Xavier w/cerebra and on the mutant enhancing drug "kick" vs DC's telepaths.

Originally posted by TheKahn
"Read the JLA series that had THE BURNING. Martian Manhunter when he taps into his deepest wells of power unlocks his true being, the world conquering BURNING"

Fernus was beaten by plastic man.
I dount Onslaught would be beaten by plastic man

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You took a sentence out of context Juntai.

Originally posted by Juntai
Read about Plastic man, he's an unstoppable universal force, he doesn't have a mind and his body is completely indestructible. He slowly pulled himself together over the course of eternity and formed Plastic Man. And Plastic Man didn't take him down, only stalled him.

"Read about Plastic man, he's an unstoppable universal force, he doesn't have a mind and his body is completely indestructible. He slowly pulled himself together over the course of eternity and formed Plastic Man. And Plastic Man didn't take him down, only stalled him."

Unstoppable universal force......yea right.

Originally posted by TheKahn
"Read about Plastic man, he's an unstoppable universal force, he doesn't have a mind and his body is completely indestructible. He slowly pulled himself together over the course of eternity and formed Plastic Man. And Plastic Man didn't take him down, only stalled him."

Unstoppable universal force......yea right.

Xavier will literally mind rape all the telepaths and get the ones that are easier to control to help him out, or he could take control of the non-telepaths and make them attack the telepaths or he could do both, or he could do neither of those and go all onslaught on them but amplified by cerebra and kick. He could shut down their minds in a matter of seconds. Dc have extremely strong and respectful characters especially in the strength and speed department, but Marvel is way better when it comes to telepaths. MM has the experience but nowhere near enough power. He is equal to Xavier by himself, but when Xavier is on kick and has cerebra it is pure overkill, and thats not including the other telepaths he could just take control of or shut down.....

If all the White Martians would form a telepathic Gestalt, supported by those psychics that REALLY matter in DC (MM, Fate, Darkside...), then Xavier is done...with or without Cerebra and Kick.

Without Cerebra and Kick Charles has defeated Dark Phoenix, showed his potential as Onslaught, connected himself to the whole population of the Skrull home world to penetrate Galactus mind with their emotions, did something similar with the population of a Shiar world to defeat Ego and is still an idol for all Marvel telepaths.
Sooo...Taking a whole race of telepaths out of the calculation, using only the individual Telepaths of DC (like i dare to say it was meant by BlaqChaos), i would say Charles has more than a good chance with the given boosters.
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Thats what im saying, whilst he would lose without it, charles is still a force to be reckoned with. With kick and Cerebra, Xavier will kick Dc universeal butt.......

Ugh, debating with you guys is useless. At least a couple understand that fighting a universe is impossible no matter who you are.

Originally posted by Juntai
At least a couple understand that fighting a universe is impossible no matter who you are.

Really? Useless? What if your name is Thanos and you've got a little thing called The Heart of the Universe? 😉

i wish the thread creator would be more specific. with cerebra and kick, i would put xavier odds up against MM, Psimon, all the Fates, white martians, manchester black...but when you pull in the guardians, that's overkill. chuck MIGHT give a weaker guardian a fight in astral form using cerebra and kick, but no no no not the entire race at all.

that pic of xavier assaulting galactus is pretty damn nails, though. reminds me of something i forgot: xavier in astral form is damn incomparable.

Originally posted by Juntai
Ugh, debating with you guys is useless. At least a couple understand that fighting a universe is impossible no matter who you are.

Originally posted by wannabe
If all the White Martians would form a telepathic Gestalt, supported by those psychics that REALLY matter in DC (MM, Fate, Darkside...), THEN XAVIER IS DONE...with or without Cerebra and Kick.

Originally posted by wannabe
Sooo...Taking a whole race of telepaths OUT of the calculation, using only the individual Telepaths of DC (like i dare to say it was meant by BlaqChaos), i would say Charles has more than a good chance with the given boosters.

Originally posted by wannabe
Just in case you didn't notice, i said...
I only gave him the victory against the important individual DC telepaths!!!

Well...What I meant was for Xavier to take on all of the powerful, high-profile telepaths at once; not any entire civilizations.

Originally posted by hoorayforpeepee
...that pic of xavier assaulting galactus is pretty damn nails, though. reminds me of something i forgot: xavier in astral form is damn incomparable.

Are we talking only true telepaths, or anyone/thing with telepathic ability?

The hell? Who says the Cerebra makes Xavier "5,000 times more powerful"? Cite sources.

And Charles dies.

Hector Hammond? Control the entire GL Corps and the entire Earth.
As his power increased, his top feat includes controlling an entire friggin galaxy. BILLIONS of sentinent minds. AND he can create technology with his mind to boost his powers.

Martian Manhunter. Manchester Black. Darkseid (controlled three million Daxamites.)

Jesus. The sheer ignorance of Marvelites....🙁

I think the 5 in 5000 comes from the fact that Xavier's on "kick" the 1000 times thing is apparently from Cerebra although I don't know it it's sourced.

So it's a faulty statement then. Let's consider this: Cerebra's max range is in the Earth's atmosphere. It connects the telepath with any being he/she wants to ON EARTH.

Regardless of whether Charles is on Kick or not. He's still limited by Cerebra's capabilities. Which in this case would HINDER him.

Not necessarily faulty information, but as yet unsourced, which I might note your Cerebra max range is also unsourced although I don't necessarily doubt the veracity.