Originally posted by GalacticStorm
How does Magnetos wormhole powers work? 😕
But blocking lasers with wind makes sense in its own special way.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Not very well or clearly for that matter. Id say you more stated that there was a difference than actually detailed what that difference is.At any rate what point are you trying to make by highlighting a difference if Spiderman dodges Carnages tendrils just like Storm would dodge them. 😕
Or is this a stupid question
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I believe in the Marvel universe, the unified theory is proven and, through magnetism, he can manipulate gravity, radiation, and that other one... unless there's isn't a 4th. I forgot. Enough so to make a wormhole.But blocking lasers with wind makes sense in its own special way.
Yes but the power required to open a wormhole and control it like that are beyond what Magneto had previously been shown to posses.
Either way you knew what point i was making. Its comic book science just know that she can and has done it. Therefore accept it.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I believe in the Marvel universe, the unified theory is proven and, through magnetism, he can manipulate gravity, radiation, and that other one... unless there's isn't a 4th. I forgot. Enough so to make a wormhole.But blocking lasers with wind makes sense in its own special way.
Gravity, Magnetism, Weak Nuclear Force, Strong Nuclear Force?
Originally posted by kgkg
Do u like storm GSOr is this a stupid question
Why did you choose to quote that post to ask that question? 😕
Just curious is all.
Also i havent said Storm would win. I havent made my thoughts known. As i said in my first contribution to this thread today i am just wiating for the contributions of others before i place my vote. At the moment im throwing questions out there and answering any that come my way. Ok? 😄
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Why did you choose to quote that post to ask that question? 😕Just curious is all.
Also i havent said Storm would win. I havent made my thoughts known. As i said in my first contribution to this thread today i am just wiating for the contributions of others before i place my vote. At the moment im throwing questions out there and answering any that come my way. Ok? 😄
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Not very well or clearly for that matter. Id say you more stated that there was a difference than actually detailed what that difference is.At any rate what point are you trying to make by highlighting a difference if Spiderman dodges Carnages tendrils just like Storm would dodge them. 😕
No I was discussing the principles of "dodging" something, vs the marksman having bad aim, as often potrayed with characters like cap, as he would illogically dodge all of what he does at the same time.
Originally posted by BeyonderAgreed, she is physically human, and she is shot like a sitting duck before it can take off.
Carnage wins. He's as fast or faster than Spiderman and is resistant to sonics. Spikes, tendrils, webbing, etc., at Storm before she nows what hit her.Unless anyone is ignorant enough to think Storm has Spidey reflexes, then Carnage takes this.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No I was discussing the principles of "dodging" something, vs the marksman having bad aim, as often potrayed with characters like cap, as he would illogically dodge all of what he does at the same time.Agreed, she is physically human, and she is shot like a sitting duck before it can take off.
Well if that was your view why bother to make this thread in the first place. Its pointless. Its not even certain she'd win even if she got off the ground in time. So why make a thread without putting them a reasonable distance apart, a thread where you can just say BANG shes dead after two seconds? 😕
Originally posted by GalacticStormWhat do you mean its pointless?
Well if that was your view why bother to make this thread in the first place. Its pointless. Its not even certain she'd win even if she got off the ground in time. So why make a thread without putting them a reasonable distance apart, a thread where you can just say BANG shes dead after two seconds? 😕
I still think its a close match my point was concerning storms reflexes vs carnages.
Like on the spiderman vs storm thread, or any storm thread, storm isn't at her max until she leaves into the air.
60ft is what I usually assume the distance to be, are you unfamiliar with carnage a little?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
What do you mean its pointless?I still think its a close match my point was concerning storms reflexes vs carnages.
Like on the spiderman vs storm thread, or any storm thread, storm isn't at her max until she leaves into the air.
60ft is what I usually assume the distance to be, are you unfamiliar with carnage a little?
Ive read a few of his appearances and i have "Maximum Carnage" but as im not a regular spiderman reader i always like to defer to others who seem to be clued up on spiderman comics. (I do check up though lol)
My point is you didnt set up an environment or scenario and as a closing comment you just said human durability, Carnages reflexes, Machine gun tendrils, Storms dead. Thats pointless.
Storm on the ground a 20 metres away from Carnage will be able to escape him and get out of reach I.M.O. Its just a case of deciding whether her arsenal can take him out?
Just how susceptible is he to lightning?
Originally posted by GalacticStormBut I do with my threads, I always do, I said a normal inhabited area, 60 feet away.
Ive read a few of his appearances and i have "Maximum Carnage" but as im not a regular spiderman reader i always like to defer to others who seem to be clued up on spiderman comics. (I do check up though lol)My point is you didnt set up an environment or scenario and as a closing comment you just said human durability, Carnages reflexes, Machine gun tendrils, Storms dead. Thats pointless.
Storm on the ground a 20 metres away from Carnage will be able to escape him and get out of reach I.M.O. Its just a case of deciding whether her arsenal can take him out?
Just how susceptible is he to lightning?
Carnage has a mild danger sense, but lightning would hurt him, it would NOT be fatal in anyway.
Carnage isn't street level.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But I do with my threads, I always do, I said a normal inhabited area, 60 feet away.Carnage has a mild danger sense, but lightning would hurt him, it would NOT be fatal in anyway.
Carnage isn't street level.
Well in your introduction post for this thread you made no mention of a scenario, which is why the whole thread came across as pointless when in the end you summed it up in the way you did. Anyway enough of that you have set one up so it doesnt matter.
Given that Storm has easily dodged machine gun fire from about the same distance (i'll see if i can get some scans for tomorrow) and shes dodged Thor (with his enhanced reflexes and ability to throw his hammer at an incredible velocity) throwing Mjolnir from a similar if not smaller distance, id say that she would be able to fly away and get out of his reach.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Well in your introduction post for this thread you made no mention of a scenario, which is why the whole thread came across as pointless when in the end you summed it up in the way you did. Anyway enough of that you have set one up so it doesnt matter.Given that Storm has easily dodged machine gun fire from about the same distance (i'll see if i can get some scans for tomorrow) and shes dodged Thor (with his enhanced reflexes and ability to throw his hammer at an incredible velocity) throwing Mjolnir from a similar if not smaller distance, id say that she would be able to fly away and get out of his reach.
I don't see it being that easily. Again there is a difference in dodging and the marksman missing, the Mjolnir would've ko'ed her so she wouldn't have got hit like that.
Now, 60ft is only to the 20 yard line of a football field, and spiderman has no problems nailing her, so carnage definitely shouldn't.
He can alter the size of his projectiles and whatnot too.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I don't see it being that easily. Again there is a difference in dodging and the marksman missing, the Mjolnir would've ko'ed her so she wouldn't have got hit like that.Now, 60ft is only to the 20 yard line of a football field, and spiderman has no problems nailing her, so carnage definitely shouldn't.
He can alter the size of his projectiles and whatnot too.
No Mjolnir wouldnt have KOed her it would have killed her. After dodging it from close range she turned to see it "punching through skyscrapers like paper"
Why do you keep saying this marksman business. I fail to see the point you're making by bringing it up. Seriously its not clear. You likened Carnages tendrils toa gun and said he can fire them off at a machine gun rate. I then gave you examples of Storm dodging high velocity projectiles (including machine guns and lasers) which she has dodged after being fired at. Are you trying to say Carnage is a flawless marksman? Seriously i fail to see what point you're making.
So what if Spidermans nailed her, thats a low showing for her dodging wise every hero has them. Spiderman gets tagged by a 70 year old man in a vulture suit. You'd have a point if she didnt have so many high showings.
I know they vary in shape and size(the tendrils) but as we're talking about him catching her from the start unless he has psionic control over his detached tendrils (i.e he can redirect them mid projection) then theit varying size or shape really doesnt matter as theyre going to be going in one direction. The place Storm was standing when he aimed.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
No Mjolnir wouldnt have KOed her it would have killed her. After dodging it from close range she turned to see it "punching through skyscrapers like paper"
Exactly. Just saying this you should understand why its hard to believe this would happen in a comic anyways.
This simply isn't a comic book.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Why do you keep saying this marksman business.
Because you are missing the difference between dodging (if I wouldn't have moved, it would have hit me).
Vs missing(I could have stood still and it would have missed), logically you and I know that characters shouldn't sit and dodge machine gun fire, and not on the ground anyways.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I fail to see the point you're making by bringing it up. Seriously its not clear.
Read above.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You likened Carnages tendrils toa gun and said he can fire them off at a machine gun rate
Not quite a gun though, they are very versatile and deadly, I gave you analogy to rate of fire.
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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I then gave you examples of Storm dodging high velocity projectiles (including machine guns and lasers) which she has dodged after being fired at.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Are you trying to say Carnage is a flawless marksman? Seriously i fail to see what point you're making.
Carnage has very high precision accuracy and dexterity, precision shoothing should be little problem at 60 ft.
Carnage is a master of a symbiote, which in turn is a master of itself.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So what if Spidermans nailed her, thats a low showing for her dodging wise every hero has them.
No its not, spiderman has spent decades hitting faster, and far more more powerful things than most any character. Given that carnage is a faster stronger, more merciless and capable character he should hit her fine.
Its not fair to look at one characters history and avoid another, LOOK at all the flying enemies he's kept up with.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Spiderman gets tagged by a 70 year old man in a vulture suit.
Spiderman is the king of plot devices too, he has to worry about civilians and has to be alone with no team.
This is why I like to debate theoretically, because this happens.
I'm not saying she can't dodge it, it just won't be likely.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You'd have a point if she didnt have so many high showings.
likewise.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I know they vary in shape and size(the tendrils) but as we're talking about him catching her from the start unless he has psionic control over his detached tendrils (i.e he can redirect them mid projection)
At a 60 foot distance it seems unecessary.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
then theit varying size or shape really doesnt matter as theyre going to be going in one direction. The place Storm was standing when he aimed.
Storm powers rely on thought, will she know what he's going to do, will she fly foward or backward.
Any part of her nail, is going to take her down most likely, especially the torso and up.