Xavier w/cerebra and on the mutant enhancing drug "kick" vs DC's telepaths.

Started by long pig5 pages

I don't doubt Prof is high level psi, but never to my knowledge did he or anyone else under herald level ever invade Galactus' mind when Galactus didn't want it.

Thanos can't even do that.

But a lot of people are forgetting that I said Xavier would be going up against the likes of MM, Darkseid and the others while Xavier has both Cerebra (the upgraded version of Cerebro) AND the muntant power enhancing drug "Kick" with him.

Kick enchances powers by 5 times.

Compare that with Cerebra, and Xavier is about 5000 times more powerful...

Originally posted by wannabe
Xavier is still cream de la cream of the Marvel telepath's. Problem is that he is not nearly as often shown doing miraculous stuff as others ,because he's not a fighter but a mentor and teacher.
Another reason for his relatively low profile are his strong ethic principles and his restraint, which got even stronger after the Onslaught crisis.
I would still bet all my money that he could dump all other human telepaths (including X-Man, Marvelgirl and Cable) if he'd just go all out.
Xavier has awful power, skill, and experience in abundance, he just currently lacks the WILL to use it...as would i after an incident like Onslaught.

Remember: This man defeated Dark Phoenix, Shadowking, showed his potential as Onslaught (it's telepathic aspect), handled Gladiator and Oracle at the same time as if they were puppets and bypassed Galactus's mental defences to show him the pain of a whole people about to die at his hands.

Well, Gladiator has times in the past showed vulnerability to telepathy and Oracle is a second-rate telepath that even Wolverine can handle. Also, that was I believe the Xavier imposter when the Skrulls were penetrating the S'hiar.

Originally posted by long pig
I don't doubt Prof is high level psi, but never to my knowledge did he or anyone else under herald level ever invade Galactus' mind when Galactus didn't want it.

Thanos can't even do that.

This was when the X-Men went a few years in the past and found themselves on a Skrull homeworld right before Galactus was going to consume it. Xavier sent his astral self to approach Galactus to spare the world and sent his perspective thoughts to Galactus to try an suade him. Unfortunately the effort was nil' and as he was losing his astral form, Galactus wisked him away and back to his physical body.

What Xavier did was not an attack to cause Galactus pain and he was probably given entry to even send out his thoughts to him. He even gives Silver Surfer this function to communicate with him, unless you're assuming Surfer can handle Galactus!?

Thanos with Moondragon (was it with or without Mind gem) cannot even do much to a weaker Galactus and if the first Secret Wars can be used as a partially reference point, Xavier and Magneto when combined psychs were only able to get his partial attention to notice them.

As to the fight in question, it does seem like Xavier should pull this through. Unfortunately my knowledge of Martian Manhunter is limited, but if Kingdom Come is an acceptable reference, Manhunter's mind was damaged when he tried to read and understand all the minds on the planet in a previous incident. With Cerebro, Xavier would have little problem with this.

Originally posted by radioboy121
Well, Gladiator has times in the past showed vulnerability to telepathy and Oracle is a second-rate telepath that even Wolverine can handle. Also, that was I believe the Xavier imposter when the Skrulls were penetrating the S'hiar.

This was when the X-Men went a few years in the past and found themselves on a Skrull homeworld right before Galactus was going to consume it. Xavier sent his astral self to approach Galactus to spare the world and sent his perspective thoughts to Galactus to try an suade him. Unfortunately the effort was nil' and as he was losing his astral form, Galactus wisked him away and back to his physical body.

What Xavier did was not an attack to cause Galactus pain and he was probably given entry to even send out his thoughts to him. He even gives Silver Surfer this function to communicate with him, unless you're assuming Surfer can handle Galactus!?

Thanos with Moondragon (was it with or without Mind gem) cannot even do much to a weaker Galactus and if the first Secret Wars can be used as a partially reference point, Xavier and Magneto when combined psychs were only able to get his partial attention to notice them.

As to the fight in question, it does seem like Xavier should pull this through. Unfortunately my knowledge of Martian Manhunter is limited, but if Kingdom Come is an acceptable reference, Manhunter's mind was damaged when he tried to read and understand all the minds on the planet in a previous incident. With Cerebro, Xavier would have little problem with this.

Mm, KC isn't the best reference since it's just a hypertime...Manhunter has proven he can touch all the minds on the planet, thoroughly scanning them, while in the middle of heated melee combat with worldly threats without straining..

Originally posted by Juntai
Mm, KC isn't the best reference since it's just a hypertime...Manhunter has proven he can touch all the minds on the planet, thoroughly scanning them, while in the middle of heated melee combat with worldly threats without straining..

With the abilities of the JLA, you'd think there should be ANY crime that took place on Earth.

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
With the abilities of the JLA, you'd think there should be ANY crime that took place on Earth.
Martian Manhunter using the height of his abilities, will inevitably unleash the world conquering BURNING. Which is what he truly is. This is why he doesn't use it often.

Xavier would win. The man has got one hell of a dark side and is a bit of an @$$hole when you think about it. I say he wins. Normally he may be on MM level but throw in Kick and cerebra and the fight is over.

What about Despero?

What I'm trying to point out is that MM ALONE BY HIMSELF is EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN XAVIER, but this isn't a fight with JUST MANHUNTER, what happens when you factor in all the other people? It's dead, like Xavier would be.

I mean shit.. Manchester Black, Darkseid, Despero?

Juntai, the question is how would DCs telepaths do against Xavier while he has the advantage of both Cerebra and Kick.

cerebra amplies one's telepathy by a thousand folds; added with the drug; he'd be pretty unstoppable. xavier is already a powerful telepath.

There's ENTIRE RACES OF TELEPATHS. HOW ABOUT THE WHITE MARTIANS FOR EXAMPLE!? This is ONE MAN versus a WHOLE UNIVERSE, it's IMPOSSIBLE odds, you guys are stupid. lol.

Originally posted by Juntai
There's ENTIRE RACES OF TELEPATHS. HOW ABOUT THE WHITE MARTIANS FOR EXAMPLE!? This is ONE MAN versus a WHOLE UNIVERSE, it's IMPOSSIBLE odds, you guys are stupid. lol.

This is ONE MAN with CEREBRA. You do know what cerebra does right?

Originally posted by willRules
This is ONE MAN with CEREBRA. You do know what cerebra does right?
It obviously makes Xavier more powerful than Infinite Gauntlet, by the way this thread reads.

Originally posted by Juntai
There's ENTIRE RACES OF TELEPATHS. HOW ABOUT THE WHITE MARTIANS FOR EXAMPLE!? This is ONE MAN versus a WHOLE UNIVERSE, it's IMPOSSIBLE odds, you guys are stupid. lol.

It is a well known fact that marvel's telepaths are far superior than DC's telepaths. Marvel's telepaths outshines them in department. It's Marvel's forte kinda like moving at the speed of sound and moving a stellar object with ho starins whatsoever is DC's forte.

Originally posted by jffxex1980
It is a well known fact that marvel's telepaths are far superior than DC's telepaths. Marvel's telepaths outshines them in department. It's Marvel's forte kinda like moving at the speed of sound and moving a stellar object with ho starins whatsoever is DC's forte.
????????????

you know damn well what I mean, telepaths in the marvelverse are almost godlike. telepaths in dcverse are okay.

????????????????????????
You must be stuck in the 60's
Wtf are you talking about?

(sighs) someone else tells this boy that THERE'S a HUGE power difference between Marvel telepaths and DC telepaths