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Originally posted by koolruningz
Thats the only problem i have with Vince, you dont quit on your team no matter how bad they are.
I read that he thinks Kobe's 81pt game will send a bad message to kids, well sorry Vince but if anyone is sending negative messages to kids its you when you dial it in because you team sucks and even go as far as to tell the opposing team what play your team is gonna run.
Kobe could easily do the same thing this year, the Lakers are probably not far off the Raptors without him. But no, he gives it all every time he is on the court. Call him what you like but nobody could question his heart and commitment, the same can not be said for Carter.

about vince telling the other team the raps play, thats all bullshit... think about it... that game was in november against seattle... y do u think that came up a day after the trade was made in december and when vince was getting so much bad publicity??? every1 knew that was a lie because if it was true it would have been shown over and over again, which it wasnt.

If you say so man, im just reporting what i've heard. I didnt realise you were there.

well tanjot, like him as much as you want. but for me, the ability and talent of a player goes hand in hand with his ego as to whether i think someones a great player. and i wouldnt have said that if thats how it didnt appear. i'm not bitter he left the raps, its the way he left. if he'd have been a great player he would have given his all til the last day of being with the franchise.

Originally posted by koolruningz
If you say so man, im just reporting what i've heard. I didnt realise you were there.

chuck swirsky and leo rautins didnt believe it when they heard it, because there is no good reason to.... thats like saying the media goes crazy about kobe's 81 points like a month after he does it.... it makes no sense.

Originally posted by tanjot
chuck swirsky and leo rautins didnt believe it when they heard it, because there is no good reason to.... thats like saying the media goes crazy about kobe's 81 points like a month after he does it.... it makes no sense.

The question is, why would the Sonics make it up? There is no good reason to do that.

Originally posted by tanjot
chuck swirsky and leo rautins didnt believe it when they heard it, because there is no good reason to.... thats like saying the media goes crazy about kobe's 81 points like a month after he does it.... it makes no sense.

No its not really like that at all. 😕

so answer this, if this game was in november, y didnt this come up in november? y a MONTH later in december A DAY AFTER VINCE'S TRADE?
because its just bad publicity, thats the way the media makes their money...

Originally posted by koolruningz
No its not really like that at all. 😕

Tanjot - I'm not completely sure. How about this for a possibility:
The Sonics were in disbelief and thought that Vince was trying to confuse them with mind games. Then reports came out that Vince was dogging it. It then made sense to them and they stepped forward and said that they saw him try to give them the game. Just a theory.

Either way, why would the Sonic players make it up?

again, a possibilty, the sonics player was paid to say the stuff he did.... u never know, but honestly just think about it, if it was true it would have been shown over AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN, which it wasnt because not many people believed it. chuck swirsky and leo rautins said it themselves... almost exactly the same thing ive been saying. thats like saying...the media reports of about isiah rider kidnapping someone come up like a month after he goes to jail... it just doesnt make any sense.

Originally posted by tanjot
the media reports of about isiah rider kidnapping someone come up like a month after he goes to jail... it just doesnt make any sense.

First, thats way different because police reports aren't something of uncertainty unlike the Sonics trying to figure out if Vince was doing a mind game or was trying screw his team.

As for being paid? Who would pay the Sonics players to say something like that? I guess when it comes down to it, I believe three players who are not known for making stuff up over I guy who was knowingly dogging it.

Originally posted by Myth
As for being paid? Who would pay the Sonics players to say something like that?

Didnt you know Myth? its all a plot by David Stern to get Carter thrown out of the league.

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tanjot... Vince was nowhere near deserving to start on the all-star team last year, or be on the team for that matter. By the all-star break he was only averaging about 20 ppg, 4 rpg, 4apg and no defense per game. Do you really think he should've been on it over guys like DWade, Paul Pierce and even Michael Redd? No I don't think so. In fact a guy by the name of Steve Francis who had a way better season up until that point, was left off the ballot, and shoudl've been on the team over Carter.

Francis wasn't left off the ballot. However, I still overall agree with you.

Dunno why i said left off the ballot, I meant, screwed by the coaches for not picking him.

Originally posted by FabledHero
tanjot... Vince was nowhere near deserving to start on the all-star team last year, or be on the team for that matter. By the all-star break he was only averaging about 20 ppg, 4 rpg, 4apg and no defense per game. Do you really think he should've been on it over guys like DWade, Paul Pierce and even Michael Redd? No I don't think so. In fact a guy by the name of Steve Francis who had a way better season up until that point, was left off the ballot, and shoudl've been on the team over Carter.

i dont know where u got those stats from, going into the all star game vince was averaging around 24ppg, and finished the season with an average of 27.5ppg. the way he was playing, breaking records within his first month in new jersey for most consecutive 20 point games at like 22, and scoring back to back 40 point games, winning player of the week like 3 times, and winning player of the month for december, vince EASILY deserved to be in the starting lineup last year over wade and redd.

I'm wondering where each of you got those stats. Vince averaged 15.9 points for Raptors. Increasing your stats by 8 ppg doesn't sound right to me in a month change that far into the season. Also, I wouldn't put a slacker on the all-star team if they averaged 15.9 through 3 months or however long he was on the Raptors.

Uh Tanjot you're officially an idiot.

Check NBA.com

As you can see he finished the season with 24.5 ppg.

Your idiotic brain merely looked at his stats with NJ, which was 27.5 ppg and left out his abysmal 15.9 ppg with Toronto.

I got those numbers because i do recall them at the time. i remember the sports writers at the time were bashing Vince hardcore, and the whole fan voting thing, since a guy like him would even get on. vince played 20 games with Toronto and 57 with NJ. Teams get in about 50 games before allstar break, that gives almost 30 games with NJ, b4 all-star break, taht's how my numbers are perfect. My memory is backed up by statistics, need I say more?

Also, the teams are determined before they hit 50 games. 😉

Originally posted by FabledHero
Uh Tanjot you're officially an idiot.

Check NBA.com

As you can see he finished the season with 24.5 ppg.

Your idiotic brain merely looked at his stats with NJ, which was 27.5 ppg and left out his abysmal 15.9 ppg with Toronto.

I got those numbers because i do recall them at the time. i remember the sports writers at the time were bashing Vince hardcore, and the whole fan voting thing, since a guy like him would even get on. vince played 20 games with Toronto and 57 with NJ. Teams get in about 50 games before allstar break, that gives almost 30 games with NJ, b4 all-star break, taht's how my numbers are perfect. My memory is backed up by statistics, need I say more?

Fabled Hero as u have shown ur the biggest crackhead alive. vince averaged 24.5ppg ON THE SEASON. NOT WITH THE NETS. HIS AVERAGE WITH THE RAPTORS BROUGHT HIS NETS AVERAGE DOWN. with the nets he averaged 27.5ppg. now u can go on nba.com and c that for urself, idiot.