Cyclops vs. Storm

Originally posted by peejayd
* Storm got high mental powers due to her weather ability, summoning lightning of course, is definitely slower than Cyke turning, looking at her, and blasting the hell out of her, as simp as that...

* hand to hand? Cyke took out 6 thugs with his eyes closed, literally. Storm could never again repeat her "visor-grabbing" technique ever again. in an odd circumstance, Storm could just seduce Cyke with her incredible physique, to distract and defeat him... hehehe...

was all that serious? geniun question, was it serious? unless cyke is faster than the speed of thought, he isn't gonna blast her like you claim. storm could have probably done the same thing with her fighting skills to THUGS. thugs are just common criminals, they have no training in h2h fighting.

Originally posted by stormfront13
was all that serious? geniun question, was it serious? unless cyke is faster than the speed of thought, he isn't gonna blast her like you claim. storm could have probably done the same thing with her fighting skills to THUGS. thugs are just common criminals, they have no training in h2h fighting.

Thugs who had guns, nonetheless. But a blind Cyclops still took them all down.

I highly doubt Storm could pull that off.

I don't think Storm is faster than the speed of thought either. I don't think I've ever seen instantaneous lightning from her before. She always summons it somehow, but it was never just instantly.

Anyway. I've been thinking of something else.

Cyclops. He is a far greater tactician than Storm. If you say otherwise, I've lost all respect for you and won't take you seriously.

Anyhoo. Knowing Cyclops, he knows Storm will take him out as fast as possible. Which means lightning. Now. What's stopping him from dodging AS SOON as the light turns green to fight?

I'm talking like....GO!--:😄ODGE::. If that makes any sense. I, too, have seen Cyclops dodge things like bullet fire (I know lightning is faster, I'm just using bullets as an example) and other things much faster as well.

So what's stopping him from dodging and firing at the same time? A dodge to the left, or a dodge to right, whiling firing his optic blast straight through Storm's heart? Cyclops isn't going to miss her if she isn't already going 300 mph. And remember. They're 90 feet away. Home plate to first base. Cyke will DEFINITELY hit her first more often than not.

So. Cyclops 7.5/10

Cyclops doesn't actually need to reach up to his visor to activate it. . . it's been attuned to his own psionic feild so he can control it that way.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Cyclops doesn't actually need to reach up to his visor to activate it. . . it's been attuned to his own psionic feild so he can control it that way.

I feel dumb. I totally forgot about that. Very true...very true. Which just makes me feel even more positive that Cyke will hit her first.

Even if he didn't have that, he's also got the buttons on his gloves. Right on the thumb. I think that makes his attack so much faster than reaching up to the visor.

Tornado > Optic Blast
Earthquake > Optic Blast
Lighting > Optic Blast

Storm for sure.

So why is it these storm threads never get continued in the original thread where all the evidence against her is?

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Tornado > Optic Blast
Earthquake > Optic Blast
Lighting > Optic Blast

Storm for sure.

A tornado with 350 mph+ winds, I dont think so. That Tornado would pick up scott and kill him.

Inspite of your jedi powers, you completely missed the point.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
So why is it these storm threads never get continued in the original thread where all the evidence against her is?

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Tornado > Optic Blast
Earthquake > Optic Blast
Lighting > Optic Blast

Storm for sure.

Too bad she'll have absolutely no time to do this while she's getting made into swiss cheese by Cyclops.

He will blast her instantly. No need to prolong the fight any longer than it has to be.

* and the Jedi is surely a Cyclops-hater...

* tornado, earthquake and lightning... as i was saying, BEFORE Storm can summon this catastrophe, Cyke had already blasted her... you got any sense of rationalization?

* think... think... think...

* first, Storm will summon them, saying, "rise! winds!" all the while, ZZZARK!!! getz it?

Originally posted by peejayd
* and the Jedi is surely a Cyclops-hater...

* tornado, earthquake and lightning... as i was saying, BEFORE Storm can summon this catastrophe, Cyke had already blasted her... you got any sense of rationalization?

* think... think... think...

* first, Storm will summon them, saying, "rise! winds!" all the while, ZZZARK!!! getz it?

This still seems to be a draw where they hit each other at the start of the fight. . .

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Storm relies on psionics and extra powers to aid her, cyclops is alot more physically involved. THAT makes him physically fitter than strom.

You aren't grasping that, cyclops is an athlete, look it up, and look up the word.

It isn't speculation, this is a theoretical match, I'm using whats presented by the character to make a logical decision.

So if gambit was vs galactus, would you say that galactus winning is mere speculation? That held little merit?

That is a naive analogy and completely ineffective. CM that was awful lol. The difference being that Storm may have all these powers but she still engages in intensive regular exercise, its something all X-men are taught to do whatever powers they have. You have no evidence to state that Cyclops is physically fitter and until you do any comments stating that to be the case are speculation and have no value here.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Cyclops doesn't actually need to reach up to his visor to activate it. . . it's been attuned to his own psionic feild so he can control it that way.

Sorry Cresh but thats not quite right:

While the width of Cyclops blast is decided via this psionic field, to actually emit a blast he must press either one of the two aforementioned buttons. I may have misinterpreted you Cresh im not quite sure lol.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wow.

That was brilliant, GS. I commend you, seriously. I have never before, in all my life, seen someone take that split second gesture of Cyke's and stretch it out to make it sound like several minutes. Kudos.

But seriously now. There won't be any unnecessary strategy-thinking on Cyke's part. Cyclops just needs to look at her. And he'll easily be able to do so. She's standing 90 feet from him. His hand will already be on his visor/hand switch, where it always is when he's preparing for a battle/in battle.

I know lightning is fast, just not as fast as the length of time it would take for him to shoot her down. I know how Storm works, too. She would have to think about the attack and then mentally call down the lightning. The moment the lightning is forming and JUST about to strike, Cyke has already shot a beach ball-sized hole through her. You make it sound as if his aiming will take him forever to do. Wherever he looks, he hits.

Cyclops wins 8/10.

At the end of the day Metalmanx they are all the processes both Cyclops and Storm will have to go through. Unless Cyclops can move at the speed of thought then any physical process is going to be considerably slower than a psionic one.

As you can see from the bio Cyclops has to decide to shoot, he then has to decide on the intensity of the blast, he then must send a signal to his hands to press one of the visor triggers, then he must physically aim.

Storm must decide to shoot, decide on the intensity, then aim psionically. All procesess before the actual projectile itself are psionic in comparison to Cyclops very physical steps. That cannot be denied. Storm will simply be able to get a blast out faster in a quick fire draw.

Metalmanx dont be ridiculous, coming from a person who apparrently "knows how Storm works too" why is she gonna have to call down a bolt of lightning when she can project it herself from her body with a thought. Such a discharge is virtually instantaneous and triggered and directed with a thought. Quicker than Cyclops' very physical visor operation and aiming (lining up Storm in his line of sight)

Originally posted by Creshosk
Cyclops doesn't actually need to reach up to his visor to activate it. . . it's been attuned to his own psionic feild so he can control it that way.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
That is a naive analogy and completely ineffective. CM that was awful lol. The difference being that Storm may have all these powers but she still engages in intensive regular exercise, its something all X-men are taught to do whatever powers they have. You have no evidence to state that Cyclops is physically fitter and until you do any comments stating that to be the case are speculation and have no value here.

Answer my questions and quit accusing me of stuff and calling me biased, because I'm only biased towards you guys really.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Good point there...

If you'd read my post and read the scan you'd see that isnt quite right. His psionic field allows him to adjust the intensity of his blasts. Cyclops needs the visor so that he can emit the blasts in a controlled manner. He controls the emission via the two buttons ive already talked about

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I gave it to you and you ignored it, logic classes anyone?

Answer my questions and quit accusing me of stuff and calling me biased, because I'm only biased towards you guys really.

Ask me a question now and i'll answer. If i didnt at the time its because subsequent posts in my eyes dealt with your queries. Go ahead.