i got stats for ulic and exar kun
here they are:
exar kun (and after lookin at his stats he's a pure bad ass - even though we knew that already)
jedi guardian 9/ sith lord 8
str 17, dex 16, con 17, int 14, wis 11, cha 13
force skills:
affect mind 13
alchemy 24 (wow)
battlemind 18
enhance ability 13
force defense 21 (wow!! higher than yoda or sidious and njo luke!!)
force push 14
move object 14
see force 12
feats:
ambidexterity, exotic weapon proficiency (double bladed light saber), exotic weapon proficiency (light saber), force-sensitive, heroic surge, two-weapon fighting, weapon focus (light saber), weapon group proficiency (simple weapons) weapon group proficiency (vibro weapons)
force feats:
alter, control, deflect blasters, force lightning, knight defense, light saber defence, master defense, rage, sense, sith sorcery
keep in mind however, that ulic doesn't look really great on paper in comparison but he did give exar kun quite a fight!
ulic
jedi guardian 11, sithlord 5
str 16, dex 16, con 16, int 14, wis 14, cha 14
force skills:
battle mind 15
drain knowledge 7
enhance ability 9
enhance senses 6
farseeing 8
force defense 11
force grip 12
force push 8
heal self 8
move object 14
see force 11
telepathy 10
feats: exotic weapon proficiency (light saber), force-sensitive, heroic surge, infamy, power attack, starship operation (space transports), weapon focus (light saber), weapon group proficiency (blaster pistols), weapon group proficiency (simple weapons)
force feats: alter, burst of speed, control, deflect blasters, knight defense, light saber defense, rage, sense.
Originally posted by Illustrious
Nai has some Nadd stuff, I believe, you should ask him to post it here.
Whoopie...well...
Nadd info:
Freedon Nadd started his career as a Jedi student at the Jedi Temple on Ossus approxematly 4,400 years before ANH. While being very strong with the force he failed his trials to become a Jedi Knight. Enraged with the decission of the Council, Freedon Nadd struck down the Jedi Master Matta Tremayne.
Now he started his way on the dark side path studying ancient Sith secrets but because he knew that there can only be one Dark Lord of the Sith at any time (and he thought there was a Dark Lord still alive somewhere) he thought that he could never become more than a Sith Acolyte - something that enraged him even more.
Led by the force Nadd moved to Yavin 4 where he ran across Naga Sadow who had entered suspended animation there after the events of the Great Hyperspace War and sought to complete his training under the Sith Lord. Before he finished his training he thought himself powerful enough to defeat Sadow and claim the title as a Dark Lord for himself - it is believed that he killed Sadow but that is not confirmed yet.
He travelled to Korriban where he gathered many ancient Sith artifacts and from Korriban he moved to Onderon - at this time one of the richest planets in known space - to establish his own Sith Empire.
Armed only with a short lightsaber and a blaster pistol (and his force powers) he conquered the entire planet on his own and nearly destroyed the entire population of Beast Riders using Sith magic only. He ruled over the planet until the Jedi send an army of force users to destroy him but Nadd did kill many Jedi (shooting them with his blaster) before he was defeated but he was able to preserve his spirit in a Sith amulet he found on Korriban and so his spirit still influenced the rulers of Onderon. That was the reason Sith magic was very common among the people of Iziz.
400 years later the descendants of Freedon Nadd (Queen Amanoa and King Ommin) created serveral revolts to finally exterminate the Beast Riders. The first revolt under Queen Amanoa was stopped by a Jedi strike team supported by Master Arca Jeth who used battle meditation to give the Beast Riders a chance to defeat the troops of Iziz, Onderons capital city. Shortly after that another revolt by King Ommin was started who kept Arca Jeth as a prisoner. That revolt was called the "Freedon Nadd uprising" and it lasted until Ulic Quel-Droma cut down King Ommins exo-sceleton. The king was still alive when Freedon Nadd's spirit reappeared and ended the life of his descendant.
After this Exar Kun discovered the amulet Nadd has preserved his spirit in and Nadd started to manipulate Kun, pulling him to the dark side. He led Kun to Korriban and Yavin 4 where Kun discovered more Sith artifacts which finally made him more powerful than Nadd's spirit could control and so Kun - while taking control of the Massasi on Yavin 4 - finally exterminated Nadd's spirit.
For all we know Nadd is easily the most combative Sith Lord ever - at least the one with the most raw combat skills and fighting abilities considering the fact that he killed a decent amount of Jedi with his blaster (!), conquered a planet on his own and was able to waste entire armies with his force knowledge / Sith magic.
Originally posted by Darth Abominus
i can post the stats of naga sadow, ludo kressh, mace windu, yoda, count dooku, sidious, vader, bane an others if you wish.oh, as far as ulic and revan go, imo, uber ulic wins.
If you could PM me all those stats that'd be cool.
also, about those stats, is Ulic really better than NJO Luke? They seem to be okay stats, but I doubt Ulic is better than Luke.
Originally posted by Illustrious
I personally think Ragnos would outclass Kun, but it's not out of the question.
i agree, question is, can kun defend himself against force attacks that ragnos can send towards him? probably not.
the game stats are interesting but i'd take them with a grain of salt, ulic didn't seem so impressive, but, he did give kun a run for his money.
Originally posted by Darth Abominus
nai i agree, question is, can kun defend himself against force attacks that ragnos can send towards him? probably not.the game stats are interesting but i'd take them with a grain of salt, ulic didn't seem so impressive, but, he did give kun a run for his money.
Can you post the other statistics? I'd like to see the more comprehensive list.
You're right though, Kun's stats seem a bit bloated.
yeah I wouldn't put to much stock in the game stats, I just put them in for Marka because I thought it showed a rough idea of the power that the Lucas sanctioned people thought he had. I wouldn't base an arguement just on that though, some of them just do not make sense (Exar being that much better than Ulic, yet having a hard time beating him etc.)
About Kreia, well the reason I said that it was her instakill move was because we see the sith assassins reveal themselves, then the screen goes black. When it comes back however, you see that they fall dead, in the exact same place that they revealed themselves, so they all died instantly, now we don't know if she just flashed them or did her instakill, but we do know that they did die instantly without moving. So that is why I said that she likely did her instakill, however, you are right, there is no proof of that