Should I forgive Germany?

Originally posted by soleran30
Actually a Wussy cop out is just saying your wrong. No suporting details other then your associations suck for this culture in the same time period but this culture ok. No one has done anything to prove their point other then to say .........that's a bad association.......or your history sucks.......or you don't know anything.........

The reality is you may HATE my conversation about this but there comes a time you have to justify your argument rather then pick someone elses apart without your own facts............

Everyone has countered your statments with facts. You simply choose to ignore their validity, the reality of those facts, or simply twist them to make your bizzar logic legitimate.

Originally posted by soleran30
Actually a Wussy cop out is just saying your wrong. No suporting details other then your associations suck for this culture in the same time period but this culture ok. No one has done anything to prove their point other then to say .........that's a bad association.......or your history sucks.......or you don't know anything.........

The reality is you may HATE my conversation about this but there comes a time you have to justify your argument rather then pick someone elses apart without your own facts............

Where are your details or the documentation of your facts?

I stated:

That there are a couple of hundred native tribes and that the american government put the nations allied to them on the same reservations as the hostiles.

That Giaus Julius Caesar in particulardid not enslave all his conquered victims.

That ancient Egypt is nothing like colonial America.
That most Indigenous Native American Cultures were small scale and not capable of wiping out entire nations. Also these small scale warrior tribes did not war (for the most part) of land or riches because until we arrived this concept was alien to them. They warred over disputes and for the glory of it. Now follow this, in a small scale warrior culture, you do not wipe out your entire enemy as that will leave you no one to fight in the next season and negate the possibility of achieving combative honours in the future.

That the land was not new, in fact it was a couple of billions of years old and inhabited by people for a few thousand years.

And that the american natives did not defeat the U.S. Army.

I also gave you texts to research.

Originally posted by soleran30
KharmaDog with your supreme wisdom of histroy enlighten me to that period of time we are speaking of as to when there was EVER a peaceful integration of 2 radically different cultures trying to control land and expand their culture.......

never forgive a country that beats you everytime on penalty shoot outs

so the netherlands should be pissed off at everyone?

Originally posted by soleran30
Capt as difficult as this sounds they went to war with those European settlers and chose to stay in the USA there is Canada and Mexico.....

Did Caesar let crushed enemies live with him.....as a slave
Did Egypt let crushed enemies live with them.......as a slave
How about Ghengis Khan and the mongols........nope killed them all
What did American Indians do with a defeated captured tribe? I will tell you they sure as hell didn't say stay where you are and live off what you can.....guess what the defeated tribe......you guessed it SLAVE or Killed

So what exactly was your point about American Indians now?

Rome gave a lot to its Empire.

the sanitation,
the medicine,
education,
wine,
public order,
irrigation,
roads,
a fresh water system,
and public health,

Originally posted by yerssot
so the netherlands should be pissed off at everyone?

they definetly shud be

soleran30 how come you won't answer people's questions.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Is it justified for settlers to slaughter and marginalise a population of indigenous people in order to expand their territorial wealth? Is it justified to commit what by modern terms would be considered crimes against humanity in order to gain land from indigenous people?

A yes or no answer will do.

Originally posted by Fishy
Do you think that what the Nazi's did was good or not? Do you think is a difference between what they did and what the US and europe did to Indians? Except for the obvious difference in how it took place? Is one good and the other evil?

I am not a Historian Obviously🙂

Mostly I do not wish to write a dissertation over this point because in the end both are tragedies..........

However I do want to say that you guys did a great job in standing your ground and it was a pleasure debating with you all......

I want to concede once again that both are tragedies and I believe everyone here feals the same way.........

PVS, Karma, X good job!!!!!! 🍺

Originally posted by Deano
never forgive a country that beats you everytime on penalty shoot outs

Yeah you are right....wait...we are the best .....so i can forgive everyone 😊

Back to topic originally posted by Captain fantastic before a mod called it unecessary and rude and closed the thread.

"Oh, I reported it. No question about that. But I didn't "troll" it. All of your gay themed threads have been a direct attack on me because I called you out in the holocaust thread.

You don't see me starting threadsd like:

Biologically speaking, what purpose does a gypsy with no children serve?

OR

How many derrogatory terms for someone with dyslexia can you think of?

OR

Can dumbass Gypsies act gay?

And the only reason I didn't report the others is because they weren't offensive to an entire protion of the population. But when you basically start a thread where everyone is encouraged to post insults, it isn't just me you're insulting anymore. A similar thread about black people being called n*ggers would have met teh same fate."

He stands revealed - and people wonder why I took offensive to his original slur on my ethnicity 🙁

Whirly he just showed you what you did to him...so you are the last to complain...

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Back to topic originally posted by Captain fantastic before a mod called it unecessary and rude and closed the thread.

"Oh, I reported it. No question about that. But I didn't "troll" it. All of your gay themed threads have been a direct attack on me because I called you out in the holocaust thread.

You don't see me starting threadsd like:

Biologically speaking, what purpose does a gypsy with no children serve?

OR

How many derrogatory terms for someone with dyslexia can you think of?

OR

Can dumbass Gypsies act gay?

And the only reason I didn't report the others is because they weren't offensive to an entire protion of the population. But when you basically start a thread where everyone is encouraged to post insults, it isn't just me you're insulting anymore. A similar thread about black people being called n*ggers would have met teh same fate."

He stands revealed - and people wonder why I took offensive to his original slur on my ethnicity 🙁

Dude, are you running out of threads to attack me in, or what?

Why are you doing this? You're just going to get yourself banned.

On a side note Whirly I did look up holocaust several times on wikipedia and my ignorant arse saw your Roma several times I didn't understand exactly what you were talking about till I researched it a touch..... 🤘 🤘

Originally posted by soleran30
On a side note Whirly I did look up holocaust several times on wikipedia and my ignorant arse saw your Roma several times I didn't understand exactly what you were talking about till I researched it a touch..... 🤘 🤘

yes its very sad

well as long as you walk away having learned something, it was all worth it

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Dude, are you running out of threads to attack me in, or what?

Why are you doing this? You're just going to get yourself banned.

me banned I have had no warnings and done nothing wrong, you are the one whose post got the last thread shut -

Well I would rather call it a different point of view........and just sometimes I did enjoy your sarcasm!

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
me banned I have had no warnings and done nothing wrong, you are the one whose post got the last thread shut -

right! I got the thread closed! suuuure.

Guess what? No one cares that you're lying to get your points across. And, no one cares because they know I'm not racist or bigotted in any way. And, I'm not the issue here, your need for attention...which implies a lack of any real life outside these forums...is the only reason you're acting this way.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
right! I got the thread closed! suuuure.

Guess what? No one cares that you're lying to get your points across. And, no one cares because they know I'm not racist or bigotted in any way. And, I'm not the issue here, your need for attention...which implies a lack of any real life outside these forums...is the only reason you're acting this way.

wrong again - I am sorry you have to direct all your anger towards me, your hate for my people must be great.