Set the Record Straight

ok i know this might be a little pointless but, it needs to be done.

-SIDIOUS LOST TO MACE, not on purpose, he lost (Keyword Lost)

-Dooku lost to anakin because he was told to, that victory had nothing to do with anakin being stronger

- in the classics Skywalker could never beat Vader if he actually tried.

-Stop using midichlorains, age, and war experience arguements in one on one/whos is better duels

- although it pains me to say it, Luke and Leia were a mistake by Anakin
😂

- yoda didnt lose to sidious, it was a DRAW

- Dooku didnt lose to yoda, he had to run because of death star plans
(although i think he would he would lost in a rematch)

-Maul died because of his idiotic overconfidence, not because obi-wan is stronger

- Anakin fell to the darkside because of his inablilty to be satisfied, and his fear of failure. (feel free to add on to that)

ok thats all i can think of right now...........

feel free to add on things that need to be cleared up in this star wars universe.

also feel free to bash my veiws, but they come from other people's veiws as well, and some only require common sense.

Oh man, THANK YOU, I HATE it when people use midichlorians and war-experience as excuses.

And yes, Dooku still would have been f*cked if Yoda hadn't flipped.

Oi, not another one. It is pointless, and it has been done about a million times.

-Sidious lost on purpose.

-Dooku did lose to Anakin because he was told to play easy, as you say.

-Luke beat Vader fair and square.

-Midi-chlorians and age have no effect on anything except for connection to the Force and years training, and war experience just helps practice skills in combat, but not dueling.

-I doubt that; if he didn't want kids, I'm sure the Galaxy has an equivalent of birth control that's unstoppable

-Yoda lost to Sidious, because after the lightning burst, Yoda admitted his defeat.

-Dooku ran because Yoda was going to kill him if the duel went on any longer.

-Maul did die of overconfidence and arrogance, as you say.

-Anakin fell because of his fear, as you say, but not his inability to be satisfied. He was afraid of too many things.

Since we've had several of these before, this will probably be closed. *shrug*

ohhh it has oooppps, ok well lets consider this one and updated version.

Dooku ran because Yoda was going to kill him if the duel went on any longer.

well.....he would have lost, but i dont think thats why he ran. he had the plans to the death star, thats my veiw.

Meh, I don't think so. Sure, he had them, but I don't think he would care what happened to the plans if Yoda killed him.

maybe........

And why the hell can't we use war experience as an argument? Wars make you more powerful you know... They force you to train and fight..

-Maul died because of his idiotic overconfidence, not because obi-wan is stronger?

Maul was plain stupid!! There is this jedi flying over your head and still he gets cut in half by him? WTF??

- Anakin fell to the darkside because of his inablilty to be satisfied, and his fear of failure. (feel free to add on to that)

Anakin probably expected to much from his training and all (see how I can say probably instead of stating it like a fact as some people do?)

Pretty weird thread by the way.. We all know we are all entitled to our own opinion, no need to set some record straight, we all have our different views, although some people should accept it when they can't convince somebody, you may try, but don't get too upset or view them as fools.
I think that the versus forum gets a little out of hand sometimes by the way. Grrr.. I'm setting the record straight now..

It was Anakin's fears that brought him down, not his being 'held back.'

That was supposed to be made clear in the movie, but I thought it was a little stupid (i have a dream that you will die, oh my), I personally view it as Anakin being a whiny b!tch who wanted it all (and I want now!: queen) and thinking that Obi was holding him down. And those frustrations leading to this and that and to the dark side eventually.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Oi, not another one. It is pointless, and it has been done about a million times.

-Sidious lost on purpose.

-Dooku did lose to Anakin because he was told to play easy, as you say.

-Luke beat Vader fair and square.

-Midi-chlorians and age have no effect on anything except for connection to the Force and years training, and war experience just helps practice skills in combat, but not dueling.

-I doubt that; if he didn't want kids, I'm sure the Galaxy has an equivalent of birth control that's unstoppable

-Yoda lost to Sidious, because after the lightning burst, Yoda admitted his defeat.

-Dooku ran because Yoda was going to kill him if the duel went on any longer.

-Maul did die of overconfidence and arrogance, as you say.

-Anakin fell because of his fear, as you say, but not his inability to be satisfied. He was afraid of too many things.

Since we've had several of these before, this will probably be closed. *shrug*

-wrong
-right
-maybe

-maybe
-lol
-meh..
-maybe
-right
-right
-oh well..

i'm sorry but war experience is a big factor in duels. it shows just how good you are with a lightsaber compared to fighting driods.

Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
i'm sorry but war experience is a big factor in duels. it shows just how good you are with a lightsaber compared to fighting driods.

Exactly war experience matters a lot.

would have, could have, should have, might have, maybe....blahhhhh

Originally posted by Fishy
And why the hell can't we use war experience as an argument? Wars make you more powerful you know... They force you to train and fight..

Originally posted by overlord
-Maul died because of his idiotic overconfidence, not because obi-wan is stronger?

Maul was plain stupid!! There is this jedi flying over your head and still he gets cut in half by him? WTF??

- Anakin fell to the darkside because of his inablilty to be satisfied, and his fear of failure. (feel free to add on to that)

Anakin probably expected to much from his training and all (see how I can say probably instead of stating it like a fact as some people do?)

Pretty weird thread by the way.. We all know we are all entitled to our own opinion, no need to set some record straight, we all have our different views, although some people should accept it when they can't convince somebody, you may try, but don't get too upset or view them as fools.
I think that the versus forum gets a little out of hand sometimes by the way. Grrr.. I'm setting the record straight now..

i know im not right about some of the things i listed, like anakin's fall. but when i watch him thats what i see. honestly, he is never satisfied. when the council knighted him, put him on the council and didnt make him a master, he was still mad, he fliped out in front of the enitre concil. why be mad about that? hes a jedi knight but he is on the council with other masters. that definitely counts for something.

Originally posted by Tengu Man
you misunderstand what im getting at, i dont see how war experience; being a general, strategist, out on the battlfeild with a bunch of soldiers, helps you in a one on one duel. how it can it do that? does it help your lightsaber style, it most likely will increase your power in the force, but most one on one duels are fought with lightsabers. or a little both. but most of the time its lightsabers and some force powers here and theyre. im still not convinced war experience can help you in one on one duels.

what about frontline generals that are getting the action and killing lots of other force users and lightsaber duelists?

-SIDIOUS LOST TO MACE, not on purpose, he lost (Keyword Lost)

Being the fact why Sidious was weak one second and split Mace out of a window another second later. Windu was played out, son.

-Dooku lost to anakin because he was told to, that victory had nothing to do with anakin being stronger

This is true.

- in the classics Skywalker could never beat Vader if he actually tried.

This is akward. I could have sworn i saw Luke defeat Vader as he tried. Hmm..... Just a dream, i guess....

-Stop using midichlorains, age, and war experience arguements in one on one/whos is better duels

Midichlorians are nothing. Age and War experience are soemthing. Putting Midiclhorians with Age and War Experience is sad. Experience grants alot more than you would think. Age = Experience = Skill = Ownage.

- although it pains me to say it, Luke and Leia were a mistake by Anakin

- yoda didnt lose to sidious, it was a DRAW

100% Correct.

- Dooku didnt lose to yoda, he had to run because of death star plans
(although i think he would he would lost in a rematch)

As much as i love Dooku, the script for Episode II states that Yoda won out of sheer skill and Dooku ran out of the fact that he knew Yoda would defeat him.

-Maul died because of his idiotic overconfidence, not because obi-wan is stronger

Strength requires wisdom. Being a true imbodiment of Power requires more than Lightsaber skills and Physical attribute. Kenobi was stronger than Maul.

- Anakin fell to the darkside because of his inablilty to be satisfied, and his fear of failure. (feel free to add on to that)

There was many reasons for his fall. You only named two.