On Geonosis...
When Mace was preping to rescue Obi-Wan and Anakin, he said he would gather all the Jedi he could. Numerous people on this site have mentioned the PT Jedi Order having numbers in the thousands, many Knights and Masters. My question is, why did Mace only take 200? Was it due to transportation or what?
More likely to the fact that he meant all the Jedi he had left in the temple at THAT time. Jedi were peacekeepers spread throughout the galaxy trying to bum smokes off lawbreakers.
Otherwise, how do you explain the fact that like 200 Jedi acted as generals during the war when only like 25 made it off Geonosis alive.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
PT Jedi are quite good actually. They just played a different role than former Jedi.The PT Jedi were spread out across the galaxy, so, there were only 200 avaliable to take. I doubt they abandoned the Temple.
The PT Jedi were pathetic. They all got owned to shit.
Originally posted by Tengu Man
thats a pretty odd thing to say, you opinion and all and i respect that, but why and how do they suck
They were horribly owned by Clones of a bounty hunter. Their swordsmanship sucks, none of them were smart enough to oversee Sidious' plan, and they straight up have horrible tactics.
They deserve death.
What are you saying that the 200 Jedi that were there, were the weakest Jedi? I doubt it if you look at who was there, everybody that survived it was one of the greats of the PT era or would become one of the greats. Those that weren't there didn't become as great, or as famous. And only a few of them actually got to such a level, if any at all.
So why woudl we think those 200 were the weaklings? When there is no evidence for that at all.
Originally posted by Se7in
It's a fact that all the Jedi that died were not martially-skilled, those that did survived. I'm saying, why take only a small number of Jedi, when you know they aren't trained for battle. A larger number would've made the battle easier, and possibly (though maybe the not) less casualties.
The Jedi don't think like that, they would have send the best they coudl at that time. Meaning those 200 Jedi were the best or all they could send. They did not send more to hvae more cannon food.
Interesting topic.
The point is, the entire battle was a blunder by Mace and the jedi. They encircled the arena instead of concentrating their forces (even with a flanking maneuver) on a focal point, and it ended up in them being in the center of the kill zone.
Honestly, there is nothing to indicate that the PT jedi were that good or really that bad in the situation, since they did a major F-up and the battle was a disaster. However, it should be noted that those who survived were the creme de la creme of the jedi order, and went on to be generals in the following Clone Wars battles.
And Glentract, that statement was a bit foolish; of course there are no ancient jedi standing. They're dead.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
A very weird POV, Fishy. Those Jedi killed vast amounts of foes; they were amazing warriors.This idea that 'everything was better in the olden days' is particularly annoying.
Well its true though, these Jedi weren't trained for war. They were killed by droids, other people should have been able to more easily destroy those droids. If they would have actually spend time learning how to block with a lightsaber, if they would have spend time on learning how to use a weapon like that a lot of things would be better for the Jedi.
But they failed. Not because they couldn't be as good but because they refused to be, because they had better things to do and did not get the experience. If so many Jedi can die in such a possition when they have such an advantage at the start... Well i'm sorry but they are doing something wrong. And its not because they couldn't, but because they wouldn't do it the right way.