thats not a very accurate statement...and magneto has never used his control over the EM to denature anyone's atoms...i think you are confused..magneto can control energies in the EM to a certain degree...the strongest wavelength of his power is in the magnetism department...give an example of him deatomizing anyone
. Furthermore, Hulk is much stronger than Apocalypse, how you can 'begin to argue' otherwise proves you don't know much about the Hulk.
Uhmm, apocalypse upper strength has not been elucidated(unless I'm mistaken), he takes additional mass and energy from outside sources, and it is said to be without bound and in any case Apocalypse can alter the atomic structure of his body at will in order to change his form, through this ability, Apocalypse can give himself virtually any superhuman physical power. Uhmm, couldn't he just use some telepathy and fuxxor the hulk(or is the hulk immune to telepathy).
In any case even if that does not work, apocalypse can teleport himself and others, from what I've heard. He'd just port hulk into outer space and leave him there, or near the sun(where the gravity would drag him in)... if the hulk can withstand a dip into the sun, I'd like to know what KINDA enemies he has now.
(before it's asked again) He's not taken over the world cause he was waiting till the earth got filled with mutants, and likes it to be done by struggle between groups. He also often simply toys with his enemies, and if they're fit he just let's them go, in the olden days from what I hear.. Evil writers have been fckng with him, cause they know his powers are just too much and it shows especially after what they did to him recently(they better bring him back).
magneto cannot control the iron in 'hulk's blood. 1st there is not enough actual iron for mags to concentrate on and hulk would over power mags feeble attempts at trying to control the iron in hulk's blood. there is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
He could send metal objects, say adamantium spikes at high speed(extremely hot) down hulks throat(he always opens it), or up his you know what. And assuming hulks digestive track ain't super armored, he could move it extremely fast and liquify the hulk internally, he keeps filling his body with adamantium or some other tough stuff, filling the space of the organs that bleed out of hulk's behind, and then he send him far off into space as a cold stuffed hulk.
Hulk's blood is green. So, his blood is immovable.
Uhmm maybe there's iron, but there's some other more concentrated stuff that gives it the green color... what if it's a metallic compound that gives hulk his skin color, and blood color?
Here's some interesting stuff:
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**The Juggernaut fought the Merged Hulk in The Incredible Hulk#402 but while it was pretty good it doesn't rank in the Top 5 Juggernaut battles. Cain attacked the Hulk while wearing streetclothes instead of the Juggernaut armor so that the Hulk would not know who he was. By the time Hulk realized he was fighting someone that powerful it was too late and he'd found himself being beaten senseless. The Red Skull had to order Cain to stop before he pummelled the Hulk to death.***Juggernaut and Hulk fought again,sorta,in The Incredible Hulk #457. I say "sorta" because what he fought wasn't really Hulk as we know him,but War,the horseman of Apocalypse. As War Hulk's strength was boosted significantly by Celestial technology which enabled him to draw as much power as he needed on command from the entire Heroes Reborn universe. And just for icing,Apocalypse also bestowed War with Celestial weaponry of untold power. Needless to say The Juggernaut didn't stand up too shiningly against a deck that stacked and pretty much just got knocked around. An opportunity for a classic battle pretty much tossed away in favor of a rather pointless mismatch. Very disappointing.
Of course it seems now the hulk's vastly more powerful. from what I've heard in this, he's in a supes-pre-crisis, god-like cable state.
Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
The iron blood thing won't work on Hulk. I don't even know why people are beinging that up, Hulk's healing factor is too great for one.Anyway, to say that that someone's blood has to be saturated is nonsense. In the movie, the security guards blood had to be saturated, because Mangeto wan't using the man's iron to control his body, he was using it to break out of prison. There's enough iron in a person's body to control thier blood, but not enough to break out of prison. Do you see the difference?
And no, it takes Magneto little or no effort to control the iron in a person's blood. For one, it's metal, Mags can control metal in his sleep, and second, he ****in builds cities in the sky, you think he'd have a problem with the iron in someone's blood? That's just ignorance.
Like hell it is. It's ignorance to think Magneto can read the paper or something and control the iron in Hulk's blood. That's not going to happen. He would have to concentrate because Hulk is not Mr. Fat Security Guard. Magneto is arguably the most powerful mutant on the planet, no doubt, but you people need to stop confusing him with God. There is a difference. Hulk is not a fat security guard, you aren't going to manipulate the iron in his blood without doing some serious concentrating while trying not to get broken in half.
Originally posted by En Saba Nur
Uhmm, apocalypse upper strength has not been elucidated(unless I'm mistaken), he takes additional mass and energy from outside sources, and it is said to be without bound and in any case Apocalypse can alter the atomic structure of his body at will in order to change his form, through this ability, Apocalypse can give himself virtually any superhuman physical power. Uhmm, couldn't he just use some telepathy and fuxxor the hulk(or is the hulk immune to telepathy).In any case even if that does not work, apocalypse can teleport himself and others, from what I've heard. He'd just port hulk into outer space and leave him there, or near the sun(where the gravity would drag him in)... if the hulk can withstand a dip into the sun, I'd like to know what KINDA enemies he has now.
(before it's asked again) He's not taken over the world cause he was waiting till the earth got filled with mutants, and likes it to be done by struggle between groups. He also often simply toys with his enemies, and if they're fit he just let's them go, in the olden days from what I hear.. Evil writers have been fckng with him, cause they know his powers are just too much and it shows especially after what they did to him recently(they better bring him back).
He could send metal objects, say adamantium spikes at high speed(extremely hot) down hulks throat(he always opens it), or up his you know what. And assuming hulks digestive track ain't super armored, he could move it extremely fast and liquify the hulk internally, he keeps filling his body with adamantium or some other tough stuff, filling the space of the organs that bleed out of hulk's behind, and then he send him far off into space as a cold stuffed hulk.
Uhmm maybe there's iron, but there's some other more concentrated stuff that gives it the green color... what if it's a metallic compound that gives hulk his skin color, and blood color?
What the hell?? There's actually someone left who doesn't know Hulk gets his skin color from the GAMMA IRRADIATION! Iron? What the hell is wrong with people!
I love when people come up with absurd circumstances like 'Apocalypse can stuff his ass with adamantium.' Yeah, and Hulk can bend Apocalypse's ass into a pretzel, tie him to a balloon, and walk around the fair with a candy apple in his other hand. But things like that don't happen. Opponents, no matter how evil they are, don't fight like that.
people need to stop mixing up the Movie with the comics, in the comics magneto could of had broken out of jail easily if it was the same set up as it was in the movie, mystique wouldnt need to have injected that guy with iron. This is the guy that has the power to destroy the earth if he wanted, but he doesnt b/c thats not his vision/goal/whatever. Also Hulk is not the most powerful, he is the STRONGEST depending on how mad he can get. If you want to compare with the movies. Did you see how slow hulk regenerated? and by how little dmg he took and that "big" scratch" he had? Magneto could pick up one of those tank shells straight to hulks neck, bye bye! but see, we are talking about the comics, not about the MOVIE. (oh yeah im half asleep so excuse the misspellings! )
1st) of all ...: god were dorks.
2nd)...:its the concept behind the two characters. hulk is diliberately this powerful because it is a symbol that stan lee was trying to make on society. mags is a different concept all together. he is much more complex and it was over a period of time that hise character grew in different ways. there are in fact at least four or five completely seperate stages of his life. the symbolisims with mags are on a more complex level dealing with the haulocost.
magneto had a very hard and interesting life. he could even be described as 'mad' at time in his life.
here is a great link on magneto's history:]
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Keep/4026/MagnetoBio.html
hulk is about the classic monster in all of us. jekyl and hyde. it means more to the company of marvel (ala marvel universe) to have the winner of this match the more symbolic, in which we can all relate to the hulk, as to we cant all possibly attempt to empathize with mags because his pain and suffering is something that us normal people should'nt and dont know. something we cant relate to. this is why hulk is such a popular guy with his comic book and everythng. very rare because in the early sixties it was more popular to go with several heroes (ala teams) togetehr to hold a comic title going (at least for marvel...for the exception of spiderman). so if this was truely a 'marvel' tale, and not 'fanfiction', then hulk would win. no arguement. but. if this was fanfiction, it is as far as our imaginations (and patience) will take it.
but in the 'marvel univerese' HULK will be the victorious one of the two.