Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Wouldn't all that be like trying to give an unwilling kid a haircuit on a trampoline?
LMAO
Naw, cause magneto just needs to shove it into hulk then he can force it into his digestive/blood/respiratory/nervous system and move it along from there. Don't forget, he can apply 'class 100' strength on any metal, even a needle.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
LMAONaw, cause magneto just needs to shove it into hulk then he can force it into his digestive/blood/respiratory/nervous system and move it along from there. Don't forget, he can apply 'class 100' strength on any metal, even a needle.
Still. Magneto can't see exactly where the metal is inside of Hulk. He has a rough idea but it's not precise.
Hulk is quite mobile so getting something inside of him in the first place would be hard. Try to push blades into somebody and they'll surely pull back and try to dodge them.
Keeping it inside of him while trying to navigate his innards blindly would be harder still. If Magneto is manually manuvering the pieces inside of Hulk, he'd have to keep the same speed and direction as him or they could fly right out of Hulk if he changes direction too quick.
While Magneto is micromanaging all of this, Hulk is still roaming and getting stronger.
A mountain that dwarfed the andies could not be picked up by anyone, the hulk included. Maybe not because of a lack of strength, but because the mountain would crumble around whoever was trying to pick it up. Hulk is what, 12-15 feet tall? that means 14-20 foot arm span. set something a mile long on top of something 14 feet wide, and it crumbles. Let alone something the size of the andies.
In response to tuna's last reply, Mags would not have to worry about he metal coming back out the other side because it would near all Mags could do get the metal through hulk's skin in the first place. Once it was inside his body, Magneto could just stop applying thousands of tons of pressure and it could never bust back through hulk's skin. And as I've said before, once the metal was in hulk, mags only needs to levitate him a few feet off the ground (which would be simple for him since hulk only weighs a few thousand pounds) and hulk is completely powerless against him.
why are you arguing about what is possible to do to a mountain? This is a thread about 2 ficticious characters, one a mutant with the ability to control magnetism and the other a monster with unlimited strength created in a gamma bomb. And ur arguing about what is possible?...these are comics...people do stuff like that all the time, Superman punching bizzaro through the earth into china, silver surfer rearranging matter with "the power cosmic"...get it?...not real..
By the way, Hulk did lift that mountain, again demonstrating how much more powerful he is than mags.
As far as mags and the metal goes, he only has to wait until hulk jumps at him and then throw the metal in his path, hulk's not going to be shifting his jump mid-air. When the metal is inside of him, Mags can just lift him off the ground, and then manipulate the metal inside of him. If he did try to do it the way you described though, yeah... it wouldn't work right.
If you're talking about the Secret Wars mountain-thing : forget it, very bad writing. Hulk was calm then (or at least not angry), and suddenly (5 seconds maybe) he became millions of time stronger, where in ALL other cases an already furious Hulk gets his ass handed to him for a while before he eventually gets 2 or 3 or even 4 times stronger...
Very very bad writing...
Originally posted by turboman1691
In response to tuna's last reply, Mags would not have to worry about he metal coming back out the other side because it would near all Mags could do get the metal through hulk's skin in the first place. Once it was inside his body, Magneto could just stop applying thousands of tons of pressure and it could never bust back through hulk's skin. And as I've said before, once the metal was in hulk, mags only needs to levitate him a few feet off the ground (which would be simple for him since hulk only weighs a few thousand pounds) and hulk is completely powerless against him.
Hulk's still going to be moving. He'd probably end up tearing the metal out himself by struggling.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Hulk's still going to be moving. He'd probably end up tearing the metal out himself by struggling.
And effectivly tearing out his organs too. Like with wolverine, hell have to hold his organs in while his flesh heals, meanwhile magneto can just sever his spine and he'll take months to recover like the last time he had spinal injuries.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
And effectivly tearing out his organs too. Like with wolverine, hell have to hold his organs in while his flesh heals, meanwhile magneto can just sever his spine and he'll take months to recover like the last time he had spinal injuries.
How big are these pieces of metal you're talking about?
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Dont have to be big, he just has to spread it enough to encase his heart, then hulk has to either rip out his own heart or suffer as magneto squeezes it. Hell, thinner better so hulk can't get a grip without digging into himself
Again, trying to target a specific area blindly on a moving target.
And I didn't mean Hulk manually ripping it out, I mean either going against Magneto's force so that the metal exits another way (and heals) or, if Magneto is manually moving the metal around in space and not just pushing it in one direction, drawing back so the metal is out of his body.
your exactly right swanky, but since these other guys dont seem to know much about comics, since i havent seen them quote or refer to any comic material, they are basically making stuff up.
why would we assume magneto is capable of this...he has never attempted that kind of attack on anyone, let alone anyone as strong as the Hulk...again, he cant do half of that stuff because Hulk is simply way faster than him. your argument is very onesided and not based on any previous comic material. Hulk has trashed plenty of people with powers similar and greater than magneto's...magneto is only a fraction as powerful as Onslaught. The only way Hulk would lose by standing still and getting his organs ripped out, is if you guys wrote the story. You still havent quoted anything Magneto has done in the past to support he could even stand a chance against Hulk. This thread has volumes of the Hulk's previous feats throughout.
True, I really haven't read anything from Hulk or Mags, I'm not going to say I have. But I mean, I've seen him lift an asteroid into space, pull adamantium out of wolverine's pores, and all sorts of neat stuff. As far as Hulk goes, I've seen him get angry and beat people who tried to use physical force against him. But the point I'm trying to make is that Magneto wont try to use force, he'll use something tricky. Just because he hasn't done it doesn't mean he can't. I mean, have you ever seen mr.Fantastic enlarge his special spot? If he can't, then why did Sue name him Mr. Fantastic? 😉
I'll grant you that comics are not real, but that doesn't change the fact that we should be able to debate the characters (based on the powers they are supposed to have) in a real setting. Both characters have been the victim of bad writing. The only difference is that the bad writing on Hulk's side makes him much stronger than he should be (the example who-kid talked stated earlier), and the bad writing on Mag's side makes him much weaker than he should be (the numerous scientific examples stated earlier by various people based on the fact that Mags controls the EM spectrum and ALL related energies).