Cyclops vs. Storm

Started by Eternal Idol42 pages

Originally posted by stormultt
yes and that is why im done with the subject

You're done because you can't face the fact that she didn't really beat him, but rather, he let her win.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
She managed to remove his visor, and he forfeited because he didn't want to kill anyone. Storm won on a technicality.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
IIRC Madelyne kind of forced him to lose.

Originally posted by -Pr-
1. He was being coerced.
2. He gave up rather than kill Storm with his blasts.
3. He wasn't really up for the fight itself.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Had Shaw decided not to be an arrogant showboating prick about it, he would have one-shotted her. The main thing to point out is that she couldn't handle being smacked around by Shaw's love taps.

She wouldn't hold up against an optic blast if Cyclops intended to hurt her.

Like I said, if we use everything that storm has taken, she would last against one optic blast. Didnt she also take punches from a colossus that was mind controlled.

Originally posted by carver9
Like I said, if we use everything that storm has taken, she would last against one optic blast. Didnt she also take punches from a colossus that was mind controlled.

PIS. She doesn't have the durability needed to take punches from Colossus.

Originally posted by -Pr-
his aim is better than hers, and besides, he's more likely to have her figured out than the opposite way around...

I recall reading that she doesn't even have to aim. If she wants lightening to hit you... it will. I'll check her respect thread and see if I can find whatever scan I'm thinking of.

this is pretty hard to judge.

cyclops is the greatest field leader of the x-men, and storm arguably the second. in terms of strategy and creative use of powers/skills in a fight, cyclops is a forced second due to the sheer scope of power storm has.

but a quick-draw ko could possibly be won by both parties since storm has lightning and cyclops his optic blast. storm though has defenses that cyclops doesn't in the way of wind shields, cyclops is only relegated to dodging.

however, the half mile starting distance might give storm the opportunity to whip up a massive hurricane or some other devastating phenomena to disorient cyke before he can really get a lock on her. and lightning strikes from the sky could take cyke out while storm stays far away obstructed by bad weather.

a "get off my lawn" blast would probably take care of her and anything she creates, but that would kill storm and CIS would hold him back. storm seems more prone to breaking rules in a fight to win, especially if she knows how good her oponent is.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
this is pretty hard to judge.

cyclops is the greatest field leader of the x-men, and storm arguably the second. in terms of strategy and creative use of powers/skills in a fight, cyclops is a forced second due to the sheer scope of power storm has.

but a quick-draw ko could possibly be won by both parties since storm has lightning and cyclops his optic blast. storm though has defenses that cyclops doesn't in the way of wind shields, cyclops is only relegated to dodging.

however, the half mile starting distance might give storm the opportunity to whip up a massive hurricane or some other devastating phenomena to disorient cyke before he can really get a lock on her. and lightning strikes from the sky could take cyke out while storm stays far away obstructed by bad weather.

a "get off my lawn" blast would probably take care of her and anything she creates, but that would kill storm and CIS would hold him back. storm seems more prone to breaking rules in a fight to win, especially if she knows how good her oponent is.


Would Storm's lightning work on Scott? I remember that he once absorbed it and used it to super charge his blast...

cyclops

storm controls the weather and doesn't make it suddenly appear out of thin air.

lighting, to use lighting, she would have to first make the weather such that lighting can be produced. it just doesn't magically appear.

tornado, cyclone etc - same as lightning. winds would have to pickup speed before one appears.

before any of that happens she'd be taken out by cyclops. and no, she can't dodge a forest leveling blast so dodging is out of the question.

cyclops 10000/10

Originally posted by carver9
Storms history tells me that she can withstand at least one optic blast shot from cyke.

She has also taken hits from sebastian shaw

cyke got punched in the face by a sentinel, and is still said to have purely human durability.

Originally posted by carver9
Like I said, if we use everything that storm has taken, she would last against one optic blast. Didnt she also take punches from a colossus that was mind controlled.

so has cyclops. colossus broke his ribs and cyclops still put him and three other x-men down.

Originally posted by Konton
I recall reading that she doesn't even have to aim. If she wants lightening to hit you... it will. I'll check her respect thread and see if I can find whatever scan I'm thinking of.

thinking about it hitting him is stil directing it though, isn't it?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Would Storm's lightning work on Scott? I remember that he once absorbed it and used it to super charge his blast...
hmmm, didn't know about that. seems to be a matter of context (or PIS) since cyclops' power's don't really depend on anything but solar power to open the apertures.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
cyclops

storm controls the weather and doesn't make it suddenly appear out of thin air.

lighting, to use lighting, she would have to first make the weather such that lighting can be produced. it just doesn't magically appear.

tornado, cyclone etc - same as lightning. winds would have to pickup speed before one appears.

before any of that happens she'd be taken out by cyclops. and no, she can't dodge a forest leveling blast so dodging is out of the question.

cyclops 10000/10

storm can project lightning from her hands/body also, she's done so many times without any sort of surrounding phenomena accompanying it. she can also channel a "natural" bolt through herself and direct it at someone/thing.

add to the fact that she can fly as fast and as high as the winds will carry her, even if she had to stick with the channeling of lightning, cyclops would be hard pressed to oneshot her before she could do ....something more times than not.

I want to say it is still close with an edge to Cyclops because of the speed factor.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
cyclops

storm controls the weather and doesn't make it suddenly appear out of thin air.

lighting, to use lighting, she would have to first make the weather such that lighting can be produced. it just doesn't magically appear.

tornado, cyclone etc - same as lightning. winds would have to pickup speed before one appears.

before any of that happens she'd be taken out by cyclops. and no, she can't dodge a forest leveling blast so dodging is out of the question.

cyclops 10000/10

>_>
Funny thing is, allot of the narrations actually state "out of nowhere."

Hurricane winds from "nowhere."

Winds and a flood from "nowhere"

More hurricane winds from "nowhere."

Lightening from "nowhere."

Gale force winds from "nowhere."

Creating lightening from "nowhere."

kbye 😱

is this after she's taken the time to think about conjuring it and using it?

Originally posted by -Pr-
is this after she's taken the time to think about conjuring it and using it?

Well, the first scan says it takes less than a contious thought for her to summon a hurricane. I'll leave you to your own opinions because that can be taken in many different ways.

😖mart:

Originally posted by Konton
Well, the first scan says it takes less than a contious thought for her to summon a hurricane. I'll leave you to your own opinions because that can be taken in many different ways.

😖mart:

😂

she harnessed winds and rain that were already present? not exactly the same as creating it out of thin air.

Originally posted by -Pr-
😂

she harnessed winds and rain that were already present? not exactly the same as creating it out of thin air.

haterrr

Originally posted by Konton
haterrr

not at all. just a realist. 😛

Originally posted by -Pr-
not at all. just a realist. 😛

The other scans are legit "nowhere" feats though.

Originally posted by Konton
The other scans are legit "nowhere" feats though.

not debating that at all. just think he's a bit quicker.

the problem i have with the arguments for storm is that she has different lightning with different capabilities and some people are mixing them up. she has her hand lightning which she can just point and shoot out of her hand, the problem with that is it doesn't seem as powerful as the others and its slow enough even scott has dodged it before. her natural lightning seems to move faster once conjured up but ive yet to see a scan of storm just rockin up to a fight and instantly rain down pin point accurate lightning bolts from the sky without as much as a hand gesture or a cloud in the sky. u cant say he can dodge hand lightning because its slower than natural but then use hand lightning of an example of her conjuring lightning from nowhere. i hope that all made as much sense as it did in my head

Idk. I might be a bit biased. I just feel like Storm's too powerful and versatile to lose to Cyclops power set.

Kind of like how all fanboys hate it when their character is put up against Shadowcat. =p

lol