Tourney Battle #5

As a point of clarification (though this isn't an official ruling, just a general observation)...Electro's powers might make him slightly less vulnerable to energy attacks, especially any involving electricity, but it would definitely still hurt him. I know he's been upgraded recently, but no Spider-Man villian is simply going to laugh off a blast from Cyke or similar energy source. Shocktopus is definitely guarded a few different ways, but energy will still affect him. Voters can decide for themselves exactly how much they think it will affect him, but hopefully I won't need to say any more on the matter.

Okay, last post for today and seeing as a picture is worth a thousand words, we'll go this way.

Looks like electricity has no effect on vibranium/adamantium.

As it stands, my force shield is wide enough and strong enough to withstand energy attacks from multiple sources.

Also, my dodge ability provided by Spiderman 2099 makes it easy enough to dodge your attacks, which won't be getting through the shield anyway.

The weaker DH armor is tough enough to withstand your electricity but you'll be KO'd in the opening seconds so it doesn't matter.

Add to that Ryu's toughness and chi energy means any attack you can come up with, which you won't have time to mount, will ultimately be futile.

Now, let's see how you deal with Cyclops level force blasts & eye beams, enhanced by chi and with rapid fire

With this kind of precision to begin with, not to mention auto-targeting

And a superhadoken (normal hakoken pic) that you have no defense for (let's see proof that you can absorb that kind of energy) and you're a stain 2 seconds into the fight.

Originally posted by long pig
lol wtf.

Who is that? Dude, you can't vote for me, you just signed up like two minutes ago.

Who the **** is that?

At the moment however I'm going to say LP.

Of course my mind is open, and best of luck guys.

thus far I have to say I'm leaning towards kvd on this one...

while long pig's pretty damned powerful I really don't think he was well focused with his beginning strategy... now he's gonna get hammered by that super-hado and I'm not entirely convinced he's going to simply "get up" from that or just brush it off... 🙁

Originally posted by K Von Doom

i have this comic.... now i'm not sure (as i haven't read it in a while) but i think Thunderball does, in fact, electrocute Darkhawk along the grapple line in the scenes you cut out of the pic.... i'm on my way out, but i'll check up on it when i get back in

Looks like electricity has no effect on vibranium/adamantium.

Magneto sure as hell magnetized USAgents shield I believe.

And a superhadoken (normal hakoken pic) that you have no defense for (let's see proof that you can absorb that kind of energy) and you're a stain 2 seconds into the fight.

Also, it sure didn't look like the superhadoken is bothering the guy in the pic, in fact, he blocks it with a blast.

The fact of the matter is, it'll be blocked by two shields, one shield specifically designed to absorb/counter energy and another shield designed to absorb the impact of kenetc energy of force. If by some miracle it makes it past both and then somehow gets past the super durable titanium alloy skin, which it won't, you are STILL trying to use energy against a being who controls and is nearly immune to the effects of energy. It won't do much.......that is if you would ever actually be capable of aiming and firing an attack accuratly.

Now, let's see how you deal with Cyclops level force blasts & eye beams, enhanced by chi and with rapid fire

Also, my dodge ability provided by Spiderman 2099 makes it easy enough to dodge your attacks, which won't be getting through the shield anyway.

Your scans suck, it actually looks like he IS getting hit there.

In comics, normal humans dodge bullets by dumb foot soldiers because of how bad their aim is and the plot needs to move on i.e P.I.S. Here it's different, you won't be dodging anything. How exactly can you dodge when you have no control over your body?

You're being blasted by 4 high powered lasers enough to melt steel and electricity moving at 9,000 feet per second.. You're also being hit by coils and arms that have K.O'd Hulk in the past.

You think you can multitask THAT much? No...no you don't.

i have this comic.... now i'm not sure (as i haven't read it in a while) but i think Thunderball does, in fact, electrocute Darkhawk along the grapple line in the scenes you cut out of the pic.... i'm on my way out, but i'll check up on it when i get back in

It would make sense since Darkhawk has always had a weakness to electricity and energy attacks. If you look at the rest of the pic this is what it looks like it's saying:

Thunderball says "Right and I'm TBALL" then electrocutes him, Darkhawk says "unnngghhh!!!" and the girl/guy sees Darkhawk lying on the floor and screams "Darkhawk!!!!"

Let's not forget how easily damaged Darkhawk is, Darkhawk's greatest attribute his he can heal instantly by changing to human and back to the armor in a second or two.
He isn't allowed to use it here, so all the damage he gets, he keeps and it will easily tear apart his armor with no hope of healing.

He's absolutely screwed in this scenario.

Originally posted by long pig

Your scans suck, it actually looks like he IS getting hit there.

Err.... yes, Spiderman got hit with the lasers and he's dead now (sarcastic). 🙄

Originally posted by long pig
Uh, KVD guess what, Caps shiels ain't Vibranium Adamantium. It's vibranium and an uknown alloy.

Quote from Marvel Directory about Cap's shield:

Weapons: Captain America's only weapon is his shield, a concave disk 2.5 feet in diameter, weighing 12 pounds. It is made of a unique Vibranium-Adimantium alloy that has never been duplicated. The Shield was cast by American metallurgist Dr. Myron MacLain, who was contracted by the U.S. government to create an impenetrable substance to use for tanks during World War II. During his experiments, MacLain combined Vibranium with an Adamantium-steel alloy he was working with and created the disc-shaped shield. MacLain was never able to duplicate the process due to his inability identify a still unknown factor that played a role in it. The shield was awarded to Captain America by the government several months after the beginning of his career.

The shield has great aerodynamic properties: it is able to slice through the air with minimal wind resistance and deflection of path. Its great overall resilience, combined with its natural concentric stiffness, enables it to rebound from objects with minimal loss of angular momentum. It is virtually indestructible: it is resistant to penetration, temperature extremes, and the entire electromagnetic spectrum of radiation. The only way it can be damaged in any way is by tampering with its molecular bonding.

Originally posted by long pig
I can show proof I have an near immunity to quote "All electricity and godlike immunity to all otherforms of energy."

Let's see your proof that you're immune to ALL other forms of energy. Chi energy specifically

Originally posted by long pig
You're being blasted by 4 high powered lasers enough to melt steel and electricity moving at 9,000 feet per second.. You're also being hit by coils and arms that have K.O'd Hulk in the past.

Well, as I already said, I'm not going to be needing the dodge ability anyway, but it's good to have, because your lasers are easily blocked. I already showed proof of this. Your electicity won't even reach me and your arms are too short. Effectively, you'll be KO'd while you're trying to make your way towards me. Lasers? Meh.

Originally posted by long pig
First, prove somehow that you can actually amp Darkhawks blast with Ryu's chi. Because unless you can, it's not a valid argument. You also need to prove that DH can infact do it and keep your balance in zero G.

Shocktopus: Okay, let me shoot some lasers at him... seems to be blockeing it... coils cant reach!!! Blades useless!!! Electricity not effective!!! I'll try magnetizing these boxes... ahh crap, they're immune!! Uh-oh, I seem to be floating away, better try to use my electricity to steady myself. Okay, I'll slowly float my way over there.... oh $#!t what the hell is that?! Optic Blast?! Continuous hammering,.... shields faltering!!! Damn you tentacles, let go of those boxes!! Unknown energy type coming my way?!.... mommy....

SW-2099: Shinryu-Hadoken!!!

😆 😆

Originally posted by K Von Doom
Quote from Marvel Directory about Cap's shield:

Weapons: Captain America's only weapon is his shield, a concave disk 2.5 feet in diameter, weighing 12 pounds. It is made of a unique Vibranium-Adimantium alloy that has never been duplicated. The Shield was cast by American metallurgist Dr. Myron MacLain, who was contracted by the U.S. government to create an impenetrable substance to use for tanks during World War II. During his experiments, MacLain combined Vibranium with an Adamantium-steel alloy he was working with and created the disc-shaped shield. MacLain was never able to duplicate the process due to his inability identify a still unknown factor that played a role in it. The shield was awarded to Captain America by the government several months after the beginning of his career.

The shield has great aerodynamic properties: it is able to slice through the air with minimal wind resistance and deflection of path. Its great overall resilience, combined with its natural concentric stiffness, enables it to rebound from objects with minimal loss of angular momentum. It is virtually indestructible: it is resistant to penetration, temperature extremes, and the entire electromagnetic spectrum of radiation. The only way it can be damaged in any way is by tampering with its molecular bonding.

Captain America's shield: The process that created this shield was never duplicated and is not understood. It is made of an alloy that includes Wakandan vibranium. It was somehow molecularly altered to reach its current state. It is essentially indestructible, and is even stronger than any known form of adamantium. A mistake often assumed by readers is that Captain America's shield is made entirely of adamantium, or of vibranium. It is not; it is derived from it, but has radically different properties resulting in far, far greater resilience. A mistake made in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe and repeated many times since is the suggestion that the shield is simply an adamantium-vibranium alloy. It is not; as revealed via retcon, adamantium was created in an attempt to duplicate the material of the shield.

Yes, Marvel Directory is wrong, you're wrong. End.

Originally posted by K Von Doom
[B]Well, as I already said, I'm not going to be needing the dodge ability anyway, but it's good to have, because your lasers are easily blocked. I already showed proof of this. Your electicity won't even reach me and your arms are too short. Effectively, you'll be KO'd while you're trying to make your way towards me. Lasers? Meh.

The blasts are lethal to superhumans like Spiderman.

I can blast blast from the coils or from my hands, they'll reach you easily, effortlessly even.

No dodging, no attacking, no countering. It's all down hill for ya.

Originally posted by long pig
You think you can multitask THAT much? No...no you don't.

Multitask? Me? I'm only shooting at you. By the by, that's Sagat with Ryu, someone who actually CAN block chi energy.

Darkhawk already has battle experience in zero gravity so it's very simple to draw from that experience and apply it here, whereas all your supposed mobility in zero gravity is mere speculation. Amping the DH blast isn't required because the super hadoken has killed you 2 seconds into the fight. You think your shield can withstand repeating fire Cycops-level DH blasts and eye beams what shoot with precision?

My shields will hold up fine, yours won't.

Where is your logic button? Could you press it for me please?

I don't need to move but 10 meters to be able to physically batter you....repeat after me... "Shocktopus doesn't need to move but 10 meters to batter me" There ya go.

The fact is I CAN move those 10 meters easily, all the while dodging anything you can throw all the while blasting the hell out of you with bolts of electricity and four steel melting lasers.

I don't even NEED to be close to hit you. Is that your argument? Because it's the only thing you've used, and it's wrong.

Also, are you even going to comment on the fact you were accused of doctoring a pic and outright lying about it?

Originally posted by long pig
Wrong. -sigh- Again. FFS, man.

Yes, Marvel Directory is wrong, you're wrong. End.

Why wouldn't the bolts reach you? My arms are 20meters long and the Coils are 30meters long, we are fighting in a 50 meter box, where the hell are you going to hide? In the corner? You'll just make it more easy for me to crush you.

The blasts are lethal to superhumans like Spiderman.

I can blast blast from the coils or from my hands, they'll reach you easily, effortlessly even.

No dodging, no attacking, no countering. It's all down hill for ya.

😆 😆 Yes LP, everyone is wrong but you.

We're fighting in a 50 meter room, as you said, your coils are 30 meters attached to your regular arms, your tentacles are 20 meters attached to your chest, that gives me 20 meters of buffer space.

I have no doubt your blasts are lethal to Spiderman. But show me Spiderman's ability to create a shield. Your blasts aren't getting through my shield.