEROMA and who are thus at best unwise and at worst evil.
They are found primarily in connection with the material universe and its mental and emotional aspects, for they are primarily responsible for the creation and management of the negative realms and for the suffering and sorrow that abide therein.
One of the Original names for Lucifer/Satan was Demiurge or "half-maker" because he was supposed to have taken the divine substance and fashioned out of it a world. He is the spiritual being who had become forgetful of his origins, even of God. He thinks that he is God and there is no other God before him.
In Gnostic scriptures he is called YALDABAOTH (child of chaos), SACLAS (fool) and SAMAEL (blind one). Later he was at times identified with LUCIFER or SATAN, the prince of the powers of air.
Not all the images of God in the Old Testament come from the same source. A good many are descriptions of the Demiurge. Some, such as those in the Wisdom Literature and in some Psalms, are of a much more exalted nature. Some Gnostic teachers held that the teachings of the Old Testament were a mixture attributable to three sources: the Demiurge, the elders of Israel and the True God.
Aside from Lucifer (Also known as Demiurge and or Satan) There is suppose to exist monstrosities of evil which populate hellish regions in association with earth. Their origins are unknown. The name of one demon mentioned in Gnostic scriptures is YACHTANABAS, although there are others.
Originally posted by Deano
actually satan is related to the illuminati as they are all satanists who appear worship 'demons' and such. but maybe they are just worshipping other entitys from other dimensions. how should i know.religion in general creates a mind prison. and the anti christ notion is all crap imo
A mind prison indeed.
According to Greek philosophy the Demiurge (The Devil) is not necessarily identical with God, as first and supreme source of all things; he may be distinct from and inferior to the supreme spirit, though he may also be the practical expression of the reason of God, the Logos as operative in the harmony of the universe. In this sense, i.e. that of a world-maker distinct from the Supreme God, Demiurge became a common term in Gnosticism. The Gnostics, however, were not satisfied merely to emphasize the distinction between the Supreme God, or God the Father, and the Demiurge, but in many of their systems they conceived the relation of the Demiurge to the Supreme God as one of actual antagonism, and the Demiurge became the personification of the power of evil, the Satan, with whom the faithful had to wage war to the end that they might be pleasing to the Good God.
The term Demiurge became still more complicated when in some systems he was identified with the Old Testament, and was brought in opposition to Christ of the New Testament, the Only-Begotten Son of the Supreme and Good God. The purpose of Christ's coming as Saviour and Redeemer (According to the New Testament) was to rescue us from the power of the Demiurge, the lord of the world of this darkness, and bring us to the light of the Good God, His Father in heaven.
Point being...
Don't let people blind you with a lie.
Lucifer was and still is an Evil Being.
Higher Masons worship Lucifer. Lucifer is the Devil and he presides over the material World.
I believe God views the attatchment to things that don't last forever as vanity. Attatchment to The Material World would place a person in the position of committing vanity.
Things that don't last forever are considered vain.
Anything that lasts forever is considered of the highest priority in Heaven.
Oh I'll be providing more evidence of that as well.
However, higher level Masons are attatched to the Material World indeed. I know it from the way they treat the World as well as society in General.
The primary tool that the "Controllers" use for their agenda is money.
Money can be seen as the material World at it's finest.
When you understand the greed that surrounds these types of Secret Societies and their purposes, you will understand how it all evolves around the Material World and the Devil.
Would you please explain, why do high level masons worship the Devil? (I'm humouring him here)
To worship the devil then they must acknowledge that God exists, therefore, they know that God is the more powerful and will overcome Satan in the end,
they should also realise that the Devil is fickle and is not worthy of trust or worship, in the end, why chose to worship the Devil when you know God exists, and you know with God you have eternal life but with the Devil you face damnation?
A politician would NEVER chose the option that has him losing in the long run, it makes him no sense!
Of course my friend! As I said...I'll be providing evidence for that as well.
And yes....people who worship the Devil don't care about outcomes my friend. They care about destruction and separation from the Father. They are trapped in their own Mind-Prison. A Mind-Prison that they created for themselves. A snare so to speak.
They have no conscience.
3 qualities of such a person are these:
1. They don't like God.
2. They don't like Animals.
3. They don't like Children.
Watch out for people such as that.
Watch for those 3 qualities whenever you run into somebody who you are not sure you can trust.
If they state one of those three things to you, it would be best to stay away from them. Don't bother asking them why they feel that way....because there answer can never be justified.
If they don't state them to you, but yet their actions prove to be otherwise...it would be best to stay away from them.
The same goes for if they lie to you. Politicians lie all the time to every one of us. Never go by what a person says. Let that spark your interest. But never let it determine or influence your reality.
Go by what they do.