Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Are you ****ing stupid? I mean seriously, I said at the beginning of the post that YOU QUOTED, that contolling the iron in Hulk's blood [b]would not work. Then you go on to argue with me that Magneto can't control the Hulk using the iron in his blood.Wow. That was just...I'm speechless. That was the most retarded thing I have ever seen.
Sorry, but you've just lost all credibility. [/B]
No, I assure you I'm quite superior in intellect in comparison to you, but believe what you like. I know what you said, and immediately following what you said, you stated how Magneto wouldn't have to concentrate to manipulate the iron in blood. Yes he would. One must concentrate to use his powers, regardless of how strong they might be. To say he can't manipulate Hulk's iron but he doesn't have to concentrate to manipulate someone's blood is basically arguing against yourself. Sure, you'll come back with 'I meant someone else's blood' but that's not what we were talking about. Magneto and Hulk. Not the fat security guard in the movie. Nevertheless, he does have to concentrate.
You never had any credibility to begin with anyway.
"Like hell it is. It's ignorance to think Magneto can read the paper or something and control the iron in Hulk's blood. That's not going to happen. He would have to concentrate because Hulk is not Mr. Fat Security Guard. Magneto is arguably the most powerful mutant on the planet, no doubt, but you people need to stop confusing him with God. There is a difference. Hulk is not a fat security guard, you aren't going to manipulate the iron in his blood without doing some serious concentrating while trying not to get broken in half."
I am not going to argue anymore, b/c it's obvious that we (the supporters of differing sides of this argument) are never going to change each other's minds, but I would like to say in reply to this previous post that most of us are not confusing magneto with god...if anything it is the hulk supporters who are doing this. Every valid argument that magneto supporters post, some hulk advocate just comes back with, "He could never to that to the hulk; the hulk is too strong." Even when Mags' people are posting senarios that Magneto has proven to be well withing his range of capabilities.
Originally posted by wrathofachilles
No, I assure you I'm quite superior in intellect in comparison to you, but believe what you like. I know what you said, and immediately following what you said, you stated how Magneto wouldn't have to concentrate to manipulate the iron in blood. Yes he would. One must concentrate to use his powers, regardless of how strong they might be. To say he can't manipulate Hulk's iron but he doesn't have to concentrate to manipulate someone's blood is basically arguing against yourself. Sure, you'll come back with 'I meant someone else's blood' but that's not what we were talking about. Magneto and Hulk. Not the fat security guard in the movie. Nevertheless, he does have to concentrate.You never had any credibility to begin with anyway.
HAHAHA. Hm, now I will use quotes as proof that I'm right. Woot! Go intelligence! Something you apparently lack.
Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
The iron blood thing won't work on Hulk. I don't even know why people are beinging that up, Hulk's healing factor is too great for one.
Your response?
Oringinally posted by wrathofachilles
Like hell it is. It's ignorance to think Magneto can read the paper or something and control the iron in Hulk's blood. That's not going to happen. He would have to concentrate because Hulk is not Mr. Fat Security Guard.
Real nice there. You got me cold. 🙄
Arachnoidfreak
Anyway, to say that that someone's blood has to be saturated is nonsense. In the movie, the security guards blood had to be saturated, because Mangeto wan't using the man's iron to control his body, he was using it to break out of prison. There's enough iron in a person's body to control thier blood, but not enough to break out of prison. Do you see the difference?And no, it takes Magneto little or no effort to control the iron in a person's blood. For one, it's metal, Mags can control metal in his sleep, and second, he ****in builds cities in the sky, you think he'd have a problem with the iron in someone's blood? That's just ignorance.
and...your response:
wrathofachilles
Magneto is arguably the most powerful mutant on the planet, no doubt, but you people need to stop confusing him with God. There is a difference. Hulk is not a fat security guard, you aren't going to manipulate the iron in his blood without doing some serious concentrating while trying not to get broken in half.
Where do you see that I'm adressing Hulk!? Where did I say Magneto can use the iron in Hulk's blood to win!? Also, I didn't say he didn't need to concentrate, I said "it takes Magneto little or no effort". You concentrate when you write, yet it takes little or no effort, does it not?
Stop misreading and misunderstanding what I write.
And I am victorious again! Suck on that.
Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
HAHAHA. Hm, now I will use quotes as proof that I'm right. Woot! Go intelligence! Something you apparently lack.'HAHAHA' as you say. I would run circles around you sport.
Your response?
Real nice there. You got me cold. 🙄
and...your response:
Where do you see that I'm adressing Hulk!? Where did I say Magneto can use the iron in Hulk's blood to win!? Also, I didn't say he didn't need to concentrate, I said "it takes Magneto little or no effort". You concentrate when you write, yet it takes little or no effort, does it not?
Stop misreading and misunderstanding what I write.
And I am victorious again! Suck on that.
I WAS ADDRESSING HULK! That's the entire point of this thread, Magneto vs. Hulk. I'm not talking about Magneto vs. Joe Blow. MY point was Magneto needs a great deal of concentration to do anything to the Hulk, regardless of his power. If you didn't say he didn't need to concentrate, why are you bitching about this? You're not victorious smart ass, you're simply arguing something that doesn't need to be argued. And perhaps I misread what you said, but you did the same to me.
Originally posted by wrathofachilles
I WAS ADDRESSING HULK! That's the entire point of this thread, Magneto vs. Hulk. I'm not talking about Magneto vs. Joe Blow. MY point was Magneto needs a great deal of concentration to do anything to the Hulk, regardless of his power. If you didn't say he didn't need to concentrate, why are you bitching about this? You're not victorious smart ass, you're simply arguing something that doesn't need to be argued. And perhaps I misread what you said, but you did the same to me.
Wait for it...
Originally posted by wrathofachilles
You're not listening. Yeah Hulk probably has SOME iron in his blood, everyone does; but Magneto cannot just control the iron in everyone's blood, otherwise he'd blink and every X-Man that went up against him would be dead! The iron has to literally saturate the blood and even then the body has to be weak and easily controlled. Hulk does not have a weak body and like I said, on the off-chance Mystique succeeded in pumping iron into Hulk's ass, Magneto would probably pop a vein concentrating so hard to pull the iron through his skin or trying to crush his regenerative organs. Not going to happen. Period.
Originally posted by wrathofachilles
Who mentioned that? I never heard about the Superman thing. I just know the Onslaught saga, which don't get me wrong, was utterly, utterly atrocious.People need to get over this 'Magneto controlling the iron in the blood' crap. If you recall in X2, iron had to be pumped into that guy's bloodstream for that to work. I don't think Mystique is going to be successful in seducing Hulk so she can pump iron into his blood. Besides, the needle would break off when she tries to stick it in his ass. Magnet's not going to win that way, period.
Originally posted by wrathofachilles
Yes I know it's the movie, but it's a reference to everyone thinking Magneto walks around pulling iron out of peoples' bodies. That just doesn't happen. I know he has controlled the iron in his enemies' blood before, I remember thinking before the first X-Men came out: 'I wonder if they'll have Magneto manipulate the iron in someone's blood because that was cool' but you have to realize he can't do it as simple as that. It takes a lot of concentration and a person has to have an extraordinary amount of iron in the blood. If whatever X-Man he fought that time had a big steak dinner earlier, of course he's going to have a bit more iron than usual. But there's a fundamental difference: that X-Man was not a gamma-irradiated being whose blood is off the charts and whose body is not only bullet-proof but completely regenerative. Magneto cannot control Hulk's blood.
These were the posts I responded to, where I agreed with you that Hulk WOULD NOT be controlled by the iron in his blood, and THEN pointed out that you were wrong about a person's iron blood count having to be high for Magneto to control him.
So yes, you sort of addressed Hulk(in the bold), and no, you sort of didn't(in the itallics). I adressed you on BOTH points. And you tried to argue.
(Note: There's no hostility in this post, I'm just making a point.)
.....a hard disicion.....the madder hulk gets, the stronger he becomes....neone see collosus surpass mag's power and beat the mess out of him? Sure mag was handeling a lot of other things a the same time, like everyone else, and the floating city, but Hulk beats Collosus in strength (ever increasing) and will power (ever increasing) and durability (ever increasing) and rage......ditto.........
Hulk has a homing power, in which, he moves toward a desired person at will while in the air even against an opposing force. Basically if Hulk leaps at you......nothing is stopping him, not metal, not magnetism, not nylon(Avengers, Antman tried to trap Hulk by catching him midjump through a circus tent.....Hulk got caught, and then forced more momentum in mid-air and continued a mile {or maybe more} long jump). With that, I give it to Hulk. Stronger and Stronger, and Stronger.....Hulk Smash U!
I have to disagree w/ you because there is a huge difference between Magneto wrapping a metal band around the hulk with a few thousand tons of pressure and the hulk breaking through a tent (requiring about 100 pounds of pressure). On the ground, Magneto may not be strong enough to stop hulk from walking toward him, but in the air, it's all Mags.