Originally posted by Bardock42i wasn't aiming at you.
But that's what I am saying...they are different things....although I don't see why one race should get special treatment towards another...
Originally posted by Clovie
i wasn't aiming at you.
and of course one race shouldn't be treaten differently than the other.
i was thinking about ethnic minorities... that they are allowed to have schools where they're learning in their language and stuff like that.
I don't think they should demand to get that from the state....that's pretty stupid actually........
Originally posted by Clovie😬 Uh... which minorities exactly are you referring to when you make the blanket generalisation that "ethnic minorities expect to be treated differently"?
ermm..on the other side..
ethnic minorities do often expect to be treaten differently. (eg having extra things)
and I don't see why homosexual people should be treaten differently than the heterosexual ones. they are people. period. they shouldn't be treaten differently. so they shouldn't be considered as a minority.if you are thinking this way you can as well count as a minoroty people who are so tall or so fat 😬
Originally posted by Bardock42but they do, and they're getting that. and i don't see why can't they have own school or radio.
I don't think they should demand to get that from the state....that's pretty stupid actually........
Originally posted by xmarksthespotas i said above.
😬 Uh... which minorities exactly are you referring to when you make the blanket generalisation that "ethnic minorities expect to be treated differently"?
Originally posted by Clovie
but they do, and they're getting that. and i don't see why can't they have own school or radio.as i said above.
and it is a generailasion. when a group of people is registrated as a minority they expect special treatment,
They can have that if they want...but why should the state pay for their cultural ideas.
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
I had it implied to me today on this forum that being gay is as defining as the race or ethnic group you come from. I disagreed with this. The poster implied this was due to similar intollerance faced by both - I agreed both suffered from this, but I did not see sexuality as defining in the way culture is.So is being gay the same as being black, indian, jewish, gypsy etc
No it isn't, in my opinion. Sexual orientation is different to ethnic minority, which is different to religious minority.
All different.
Originally posted by Clovie
it shouldn't. 😖 but should allow them.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
States subsidise secondary education institutions with religious foundations. Do you also oppose those?
I don't know what exactly that means but I am against most things the State subsidises.....
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Catholic (etc.) private schools receive partial government funding.You're against everything states subsidise? Like hospital operations for the elderly and preschool education.
Oh ok...yes, well the question would be does one have to pay to go there or is it open for everybody?
Re: Is being Gay the same as being from an ethnic minority?
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
I had it implied to me today on this forum that being gay is as defining as the race or ethnic group you come from. I disagreed with this. The poster implied this was due to similar intollerance faced by both - I agreed both suffered from this, but I did not see sexuality as defining in the way culture is.So is being gay the same as being black, indian, jewish, gypsy etc
It was never implied, your igorance made an assumption and you ran with it, despite the plain text on the screen proving you wrong. Let's look over a few of your posts...as well as my responses.
I want you to point out to me where 1) I said being gay was a race all unto itself? 2) Where anyone said that the holocaust was justified, outside the question posed in the holocaust thread. 3) Where I was a racist?
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
half right, What if a modern German says it can be justified and is not a Nazi?
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
agreed what if that same person said it was not an evil act - does it make it worse they are German?
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Making the same stupid accusations in a new thread STILL doesn't make you right. Bardock, nor anyone who agreed with his statements, said the Germans were justified.
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
As a romany, I would point out it was not just jews they considered inferior, I think many other ethnic groups would agree they were also turned in soap.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
As a gay man, I'd like to point out it wasn't just the jews they considered inferior, I think many other ethnic groups would agree they were also turned into soap.Dude, neither of yo are going to tell me anything I don't know....unless you make it up. I've been a student of WWII history for years. But, your above post only proves the point I was making to the other guy.
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
and your post only proves mine you cannot understand what its like for your race to be considered inferior. I respect your sexuality and feel that anyone who picks on you is wrong, but sexuality is really not the same as race.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
You are talking out of your ass! I don't know what it's like to be considered inferior? I live in a country TODAY, where I am considered inferior, a freak, an aboration, a second-class citizen. As for crying about someone making soap out of you (which didn't actually happen, they never made soap out of people) I'm not worried about people picking on me. I'm worried about the rights of people in my position. I can deal with people picking on me, but whats going on in this country today is far beyond "picking" on gays.And before someone makes the accusation that I am comparing teh holocaust to the fight for equal rights in the US, I'm not.
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
OK now you've cleared that up - I gree with most of your post, except I still feel race and sexuality are different, persecution for any reason is wrong however, I am also sorry the US persecutes you for being gay, sadly I see a swing back inthis respect worldwide due to an upsurge in right wing views and its wrong. No I am definately not tlalking out of my arse.