The Official KMC "Conspiracy" Thread

This was taken directly from Icke's research:

Comparison of Jesus To Horus of ancient Egypt:

Jesus was the Light of the World.

Horus was the Light of the World.

Jesus said He was the way, the truth, and the life.

Horus said He was the truth, and the life.

Jesus is said to have been born in Bethlehem, which means 'house of bread'.

Horus is said to have been born in Annu, which means 'place of bread'.

Jesus was the Good Shepherd.

Horus was the Good Shepherd.

Seven fishers board a boat with Jesus.

Seven people board a boat with Horus.

Jesus was the lamb.

Horus was the lamb.

Jesus is identified with a cross.

Horus is identified with a cross.

Jesus was baptised at 30.

Horus was baptised at 30.

Jesus was the child of a virgin, Mary.

Horus was the child of a virgin, Isis.

The birth of Jesus was marked by a star.

The birth of Horus was marked by a star.

Jesus was the child teacher in the temple.

Horus was the child teacher in the temple.

Jesus had 12 disciples.

Horus had 12 followers.

Jesus was the Morning Star.

Horus was the Morning Star.

Jesus was the Christ.

Horus was the Krst.

Jesus was tempted on a mountain by Satan.

Horus was tempted on a mountain by Set.

So perhaps he just hasn't considered yet the possibility that they were the same person Reincarnated?

maybe.. or they were just handed down repackaged religions

Could only be one of the two right?

Keep in mind though that both the Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans mention Horus.

And that both Christians and Muslims mention Jesus.

Even Native Americans describe a man like Jesus coming to America and walking amongst their people.

India has records of the same.

Jesus....Horus.....so similar....both described so peacefully, both without negativity.....makes a person wonder.

On the flip side...

Set and Satan.....

So similar...

So Evil in their descriptions...

Negativity abounds their names.

Both tempted the Spirit of Christ.

Some more stuff relating to Lucifer/Satan (The Dark Angel):

Satan is said to be an angel (Job 1-2). God is supposed to have made him before the world began (Job 38:4-7). Satan is said to be very powerful and very wise But he became the first sinner (1 John 3:8). Apparently at one point in the past (or possibly future) he led a rebellion in heaven against God (Revelation 12:7). In Satan’s fall, he drew a vast number of angels with him (Revelation 12:4, 9). Some of the fallen angels are loose and some are bound in a place called the Abyss (Luke 8:31). The loose ones we call "demons". Of the bound ones, there are two kinds, permanently bound (2 Peter 2:4; Jude 6) and temporarily bound (Revelation 9:1-11). Satan and his demons now wage war against God’s kingdom (Revelation 12:17). Satan now dwells on earth (Job 1:7). At the Second Coming of Christ, he will be bound for 1,000 years (Revelation 20:1-3). After the thousand years, he will be set free for a short time and will go out to deceive the nations (Revelation 20:7-9). The devil’s final end will be in the lake of fire (Revelation 20:10), which was prepared by God for the devil and his angels (Matthew 25:41).

A scripture relating to Lucifer/Satan the Devil:

"Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, 'Thus says the Lord God: "You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, beryl, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created. You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; you were on the holy mountain of God; you walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones. 15 You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, till iniquity was found in you. 16 By the abundance of your trading you became filled with violence within, and you sinned; therefore I cast you as a profane thing out of the mountain of God; and I destroyed you, O covering cherub, from the midst of the fiery stones. 17 Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor . . ." Ezekiel 28:12

Under the figure of "King of Tyrus," Ezekiel declares that this great created being "had the seal of perfection, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty." Ezekiel 28:12–19 describes Satan’s original state as the anointed cherub who was not only a created being, but created perfect (vss. 12-13). He enjoyed the highest position and honor in the presence of God (28:14, 16). Further, Isaiah spoke of him as Lucifer, “star of the morning , son of the dawn” - Isaiah 14:12-15.He was on the holy mountain of God and every precious stone was his covering. He was set there as "the anointed covering cherub" by God and walked up and down in the midst of stones of fire. He was perhaps the appointed guardian of the holiness of God, probably over this original planet earth. The inspired record says, "Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee" - Ezekiel. 28:12-15.

Scriptures relating to Lucifer/Satan's fall:

But what exactly was the character or nature of Satan’s iniquity? As suggested by 1 Timothy 3:6-7 and Ezekiel 28:17, though created perfect by God (Ezek. 28:13-15), it was conceit or pride that welled up in his heart because of his beauty and high position that led to arrogant aspirations and to his sin and fall. In Isaiah 14:12-15 and in Ezekiel 28:12-19, we have a remarkable account of the original place which Satan once had as "Lucifer, son of the morning." His fall from this original, exalted place, of perhaps the greatest of created angelic beings, is given in these Scriptures. These arrogant aspirations are described for us in Isaiah 14:12-17 : pride, selfwill, iniquity, rebellion, and violence are the reasons. Because of his pride and aspirations to be like God, he became God’s chief adversary (Heb. Satan). After this, he is never again called by any of these prestigious titles. Instead, he is called by terms that reflect his fallen character and hostility to God and men, like liar, murderer, Satan (adversary), the evil one, Abaddon (destruction), Apollyon (destroyer), Belial (worthless), serpent, and dragon.

Scotus, however points out that this sin was not pride properly so called, but should rather be described as a species of spiritual lust.

Although nothing definite can be known as to the precise nature of the probation of the angels and the manner in which many of them fell, many theologians have conjectured, with some show of probability, that the mystery of the Divine Incarnation was revealed to them, that they saw that a nature lower than their own was to be hypostatically united to the Person of God the Son, and that all the hierarchy of heaven must bow in adoration before the majesty of the Incarnate Word; and this, it is supposed, was the occasion of the pride of Lucifer.

Furthermore, we learn from Ezekiel 28 that Lucifer engaged in a multitude of traffic, which means "going about." He is said to have filled heaven with violence and rebellion.

"Thou has defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic"

Thus Lucifer instigated violence and rebellion among the heavenly hosts before man was created, and those who followed him became his angels or demons. Seeking to overthrow God and rule heaven, Lucifer assembled an army of apostate angels and initiated a war in heaven.

In the book of Revelation we read about a war in heaven between Michael and the angels who remained loyal to God and the dragon, "called the Devil, and Satan," and his angels. Then Satan and his angels were defeated by Michael, and were thrown down from heaven to hell.

“And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. And the dragon and his angels waged war, and they were not strong enough, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven. And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.” Revelation 12:7-9

The Five “I Wills” of Rebellion

Isaiah points us to five “I wills” coming from the proud and boastful heart of Satan that describe the nature of his aspiration (Isa. 14:13-14). In each of these “I wills” Satan pitted his will against the will of God. He substituted his will for God’s will and, significantly, these five statements expressed by Satan manifest the very essence of sin: it is the will of the creature set against the will and appointment of the Creator.

Satan's "I Wills":

I will ascend to heaven.

I will raise my throne above the stars of God.

I will sit on the mount of the assembly in the recesses of the north.

This describes Satan’s ambition to control all the affairs of the universe as the assembly of Babylonian gods supposedly did. Often in Scripture, mountain and hills refer to authority or the right to rule.

I will ascend above the heights of the clouds.

According to Exodus 16:10 and Revelation 19:1, clouds are often associated with God’s glory and presence. This “I will” expressed Satan’s desire to usurp the glory that belonged to God.

I will make myself like the Most High.

Lucifer was not satisfied with the exalted place he had in the creation of God. Ezekiel says, "Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness" (Ezek. 28:17). So he purposed to exalt himself and his throne and aimed to be like God Himself. Note the contradiction in Satan’s own thinking here. To become like God was first of all to admit that he was not God. He was only a created being, one created by the Creator.

Isaiah 2:2 reads:

“Now it will come about that in the last days, the mountain of the house of the Lord will be established as the chief of the mountains, and will be raised above the hills; and all the nations will stream to it.”

This anticipates Messiah’s rule or kingdom, called here “the mountain of the house of the Lord,” and all the other kingdoms, mountains and hills, will be under His kingdom. So this “I will” of Satan expressed his determination to rule over the affairs of the entire created universe.

Pentecost writes:

“When Lucifer said, “I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,” he was saying, “I will take to myself a greater glory than belongs to God Himself.” You will remember that Ezekiel described the beauty and the glory that belonged to Lucifer in terms of the sun shining on polished gems. But the glory that belonged to Lucifer was not inherently his; it was a reflected glory. God, who is the author of glory, God, who is the all glorious One, revealed his glory through the work that came from His hand.… How insane the thinking of this one that he could add glory to the infinite glory of God. It suggests that there was a deficiency in the glory of God and that Lucifer could complete that which was lacking.…”

Here his counterfeit is crystal clear. Satan wanted to be like, not unlike, God. The name Elyon for God stresses God’s strength and sovereignty (Gen. 14:18). Satan wanted to be as powerful as God. He wanted to exercise the authority and control in this world that rightfully belongs only to God. His sin was a direct challenge to the power and authority of God.

Alright it's PEP TIME boys and girls. WTF is peptime?

Peptime is when I remind you guys that these sick Mother-F-ckers are in the middle of ****ing over our entire country! These sick, twisted, satanic worshipping, bold face lying, crackpot sniffing, black cloak wearing, weird hat ritualistic sons of bitches are in the process as we speak of conducting their business as usual.

And these people will never let up! Until they are forced to! So that means neither can we. The minute we let up on these bastards is the minute our World falls into Hell. Is that what we fricken want?

First of all, they won't publicly display their secrets! The fact that they are too chicken shit to show the rest of the World what they are doing in the shadows shows me that they are conieving little devils who care nothing more than keeping their secrets in the family so to speak, and that they can say whatever they want to because they know that their asses are covered!

Time for people to get up and realize that what people say means nothing.

Guess what guys, I was born in a little town called winnetika and my father was a hero in my eyes because of all the service he put into the World helping little children who couldn't read and write. He devoted his time to the World to help them all get better educations and he raised my family the way a father should. I received honors in school because I was a good student and I have been an overachiever all my life. I now live in a cozy little cottage with my two sons and I am living the American Dream.

Guess what folks....I just lied to you guys! Bold face. But my intention was not to lie...it was to expose the truth about people who do! WORDS MEAN NOTHING IF THE ACTIONS DON'T MATCH UP. IT"S PEOPLES ACTIONS THAT MEAN EVERYTHING.....WORDS ONLY GO AS FAR AS THE EAR. THEY PUT NOTHING INTO ACTION....

No...I was bullshitting you guys the entire time with that. Just like Bush does when he gets on TV in front of the podium. People lie everyday, right in front of all you guys, in your real lives, and they do it through their teeth, and you can tell they are lying before they even admit it. So why in the HELL DO WE KEEP BELIEVING POLITICIANS ON TV WHO NONE OF US HAVE EVER EVEN MET? It's a f-ckin joke.

I did not grow up in some friggen town called winettika, my dad was an alchoholic who would barely ever come to the dinner table. He left us when I was young so my mom could raise us by herself. And she did a damn good job.

Thats the REAL truth. Only, none of you guys would have known the difference. In fact, there is no way for you to tell whether I am lying to you right now or not.

Thats how f-cked up our whole system is right now guys. The politicians say one thing, and the people buy into it!! And laziness on behalf of the people to look into the facts has been part of the reason that these people have been in power as long as they have!

Again. Never EVER EVER EVER EVER go by what a person says. Go by what they do. If you only go by what they say, they will get you everytime.

So we can't stop exposing these monkeys. The minute we do, the World falls into "Dumbo mode again", where the majority of the people laugh and get drunk and have sex while meanwhile these freaks, FREAKS, go out there and do horrible things to Human Beings and to the planet. WAKE THE F-CK UP PEOPLE! THIS SH-T IT DISGUSTING. It's time we just said, "Anyone who isn't going to expose what they are doing to the public, does not deserve an ounce of credit with what they say to the rest of the World."

And once we make that statement and stick by it like we have some balls! Then we will start to see things change. And for the fricken better. Boy, what a thought. Things could actually get better? Damn skippy.....damn damn damn damn skippy.

PS - This message is not intended for anyone on this board who is already in the know. It is not intended in any way shape or form to do anything other than WAKE people the f-ck up from their "disneyland" so we can start to take some action. Viewer discretion advised.

Some people might be saying....Nuke...that last post was "out of character" for you.

Are you serious? Whens the last time someone had the balls to look President Bush in his face and call HIM...to his face... out of character?

Albert Pike (July 13, 1889):

"Lucifer is god...Pure philisophic religion is the belief that Lucifer is the god of light and the god of good."

Albert Pike (Morals and Dogma):

"The Masonic religion should by all of us initiates of the highest degrees be maintained in the purity of the Luciferian Doctrine."

Albert Pike (On why the average mason doesn't know what his group represents):

"They do not know because we lie to them."

People....what more did the man need to say in order for you guys to realize that HE WAS LAUGHING IN THE WORLD'S FACE!!!! And disrespecting the people of the World to boot!

And you guys say? Who cares? Who the hell is Albert-Pike?

People!!! Albert Pike was a friggen Civil War General! He was one of the architects of the Klu-Klux-Klan!

There is a ****** statue of Albert Pike on Federal Property in Washington D.C.! And he is the only Confederate General who has one there!!

So what am I telling you? I'm telling you that these Masonic freaks including our President and the people in Washington have erected a statue of this man right in front of our faces! And put it on the soil of our muther-f-ing capital! What more do people need to see before we understand that THE TOP LEADERS OF OUR COUNTRY ARE CORRUPT! And they are spitting in our faces. Spitting...in.....our....faces.

Some more interesting facts that people might be interested in:

1. Fifty of the original fifty-six signers of the Declaration of Independence were Masons who were also involved in Rosicrucianism, astrology, secret societies, numerology, Tarot, and the Cabala.

2. Albert Pike was a Prince Adept of Freemasonry, and also a Palladist, which is a secret society that openly worships Lucifer.

3. All of the Boston Tea Party participating members were Freemasons who belonged to the St. Andrews Lodge in Boston.

4. Benjamin Franklin (Who belonged to the HellFire club which is a Satanic worshipping organization) joined his first American Masonic Lodge in 1731 - which was the Lodge of St. John in Philadelphia. He also printed the first Masonic book ever released in America called Constitutions. He was also a Grand Master of the Nine Sisters Mason Lodge in Paris.

5. Our first President of the United States - George Washington - was also a high-ranking Mason. And thanks to Albert Pike (The Satanist), we all now know what it means to be a "High-ranking Mason".

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I try to take this alot more lightharted than KD and Ush

What can I say, I cannot suffer fools. Maybe it's a character flaw, I dunno?

Originally posted by Mr Parker
thats why I have chosen to talk with you about it unlike DOG because you at least have some things that I think have merit as well like the point about the metal being out of the builiding.

That is great that you think Gav has something of merit to say, but being as he often agrees with me or says the same things, you have by default given credence to my arguments.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Well, I respect KD as a poster and in my opinion, he is very rarely wrong when it comes to talking to Deano about this or that

Thank you kindly.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
wonder how much longer it will be before Kharma Dog comes on and says-thats no credible evidence,only a moron would believe any of that,blah blah blah blah blah. 🙄

How about you comment on the fact where I actually have proven Deano's sources or information to be wrong. He in fact admitted that he did absolutely no research into the character of General Stubblebine and that it was not only counter productive to his cause, but rather irresponsible and silly to post that link.

You, as the parrot you are, said

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Thanks for posting that deano.maybe next time fianna decides to come on here and insult me because I state there is no proof a plane hit the wall,she will see how stupid she sounded saying I was retarded.I will take the word over a general anyday of the year over what some internet geek says.

You have failed to acknowledge that you put your faith in more misinformation and the people who peddle it. I said only a moron would believe some of this stuff. I will add that only a complete idiot would believe some of this info, especially when countered with information that shows what they believe to be complete fabrication or bullsh*t.

fear

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

fear

O.K......I'll admit......that was funny.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
What can I say, I cannot suffer fools. Maybe it's a character flaw, I dunno?

Originally posted by KharmaDog
That is great that you think Gav has something of merit to say, but being as he often agrees with me or says the same things, you have by default given credence to my arguments

See, once again KD has proven his worth as a poster in this thread, he is able to take what you said and put it into a bigger picture, which is in his(and likely Ush's) favour...

You can't gain respect as a poster if instead of reasoning and occasionally either understanding or accepting another person's point you choose to insult them without at any point putting up an argument to defend your point, (When I say "you" I don't mean you, Mr Parker, exclusivly, I am speaking in general...

Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Could only be one of the two right?

Keep in mind though that both the Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans mention Horus.

And that both Christians and Muslims mention Jesus.

Even Native Americans describe a man like Jesus coming to America and walking amongst their people.

India has records of the same.

Jesus....Horus.....so similar....both described so peacefully, both without negativity.....makes a person wonder.

You could be right, but Deano has a point, however, who are we to try and reason with the motives of God?

Originally posted by NuclearWinter
[B]Some more interesting facts that people might be interested in:

1. Fifty of the original fifty-six signers of the Declaration of Independence were Masons who were also involved in Rosicrucianism, astrology, secret societies, numerology, Tarot, and the Cabala.

2. Albert Pike was a Prince Adept of Freemasonry, and also a Palladist, which is a secret society that openly worships Lucifer.

3. All of the Boston Tea Party participating members were Freemasons who belonged to the St. Andrews Lodge in Boston.

4. Benjamin Franklin (Who belonged to the HellFire club which is a Satanic worshipping organization) joined his first American Masonic Lodge in 1731 - which was the Lodge of St. John in Philadelphia. He also printed the first Masonic book ever released in America called Constitutions. He was also a Grand Master of the Nine Sisters Mason Lodge in Paris.

5. Our first President of the United States - George Washington - was also a high-ranking Mason. And thanks to Albert Pike (The Satanist), we all now know what it means to be a "High-ranking Mason". [/B]

It has never been secret that Mason's do fill high ranking postions and is an extremely powerful and influential fraternity, but this doesn't mean it is in any way "evil" and I have seen no evidence that says it is a satanic organisation! It is picked on by conspiracy theorists because it is branded as a secret society, however it isn't, I am able to find out anything about the FreeMasons if I want, infact I think I shall email my local lodge and ask them for a statement on this Illuminati and Satanic worship issue, it is only right that we hear from them!

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Actually he said (and please correct me if I am wrong Ush) that intense heat (intense meaning heat that doesn't need to be enough to melt steel) weakens the structural abilities of that steel to varying extents based on the heat achieved. The weakening of that steel (to even a minimal degree) combined with the impact of the crash and the isolated stresses of those impacts cause a weak point in a building that (beacuase of height) was built so that it may disperse appplied stresses. With these stresses (combined heat and impact) focused on one specific area and applied to a maximum effect a structural breaking point was reached in a confined area. The buildings' very structural natures compunded the weakened area and a cascade failure took place.

But the steel was melted many pictures have shown that there was molten magama on ground zero;how can jet fuel do that?

Originally posted by KharmaDog

An architectural/structural cascade failure on any building, never mind a building this sizem, would be pretty immediate. When built, buildings this size are design that if they are to fail, should fall in on themselves. It is IMMEDIATE . It doesn't happen in slow motion like in movies. The designers of these buildings should be proud that the devestatin was limited as these things topled how they were designed to (in a worst case scenario).

So because a strcutual engineer thinks he can rewrite physics you agree, the building fell with no resistance. had it been falliing from the weight of the floors than how could it free fall like that.

Originally posted by KharmaDog

Go to a steel factory and look and see what type of heat is needed to reduce steel to molten metal. Explosives are not going to get anything that hot. You just pissed all over your own theory. Also, you are looking at the testimonies of very few people who where in a tragic situation that know little of the physics involved in the event. I'd love to see the pictures of molten metal if you have them.

And when did I claim a bomb as the suspect, and since when do all bombs have a universal temperture?

Originally posted by KharmaDog

Neither can explosives or inciderary devices, so your point is moot..

Originally posted by KharmaDog

In fact, they do.

Because you believe they do, like a good sheep you are.

Originally posted by KharmaDog

The towers did not fall "too fast" and resistance is not an issue. Stand in front of a car doing 45 miles an hour, how much resistance do you offer? How much do you effect the speed of the car? Now multiple the weight and speed of that car by 100,000 and then some. Not much is going to resist that power.

Wow your comparing a car to an object falling, i guess those floors were made of sand.

Originally posted by KharmaDog

The evidence you have posted so far has been flimsey at best.

As opposed to your evidence, don't are backed up by some guys opinion.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Because you believe they do, like a good sheep you are.

You have just lost the right to post here ever again...we don't call people sheep here anymore, as far as I am concerned, that's bashing!