Tourney Battle #5

Originally posted by long pig
Experience means nothing when you can't apply it. You CAN'T apply it here because don't have the EQUIPMENT to work with.

My shields will hold up fine, yours won't.

Where is your logic button? Could you press it for me please?

I don't need to move but 10 meters to be able to physically batter you....repeat after me... "Shocktopus doesn't need to move but 10 meters to batter me" There ya go.

The fact is I CAN move those 10 meters easily, all the while dodging anything you can throw all the while blasting the hell out of you with bolts of electricity and four steel melting lasers.

I don't even NEED to be close to hit you. Is that your argument? Because it's the only thing you've used, and it's wrong.

Also, are you even going to comment on the fact you were accused of doctoring a pic and outright lying about it?

What equipment? The Darkhawk armor that was being used in zero gravity? Unless Ryu is naked in this fight, your point doesn't make any sense.

Your shields will be destroyed 2 seconds in.

Again LP, where's your proof that your shields can block chi energy. Still waiting to see that.... produce it and I'll concede this fight. 😄

What equipment? The Darkhawk armor that was being used in zero gravity? Unless Ryu is naked in this fight, your point doesn't make any sense.

The only problem with that is your Darkhawk's flight tools have been removed. So until Darkhawk uses something other than flight gear to fly in space, you don't have a viable excuse for keeping yourself balanced or upright.

Your shields will be destroyed 2 seconds in.

Watch "I know KVD can win. I know KVD can win." See? I keep saying it, but it'll never be true.

Again LP, where's your proof that your shields can block chi energy. Still waiting to see that.... produce it and I'll concede this fight.

Again, KVD, did you doctor the pic? Did Darkhawk get electrocuted or no?

Amazing Spider-Man #353-358 Right?

Here you go...

Energy feedback from FOUR Seekers (Ironman villains). I don't see it KO'ing Darkhawk... he even had strength lift Venom and glide away.

Originally posted by long pig
The only problem with that is your Darkhawk's flight tools have been removed. So until Darkhawk uses something other than flight gear to fly in space, you don't have a viable excuse for keeping yourself balanced or upright.

Simple. Chi energy. Bison and Akuma have used it to fly. Ken used it to levitate. What's to say Ryu can't do that same thing that Ken has achieved when Ryu is known to be more powerful than Ken?

Originally posted by long pig
Again, where's your proof that sheilds can't block chi? Your attack is nothing more than an energy attack. Unless, it's magic, then it's not allowed. So, which is it?

Again, KVD, did you doctor the pic? Did Darkhawk get electrocuted or no?

😆 😆 So now we're assuming characters have abilities unless otherwise shown? Okay, my chi absorbs electricity, show me where it says that I can't.

Originally posted by K Von Doom
Simple. Chi energy. Bison and Akuma have used it to fly. Ken used it to levitate. What's to say Ryu can't do that same thing that Ken has achieved when Ryu is known to be more powerful than Ken?

Originally posted by K Von Doom
Here you go...

Energy feedback from FOUR Seekers (Ironman villains). I don't see it KO'ing Darkhawk... he even had strength lift Venom and glide away.

And that has to do with.....?? Darkhawk #36 ?

Haaha ah... That scan PROVES undeniably that your cables are conductive! Thanks, how about I just let you argue for me?

Seekers aren't iron man villians, they appeared in that one fricken issue and were never seen again.

Originally posted by K Von Doom
😆 😆 So now we're assuming characters have abilities unless otherwise shown? Okay, my chi absorbs electricity, show me where it says that I can't.

I can show you where Blanka shocked the shit out of Ryu, so much for chi absorbing electricity. 😄

Originally posted by long pig
There's no reason or proof why or how chi is any different than any other type of super energy. It's all energy.

I can show you where Blanka shocked the shit out of Ryu, so much for chi absorbing electricity. 😄

Sooo.... you're saying you have no proof that Electro can absorb chi. Figures.

I'd have to say, and most would agree, that chi has closer relations to mystical energies than scientific energies.

Yes, show me that issue where Blanka fights Ryu. I think everyone would like to see it. 🙄

Originally posted by long pig
Simple. No proof.

And that has to do with.....?? Darkhawk #36 ?

Seekers aren't iron man villians, they appeared in that one fricken issue and were never seen again.

As opposed to your proof with Electro absorbing chi... non existent. Difference is, my claim can be proven through association... Bison, Akuma and Ken used theirs in that way. What's the difference between Ken and Ryu?

It has to do with how DH, the weaker armor, deals with energy. If he can handle energy from four Seekers, he'll handle your energy without any problems.

Originally posted by K Von Doom
Sooo.... you're saying you have no proof that Electro can absorb chi. Figures.

I'd have to say, and most would agree, that chi has closer relations to mystical energies than scientific energies.

Yes, show me that issue where Blanka fights Ryu. I think everyone would like to see it. 🙄

Electro is truely immune to effects of electricity and has a 75% immunity to all other energy attacks.

Before the powerup.^^^

Not to mention that chi will have to burst two tourney limit shields and a super tough titanium alloy metal suit.

But, of course, that will never happen due to your electricity vulnerability and conductive body and the fact you can't control your movements and I can.

Simply, you'll never have a chance to actually use it as I will be on you before you can kick off the side of the dome to correct your movement.

Hitting you with arms so strong they k.o'd hulk, blasts so powerful they melt steel, electricity so hot and powerful they K.O anyone, coils so sharp and tough they dug into Hulk and he couldn't break them.

Plus my 5 foot adamantium blades.

You're dead.

And what about the damn scan? I don't care really either way, just don't make me think you're lying about information.

Originally posted by long pig
Before the powerup.^^^

Not to mention that chi will have to burst two tourney limit shields and a super tough titanium alloy metal suit.

But, of course, that will never happen due to your electricity vulnerability and conductive body and the fact you can't control your movements and I can.

Simply, you'll never have a chance to actually use it as I will be on you before you can kick off the side of the dome to correct your movement.

Hitting you with arms so strong they k.o'd hulk, blasts so powerful they melt steel, electricity so hot and powerful they K.O anyone, coils so sharp and tough they dug into Hulk and he couldn't break them.

Plus my 5 foot adamantium blades.

You're dead.

And what about the damn scan? I don't care really either way, just don't make me think you're lying about information.

And where did you get that quote from? It wasn't in your link and don't tell me it's in marvel directory which you say is inaccurate. Still, it doesn't prove your claim that he can block chi energy. Unless you're saying this "energy" that's being referred to encompasses ALL energy, which would make Electro quite potent against Dr Strange and Silver Surfer. And I don't think anyone would believe that.

Chi doesn't have to bust through your shields. It'll go straight through the way light goes through an invisible shield and magic goes through a quantum shield. Chi is a different sort of power than what you're used to dealing with. And where is that scan of Blanka electrocuting Ryu? I'm curious to see that image.

About that scan, I remember Thunderball grabbing Darkhawk in that fight. Electrical effects = none. I'll post it when I scan it. Or you can try to prove me wrong and you scan it. Besides, with the picture above, it's already proven that DH can handle greater energies than what Thunderball was dishing out so if you wan to go back to that fight, be my guest. Darkhawk can handle the energy of four Seekers.

Hmm... let me think of what would be faster....

Me shooting you with a super-hadoken and DF blasts
or
You floating your way *straight if you can* towards me to try to use your coils and tentacles, while trying to magnetize boxes that can't be magnetized.

It doesn't take an Otto Octavius to figure it out...

Besides, with the picture above, it's already proven that DH can handle greater energies than what Thunderball was dishing out so if you wan to go back to that fight, be my guest. Darkhawk can handle the energy of four Seekers.

Seekers=Garbage. They were in three comics in DarkHawk and that's it. If three of them can't take DH, they aren't very powerful. End.

There is no proof they are anywhere NEAR the level of 1million volts. Nothing. Notta. No proof of what they were even using.

And where did you get that quote from? It wasn't in your link and don't tell me it's in marvel directory which you say is inaccurate

Invulnerability: Electro has Class 1000 Resistance to all forms of Electrical energy, and Excellent Resistance to other forms of energy.

Resist Energy
Rating: 500
Electro has resistance to all forms of electrical energy and 76% resistance to other forms of energy.

Resistance to Electricity 18
Resistance to other Energy and Disease 8

Super Advantages
Damage Resistance, 12 DR (only vs. energy) [24]; Invulnerability to Electricity [100]; Matter Surfing (must "surf" along power lines -10%) [27]; Super Running, 2 levels (only increases matter surfing speed -20%)[32]

... Invulnerability to Electricity: Electro is invulnerable to electrical attacks
and has resistance to energy attacks. Origins: ...
www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character.asp?UniqueId=2

I gotta million.

Originally posted by long pig
Seekers=Garbage. They were in three comics in DarkHawk and that's it. If three of them can't take DH, they aren't very powerful. End.

There is no proof they are anywhere NEAR the level of 1million volts. Nothing. Notta. No proof of what they were even using.

Don't get all pissy because I keep proving you wrong over and over and over. Just deal with it. Cap's shield isn't adamantium/vibranium and Electro has near immunity to all energy. It's common knowledge.

http://www.lawner.gothere.uk.com/rpg/supers/marvel/villains/tsrstats/tsrelectro.htm

http://www.lawner.gothere.uk.com/rpg/supers/marvel/villains/electro.htm

With regards to those links, just to show how vague it is, it says ALL OTHER FORMS OF ENERGY, which would include magic and cosmic. Nowhere does it say chi but for arguments sake, let's say it encompasses ALL energies. Magic, cosmic and chi... anyone here believe that Electro has 76% resistance to magic and cosmci energies? Common knowledge? Anyone told the Surfer and Dr Strange? So, while the marvel related site is false, the non-marvel like you provided is accurate?

Nope. Seekers are tough. 😆 Again, by your logic, while there's no proof that they were shooting him with 1000000 volts of electricity, what's to say that they weren't shooting 1000000 volts of electricity?

With regards to those links, just to show how vague it is, it says ALL OTHER FORMS OF ENERGY, which would include magic and cosmic. Nowhere does it say chi but for arguments sake, let's say it encompasses ALL energies. Magic, cosmic and chi... anyone here believe that Electro has 76% resistance to magic and cosmci energies? Common knowledge? Anyone told the Surfer and Dr Strange? So, while the marvel related site is false, the non-marvel like you provided is accurate?

Marvel Directory isn't from Marvel. ❌

Electro, by the nature of his powers alone should be enough for you to understand that he has a great resistance to energy attacks. I really can't make it any more simple.

What's the most damaging effects of energy? Heat? Muscle damage?
A Chi blast won't do anything more than Electro does to himself by soaking up a FRIGGIN ELECTRIC CHAIR.

But, of course, this means nothing because you'll never actually get a chance to use it. And if by some miracle you do, it'll be dampened by two shields and Titanium armor before reaching my energy resistant body. And if it's powerful enough to blast through all that so easily, it's not legal for ryu to use.

Very, very simple concept.

Got to stress the fact that my Tenticals (Which, by the way I keep almost spelling testicals.) are 20 meters long each, the coils are 30 meters long, each. I can use them also to balance myself as well as my other powers. I can use them to move through the dome to close the 20 meters in a second or two, ALL while simutaniously blasting a laser or two and electric blasts.

As soon as I get him out of the corner, or close the distance between us in two seconds, it's over.

Originally posted by long pig
Marvel Directory isn't from Marvel. ❌

Electro, by the nature of his powers alone should be enough for you to understand that he has a great resistance to energy attacks. I really can't make it any more simple.

What's the most damaging effects of energy? Heat? Muscle damage?
A Chi blast won't do anything more than Electro does to himself by soaking up a FRIGGIN ELECTRIC CHAIR.

But, of course, this means nothing because you'll never actually get a chance to use it. And if by some miracle you do, it'll be dampened by two shields and Titanium armor before reaching my energy resistant body. And if it's powerful enough to blast through all that so easily, it's not legal for ryu to use.

Very, very simple concept.

Got to stress the fact that my Tenticals (Which, by the way I keep almost spelling testicals.) are 20 meters long each, the coils are 30 meters long, each. I can use them also to balance myself as well as my other powers. I can use them to move through the dome to close the 20 meters in a second or two, ALL while simutaniously blasting a laser or two and electric blasts.

As soon as I get him out of the corner, or close the distance between us in two seconds, it's over.

Oh yeah.

droolio

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Oh yeah.

droolio

Like I said, I'll get him into a corner....and well...Electro got raped in prison, and he LIKED IT! 😈 droolio

i keep hearing that Doc Ock's tentacles are 20 meters... that is total BS... they are 24 feet... way shorter than 20 meters

"Each tentacle is about 6 feet long when fully contracted and expand out to a maximum of twenty-four feet. "

http://www.spidervillain.com/Villains/DocOct/DocOct.html

i've also read on many occasions that Cap's shield is a vibranium/adamantium alloy

"Rogers also met President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who presented him with a new shield made from a chance mixture of iron, vibranium and an unknown catalyst. The alloy was indestructible, yet the shield was light enough to use as a discus-like weapon that could be angled to return to him. (In several stories, the shield has been described as an adamantium-vibranium alloy.)"

this link supports both arguments

http://www.emypedia.com/article/Captain_America

CLOSING STATEMENT

Okay, there's a long weekend here in Oz so between the parties, there'll be no time to post again till Monday morning. A closing statement and I'll let the votes go where they may. Hopefully LP will do the same instead of just using my statements as quotes.

- The fifteen minute prep time will be used to power up my chi, resulting in a battle aura, a chi field which I can use to control my movement in an anti-gravity chamber (Ken, Bison and Akuma have used it to levitate, by association Ryu can as well). Add to this, Darkhawk's experience in zero gravity and I have the environmental advantage. Whereas LP will be using his tentacles and coils to steady himself but with just a smooth vibranium/adamantium surface, he'll have nothing to latch or hold onto, causing him to float aimlessly for a short period of time before he's KO'd.

- Right from the start I'll be using the auto-targeting, Darkhawk's already accurate aim and telescopic sight to locate LP then blast him with continuous force blasts and eye beams. A single blast is equal to a cyclops level optic blast, well within the rules, powerful enough to knock Ironman from the sky (see previous pics) but a continuous barrage of these blasts will quickly destroy LP's shields. Rules say your shields can't be stronger than titanium right? Auto targeting plus over a dozen force blasts with pinpoint accuracy in the span of one second will knock LP back, destroying his shields and armor as he tries to make his way towards me.

- All this time LP is multitasking with trying to magnetize boxes, trying to grab onto something to steady himself, trying to aim & throw un-magnetized boxes, attempting to float his way towards me, shooting me with 2 lasers (two are occupied with boxes), hoping to make his electricity effective from that range, while trying to maintain the integrity of his shields from my battering, And let's face it, Electro isn't exactly a genius when it comes to strategy and multitasking. Essentially, LP will be blown backwards (auto-targeting), as will I (kickback from the amount of power I'm dishing out) keeping us at maximum distance from each other. In this situation, LP has no effective offense, while I'm about to...

- Shoot him with a super hadouken, for which LP has no defense seeing as his shields have been destroyed and his armor has been pulverized by by blasts. One of these bad boys is all it will take to take LP out of the fight, and with auto-targeting enhancing my telescopic sight, there's no way that any range attacks can miss. If LP is still alive? How about a couple of dozen more cyclops level force blasts to his head. (see previous a pics of DH's rapid fire and accuracy)

- My defensive capabilities won't even be needed because LP doesn't have a potent range attack to hurt me with. Lasers? Spiderman 2099 can dodge ten of these simultaneously (see previous pic) plus a shield that's held out against numerous energy types - sonic, fire, lightning and *shock* lasers! (see previous pics with the Seekers)

- Finally, I have the mindset advantage because Ryu lives to be a perfect fighter whereas Electro has the mind of a criminal. Which is a big difference in this situation. Ryu is a smart fighter, can adapt to styles, will look for openings and should things go bad, it won't shake him but make him more determined to win. However, with the mindset of a criminal, once things start to turn south, they have a tendency to flee or beg for mercy.

In closing, my range attacks will take LP out before he can close the gap between us.

Natural accuracy + auto-targeting + cyclops level blasts + continuous barrage = I win

Voting Mr. Von Doom...

I don't know much about Doc Ock 2, so I wouldn't really say I'd know very well if her tentacles were actually a lot longer than normal Ock's, but the site says she has "Doc Ock's tentacles"... I assumed they were the same, and his are DEFINITELY not 20 meters.

That said, KVD has a very distinct range advantage. The terrain helps him a lot here, since moving will probably take a good while for either of you to really master. His auto targeting and far-from wimpy arsenal should be enough to take you down faster than you can take him down. Simple as that. (oh, I'm pretty sure Digi implied that you can't mess with the boxes using electricity... I may be wrong, but I don't see them as a huge advantage either way)