Originally posted by Cosmo KramerSome of the things you said are true, others seem to be the complete reverse of the truth. . .
My boy DareDevil can take Batman. Wolverine is gonna be a ***** though since he has very few skills and will keep coming and getting beemed and beaten. I dont think there is anything wrong with calling someone gay, I think its more rude to get insulted.
Originally posted by Cosmo KramerProbably.
My boy DareDevil can take Batman.
Originally posted by Cosmo KramerNot sure what this is. . .
Wolverine is gonna be a ***** though
Originally posted by Cosmo KramerWha? Wolverine is a 7 in Fighting ability.
since he has very few skills
Originally posted by Cosmo KramerYeah.
and will keep coming and getting beemed and beaten.
Originally posted by Cosmo KramerThese are like totally reversed. . .
I dont think there is anything wrong with calling someone gay, I think its more rude to get insulted.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
But I just don't think I've ever gotten my true question out there for you guys. It's not canon, I understand this. But for something that's as miniscule as the intensity of Cyclops's optic blasts...should that really matter?Are you trying to say that UU Wolvie is weaker physically than 616 Wolvie? Or that Cyke's optic blasts are more more powerful than in 616? I mean, when it's just something like this, not a question about EXTREMELY key events that take place...what does it really matter what universe it is?
Originally posted by pr1983
I know what you mean mmx, but the point is...cyke is younger by ten or so years, so maybe his power had grown stronger in those years...
and as for logan, hasnt his healing been more impressive in ultimate?
Sorry, I think you just misunderstood what I was writing.
I was asking to see if Cresh or Jin thought that Cyke's optic blasts are stronger in Ultimate than they are in 616. I don't believe they're any more potent than they are in 616. I just want to see why they think that just because it's Ultimate, that this fact is so very skewed. I know he's only 19, but that's not really relevant to what I'm trying to figure out from them.
And yes, Logan's healing factor has been quite absurdly powerful in Ultimate. Same age as teh 616 version, too. And more lethal as well.
Originally posted by pr1983
hes barely 17...and i believe in 616 his blasts are more powerfull...
Actually, at the beginning of Ultimate, he's 18 I believe. And, ya know, over the course of the series, though it's been a couple years, one would argue that he's aged about a year to a year and a half.
I'd say he's about 19 right now.
Okay, and that's a fine thing to believe, pr. Really. I don't deny it really. Nor do I really agree. I'm indifferent because his optic blasts seem to be pretty much the same power to me. I mean, of course he can always change it's intensity himself. But I'm talking about a basic blast.
I'm more curious to see if Cresh or Jin believe his optic blasts to be stronger or Wolverine to be far weaker in Ultimate.
Originally posted by Cosmo KramerYou guys should know huh?
My boy DareDevil can take Batman. Wolverine is gonna be a ***** though since he has very few skills and will keep coming and getting beemed and beaten. I dont think there is anything wrong with calling someone gay, I think its more rude to get insulted.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Actually, at the beginning of Ultimate, he's 18 I believe. And, ya know, over the course of the series, though it's been a couple years, one would argue that he's aged about a year to a year and a half.I'd say he's about 19 right now.
Okay, and that's a fine thing to believe, pr. Really. I don't deny it really. Nor do I really agree. I'm indifferent because his optic blasts seem to be pretty much the same power to me. I mean, of course he can always change it's intensity himself. But I'm talking about a basic blast.
I'm more curious to see if Cresh or Jin believe his optic blasts to be stronger or Wolverine to be far weaker in Ultimate.
about the age thing... i remember colossus whining because cyclops was younger than all of them and was the leader... the exact age escapes me though...
i think his blasts are weaker...
but i think ultimate wolverine is pretty damn strong... as strong as if not stronger than his 616 counterpart....
then there's the fact that in that scan, its not a big gap, cyke is hitting him point blank, so its gonna sting...
Originally posted by pr1983
about the age thing... i remember colossus whining because cyclops was younger than all of them and was the leader... the exact age escapes me though...i think his blasts are weaker...
but i think ultimate wolverine is pretty damn strong... as strong as if not stronger than his 616 counterpart....
then there's the fact that in that scan, its not a big gap, cyke is hitting him point blank, so its gonna sting...
So...what you're trying to say...is that UU Cyclops's blasts are weaker. And UU Wolverine is stronger and more durable.
Okay.
So then, I pose this challenge.
Since UU Cyke's blasts are weaker, and UU Wolverine is stronger/more durable, yet Cyclops continues to beat the hell out of him anyway with them...
...Then would it then be wrong of me to assume that 616 Cyke's blasts are far stronger and that 616 Wolvie is not as strong/durable?
And, if this is so, wouldn't that make Cyke's blasts even more deadly (not really, but you get the point) against Wolvie?
Yes, yes it would.
Originally posted by King KAM
how bout they both put up their powers and go at it in a round of fistacuffs....wolverine 10/10
That's just it. Wolverine can't put his powers away. He'll heal from every blow Cyclops gives him in a hand to hand fight.
And Cyke is definitely no slouch in the hand to hand department. He wouldn't win a straight hand to hand fight, but he would definitely get his licks in. You underestimate his fighting ability.
This is stupid to debate anyway, seeing as Cyke is smart enough to not fight him hand to hand, but to blast him the hell away, knocking him out for several minutes.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
That's just it. Wolverine can't put his powers away. He'll heal from every blow Cyclops gives him in a hand to hand fight.And Cyke is definitely no slouch in the hand to hand department. He wouldn't win a straight hand to hand fight, but he would definitely get his licks in. You underestimate his fighting ability.
This is stupid to debate anyway, seeing as Cyke is smart enough to not fight him hand to hand, but to blast him the hell away, knocking him out for several minutes.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
So...what you're trying to say...is that UU Cyclops's blasts are weaker. And UU Wolverine is stronger and more durable.Okay.
So then, I pose this challenge.
Since UU Cyke's blasts are weaker, and UU Wolverine is stronger/more durable, yet Cyclops continues to beat the hell out of him anyway with them...
...Then would it then be wrong of me to assume that 616 Cyke's blasts are far stronger and that 616 Wolvie is not as strong/durable?
And, if this is so, wouldn't that make Cyke's blasts even more deadly (not really, but you get the point) against Wolvie?
Yes, yes it would.
thats the point i was making...
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Nothing. Just as I suspected.
huh? 😕
Originally posted by King KAM
no, cyke is a trained fighter versus a effing machine, cyke doesnt get his blows in he gets owned, he is outclassed wolverine runs his dangeroom simulations a the highest difficulties without an optic blast and still whips ass.
cyclops DESIGNED most of said simulations...
Originally posted by pr1983
thats the point i was making...huh? 😕
cyclops DESIGNED most of said simulations...
Woah, woah, Pr. Don't worry, dude. I wasn't against you here. You were agreeing with me, I know. I was saying that "Nothing" part to Jinzin and Cresh, who have yet to answer my question.
Don't worry, dude. You and I are cool.