Silver Surfer vs. Black Adam

Started by abhilegend31 pages

Originally posted by carver9
Hey Abhi, what is this? Why is his hand on the wall and why is it lighting up, turning green where his hand is at?

https://ibb.co/K2pfM7t

If you say it's nothing, I'll be asking for the issue number next. Thanks


A green Lantern's hand is turning green? You don't say lol.

Green Lantern Corps 16, knock yourself out.

Going by comicvine logic, Hal shook an infinite universe by just forging his ring.

https://imgur.io/a/1yYEx22

Emotional spectrum is an infinite Web of planets and realms.

https://imgur.com/a/b1CqMjs

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer maxed out his power at pushing a moon. Marvel top tiers struggle routinely at moon level or even below.
Meh, Kyle could create a black hole inside Solaris too. He just made him go supernova and caught him inside his construct.

This ain't comicvine boy. Surfer is hardly at a green Lantern's level here.

DC high tiers routinely struggle with planetary/moon level feats as well, this isn't just a Marvel thing. Although Marvel high tiers do seem to have more explicit planet busting/moving feats from what I've seen.

As for Surfer being hardly at GL's level here, he's actually above their level, considering how quickly Surfer KO'd him.

https://imgur.com/a/ZguhaXS

I'm not sure what draining Oan energy from Thanos has to do with this, cosidering he needed Surfer's help to contain it. Too bad he couldn't drain Surfer when they fought.

Plus Kyle's record against other Marvel high tiers isn't very good, he was getting his attacks no-sold and constructs shattered by the likes of Wonder Man (Superman had to save Kyle), and then him and Wonder Woman get downed by a surprise shot from Iron Man, whereas a lot of other high tiers have tanked a similar attack.

Wonder Man: https://imgur.com/a/xKCrITg

Iron Man: https://imgur.com/a/3BNYasU

Welcome back Albert🙂

please don't ban him

Hey don't see why he should be, unless he reverts to his trolling ways.

I'm not this Albert guy, you can do an IP check or whatever to confirm, I just made this account very quickly to view the images on the threads, and didn't really bother to pick a good username. I've been respectful so far, and I'm not trolling, I'm simply trying to argue in good faith.

I can make a new account to comment if that's what you guys want.

Originally posted by Test123
DC high tiers routinely struggle with planetary/moon level feats as well, this isn't just a Marvel thing. Although Marvel high tiers do seem to have more explicit planet busting/moving feats from what I've seen.

As for Surfer being hardly at GL's level here, he's actually above their level, considering how quickly Surfer KO'd him.

https://imgur.com/a/ZguhaXS

I'm not sure what draining Oan energy from Thanos has to do with this, cosidering he needed Surfer's help to contain it. Too bad he couldn't drain Surfer when they fought.

Plus Kyle's record against other Marvel high tiers isn't very good, he was getting his attacks no-sold and constructs shattered by the likes of Wonder Man (Superman had to save Kyle), and then him and Wonder Woman get downed by a surprise shot from Iron Man, whereas a lot of other high tiers have tanked a similar attack.

Wonder Man: https://imgur.com/a/xKCrITg

Iron Man: https://imgur.com/a/3BNYasU

You know crossovers aren't allowed as evidence right?

If you knew that then why still mention them as evidence?

Originally posted by h1a8
You know crossovers aren't allowed as evidence right?

If you knew that then why still mention them as evidence?

From what I read the rules said crossovers like DC vs Marvel are unusable in some cases, and the instance I linked wasn't even fanvoted so I think that case should be allowed.

Originally posted by Test123
I'm not this Albert guy, you can do an IP check or whatever to confirm, I just made this account very quickly to view the images on the threads, and didn't really bother to pick a good username. I've been respectful so far, and I'm not trolling, I'm simply trying to argue in good faith.

I can make a new account to comment if that's what you guys want.

Pay them no attention.

It's not.

Can't think of a single Marvel/DC cross-over that is allowed on KMC.

Regardless of their canonicity status in either company.

Other inter-company cross-overs might be a different case, sometimes.

Originally posted by Test123
From what I read the rules said crossovers like DC vs Marvel are unusable in some cases, and the instance I linked wasn't even fanvoted so I think that case should be allowed.
It was a mod ruling a while ago. No DC vs Marvel crossovers can be used as evidence.

Originally posted by h1a8
It was a mod ruling a while ago. No DC vs Marvel crossovers can be used as evidence.

Seems like the rules should be updated then, I'm just going off what I read there.

No Non-canon Sources

Non-canon sources are invalid for evidence. With rare exceptions, comics not in continuity such as Elseworlds, What Ifs, or alternate universes are not used for evidence in debates of a particular mainstream character.

A canon source is one that is regarded as being 'in continuity'. In the example of Star Trek; instances from the series and movies can be used, but books are definitely out. Comic book crossovers are usually unusable as they ignore common sense most of the time (DC vs. Marvel is certainly unusable in some cases in our debates!).

This includes JLA/Avengers. Canon or not, people just aren't going to agree on it in most cases. Besides, there should be plenty of other comics with which to make your point.

I thought Test read the rules......?

"DC vs. Marvel is certainly unusable in some cases in our debates"

"Comic book crossovers are usually unusable"

Notice how it says some cases and usually unusable. If there's a hard ban on all instances that's fine, but it should be updated.

Originally posted by Test123
"DC vs. Marvel is certainly unusable in some cases in our debates"

"Comic book crossovers are usually unusable"

Notice how it says some cases and usually unusable. If there's a hard ban on all instances that's fine, but it should be updated.

Where's that Surfer/Kyle scan from?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Where's that Surfer/Kyle scan from?

DCvM, and I'm wondering which cases it would be allowed in.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Isn't the Warworld Hal performed stated to be a supernova?

https://ibb.co/7SdXJ6d

And since the previous issue we also saw the explosion Hal created cover more than just Warworld
https://ibb.co/zmTWS8r
https://ibb.co/H2L4Tfr
https://ibb.co/PzSwrkt
https://ibb.co/hHYnPqH

TL: DR
From what I remembered( I read it a long time ago) the impression I got is Hal created a supernova that destroyed Warworld. I.E more than planetary levels

Also Hal's ring residual energy also able to blow Mogo IIRC?

At least planetary levels. Whether or nto Warworld is the size of a planet or a moon, I consider blowing up Warworld a planetary feat at least.

While my initial impression was that he created a supernova as well with his sacrifice, in the beginning of the next issue, you see Sector 0's star was not destroyed along w/ Warworld. So maybe not quite supernova??? I dunno.

Either way, Hal was connected to the green spectrum of willpower in an odd way due to his wearing the Krona gauntlet beforehand. He nearly died in a 1v12 fight against 2x empowered Sinestro Corps members but for Soranik Natu... but if allowed to concentrate, he could defeat Parallax-empowered Sinestro and blow up Warworld.