Originally posted by stormfront13Stormfront, you know that i'm a big admirer of the Weather Witch and that i don't like Cyclops, but in a "high noon duel" like this i have to vote for Scott.
the only other possible outcome is that storm wins. cyke can't win in any way, but judging from the fact that storm has easily dodged cylkes blasts before, says that she has a chance here as well.
Originally posted by wannabe
Stormfront, you know that i'm a big admirer of the Weather Witch and that i don't like Cyclops, but in a "high noon duel" like this i have to vote for Scott.
1. Scott dodged Storms lightnings before, just like she did with his blast.
2. I told that already to GS: On Arkon's planet Storm was collecting enough energy to recharge the life supporting energy rings of a WHOLE PLANET, something Thor himself had to do before!
She was releasing the electrical energy almost at once into Cyclops, who metabolized the electricity to feed the machine that would reinstall the rings.
Yes he was in great pain, but who wouldn't, considering the amount of energy released into him AND STILL he was able to focus and shoot his beam precisely into that strange machine.
OBVIOUSLY he can use electricity, even though it's not the ideal energy form to support his powers. He knows that he has to fight Storm and so will be prepared to dodge her lightning or, if he can't, take it as he did back then.
scott has dodged storms bodyily discharged lightning, but not natural lightning. scott isn't fast enough to dodge natural lightning. his body, mind, and reflexes simply aren't fast enough to dodge natural lightning. he would need to be moving faster than 60,000 miles per second to even have a hope of dodging. his body just isn't fast enough. yes, i realize that scott has absorbed lightning, but when she just randomly shoots it at him, and he is unprepared, and she is out to beat him, then he will get taken out. in the scenario you are talking about, she had to be careful with the energy she fed him, and cykle knew she was feeding him energy. in a fight like this. storm can summon lightning instantley, and it comes and responds to her command instantley. she doesn't even need to hit cyke to beat him. cyke needs to hit storm to win, and storm has dodged his blasts before. now, when storm only needs to hit somewhere near cyke to win, and has dodged his optic blasts numerous times, and cyke can't dodge natural lightning, and needs to hit storm to win even though she has dodged his attacks numerous times, who stands the better chance to win?
She's become pretty skilled over the years but H2H Scott probably still outclasses her.
i beg to differ. storm has a ton of great h3h skills, and cyke has hardly any. if we go by strict comic books, then storm is the better fighter due to the fact that she has been fighting h2h since she was six, and has more showings of h2h skill. to say that cyke is better is PURE speculation due to the fact that cyke doesn't fight h2h a lot, and storm has been shown to have great skills numerous times. recently her skills have taken wolverine by suprise. also, she has beaten marrow h2h while being attacked psionically. the list goes on and on for storm, but it's a short list for cyke.
storm a better hand to hand fighter than scott r u ****IN KIDDIN ME?! theres a limit to fanboyism please, n yes she wont be dodgin a blast when psyclops has his visor off altogetther, that thing is HUGE, not only accordin to the amount of space it covers but its too damn powerful for storm to even think about protectin herself from.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
storm a better hand to hand fighter than scott r u ****IN KIDDIN ME?! theres a limit to fanboyism please, n yes she wont be dodgin a blast when psyclops has his visor off altogetther, that thing is HUGE, not only accordin to the amount of space it covers but its too damn powerful for storm to even think about protectin herself from.
where's the proof that cyke is a getter fighter? we can only go by assumption and when we do that, it is safe to assume storm is the better fighter due to the fact that A) she has been fighting and training longer than cyke has and B) she has better showings at h2h than cyke does. how many feats does cyke have when it comes to fighting h2h? when storm was 12, she KILLED a man when he tried to rape her. a man twice her size, and probably triple her strength, she killed. storm has been fighting and training since she was 6 years old. before her teenage years, she was one of the best fighters in all of cairo, and cairo is a very dangerous place. and yes, as wynndar pointed out, marrow is able to easily keep up with wolverine. when they had their breif point, they both weren't trying. it was basically play for them, and storm defeated marrow while being attacked psionically. also, storm had defeated around 20 of khans most trusted and skilled female bodyguards AFTER being stabbed in the ribs, having her vetebre severly messed up, and having her powers jacked up. she defeated most of them h2h. you are severly underestimating storm when it comes to h2h skills. it would take more time to take off his visor, which means, he could already be knocked out by a lightning bolt. this fight either goes A) storm wins, or B) double K.O
Originally posted by stormfront13
scott has dodged storms bodyily discharged lightning, but not natural lightning. scott isn't fast enough to dodge natural lightning. his body, mind, and reflexes simply aren't fast enough to dodge natural lightning. he would need to be moving faster than 60,000 miles per second to even have a hope of dodging. his body just isn't fast enough. yes, i realize that scott has absorbed lightning, but when she just randomly shoots it at him, and he is unprepared, and she is out to beat him, then he will get taken out. in the scenario you are talking about, she had to be careful with the energy she fed him, and cykle knew she was feeding him energy. in a fight like this. storm can summon lightning instantley, and it comes and responds to her command instantley. she doesn't even need to hit cyke to beat him. cyke needs to hit storm to win, and storm has dodged his blasts before. now, when storm only needs to hit somewhere near cyke to win, and has dodged his optic blasts numerous times, and cyke can't dodge natural lightning, and needs to hit storm to win even though she has dodged his attacks numerous times, who stands the better chance to win?i beg to differ. storm has a ton of great h3h skills, and cyke has hardly any. if we go by strict comic books, then storm is the better fighter due to the fact that she has been fighting h2h since she was six, and has more showings of h2h skill. to say that cyke is better is PURE speculation due to the fact that cyke doesn't fight h2h a lot, and storm has been shown to have great skills numerous times. recently her skills have taken wolverine by suprise. also, she has beaten marrow h2h while being attacked psionically. the list goes on and on for storm, but it's a short list for cyke.
So then you agree that it's pure speculation that Storm is the better fighter as well? I mean, you said it. Cyke doesn't fight a lot. So it's really just pure speculation to assume that Storm is better because she has more showings now isn't it?
Okay. You seem to continue to forget the distance at which they start. Homeplate to first base. 90 feet. Storm is not dodging that blast from Cyke at this range. There is no way. As fast as his blast moves and given the extremely short distance, Storm will be hit dead on.
All he has to do is look at her. His visor opening and the apeture of it are controlled psionically. He looks at her and ZARKT! She's dead.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
So then you agree that it's pure speculation that Storm is the better fighter as well? I mean, you said it. Cyke doesn't fight a lot. So it's really just pure speculation to assume that Storm is better because she has more showings now isn't it?Okay. You seem to continue to forget the distance at which they start. Homeplate to first base. 90 feet. Storm is not dodging that blast from Cyke at this range. There is no way. As fast as his blast moves and given the extremely short distance, Storm will be hit dead on.
All he has to do is look at her. His visor opening and the apeture of it are controlled psionically. He looks at her and ZARKT! She's dead.
well yeah, obviously it's pure speculation that storm is the better fighter due to the fact that they haven't fought 🙄 . i just think that storm would naturally be the better fighter due to the fact that she's been fighting longer, and has better showings of h2h fighting, and more showings of h2h fighting.
storm has dodged cyke at a closer distance. he shot on target, but the blast was to slow, and she got out of the way. now, if she has easily dodged it before, what's to stop her from doing this again?
Originally posted by StyleTime
I seriously doubt that this fight would ever get down to H2H, but I think Storm would win in knife fight.
yeah, i agree that iut wouldn't be a knife fight. but when she was 12, she killed a fully grown man that tried to rape her. she stole his own knife and killed him with it.