Magneto vs The Hulk

Hulk suffered a spinal injury and took months to heal... sooooo... Magneto shoves a metal girder through his head and he wins the prize. It's really not that hard to comprehend. Magneto just has to fly up into the air, morh his helmet into a nice metal ball and when hulk leaps at him, thrust it through his forehead and into his brain. Then have it explode into shrapnel, shredding hulk's teeny little brain (Unless it's Prof. Hulk, then its his big brain)

Hulk's weakness is his reliance on having to physicly hit something faster, smarter, and more versatile then him.

"Shoving" things into people as durable as Hulk would most likely just cause them to spin in midair.

I don't know when that spinal injury happened but it certainly doesn't apply today. Were talking present Magnus vs Present Hulk right?

Takes the hulk 7:18 minutes to recover from...well being completely torn to piece by mutated cockroaches. His internal organs were gone, eyes, skin, most muscle tissues... there was basicaly a skeleton with some meat left.... 7:18 minutes.

As for shoving a piece of metal in Hulk's brain well... I dunno...might work. but why bother, just throw him and everyone else into space...

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
"Shoving" things into people as durable as Hulk would most likely just cause them to spin in midair.

Especially with that whole 'class 100' strength going on, and it being ya know, razor sharp... because Magneto CAN change the properties of metal. -_-"

I love ya swanky, in the least homosexual way possible, but now yer just clingin' ta lost hope me boy.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Especially with that whole 'class 100' strength going on, and it being ya know, razor sharp... because Magneto CAN change the properties of metal. -_-"

I love ya swanky, in the least homosexual way possible, but now yer just clingin' ta lost hope me boy.

I honestly don't know what Magneto's helmet is made of, but are you saying Magneto can take a roll of tinfoil and turn it into a razor-sharp guillotine with the strength to cut though Hulk? I don't buy that.

Heh, I'm not a big fan of Hulk *or* Magneto, I just like debating things. Especially when they're trying to be ended on plans like "catapult into space" or "trying to cut though a quarter inch space with no vision of the area in a moving target"

Magneto's helmet is like a quarter inch thick... besides he only has to turn it into a pencil then drive it into hulks brain before causing it to explode.

But how durable is the helmet? That's the million dollar question! What's that puppy made out of!?

that doens't matter, w/ a few thousand tons of pressure being exerted on it from all sides, it's durable enough to withstand whatever it needs to withstand. a napkin cannot suppor the weight of a bowling ball without ripping, but put the napkin on a table and set the ball on top of it, (a similar concept) and the napkin will not rip.

It does. If the napkin is too thin, it'll get damaged by the bowling ball anyway.

Think more along the putting a pencil inside a big blob of plastic with only the very tip out. When that drives into hulk's skin, magneto will release the force like a banna peal as it enters...

FORCE
VVVVVVVVVV
=========> ( O O )
^^^^^^^ ) o (

VVVVVVV
=======(=O>O )
^^^^^^ ) o (

See? XD

My animation rocks.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Think more along the putting a pencil inside a big blob of plastic with only the very tip out. When that drives into hulk's skin, magneto will release the force like a banna peal as it enters...

FORCE
VVVVVVVVVV
=========> ( O O )
^^^^^^^ ) o (

VVVVVVV
=======(=O>O )
^^^^^^ ) o (

See? XD

My animation rocks.

That ascii visual aid makes me question my life. I can't stop looking at it...

Before we get into "trying to guide metal though the eyesocks of a moving target".... How strong are Hulk's bones?

Probably as strong as a normal human's proportionate to his size.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Probably as strong as a normal human's proportionate to his size.

Hmm... we'll have to let this thread sink into the unknown, unresolved, until an expert can inform us.

But we have no experts, only people who make assumptions and guesses (Myself included) on these two characters. I have yet to see a scan or issue reference... IRC.

this may be completely wrong, but does it make sense to anyone else, based on the fact that he controls magnetics (something that has unlimited power) that magneto's strength (while within his distance range and while not exhausting himself) is limitless? I don't know what his distance is, but say 500 feet for arugments sake. Couldn't he lift anything he wanted, regardless of weight, within that 500 feet? Again, this could be completely wrong but based on how his power works, it only makes logical sense

how does magnetics have unlimited power?

i dont think it would work that easily, there has to be a limit to how much metal he can manipulate within a certain radius

this is what i like to call a concept battle, theres not enough of what we need to actually have a decision on who would win, either by reference or comic book experience, so we basically give ideas like "if he can do this then he'll be able to do that"

it just seems to me that with enough magnetic force, anything magnetic will move, regardless of how heavy it is. Heavyier stuff just takes more force. a refridgerator magnet might pick up a paper clip but not a set of car keys. A mag. for use in a garage will pick up the car keys but not a large hammer. An industrial magnet will pick up the hammer but not the car, a super magnet will pick up a car. It just takes more magnetic filed to be able to pick up more stuff. If Mags can manipulate all magnetic fields, he should theoritically be able to move anything within his distance range. Like I said, I have no basis for this whatsoever, but it does make good sense.

electromagnetism has a definete limit...at leat in the universe that you and i live in. if electromagnetism was virtually limitless, the magnetic pull of the earth would seperate our atoms, also, electromagnetism is not nearly as strong enough to over come the nuclear force that holds the electrons and nuetrons togetehr inside the nucleaus of an atom on an atomic level. magnetism can manipulate the element of metals, but CANNOT manipulate the atoms or atomic structure of metals. there is a profound difference. and since the power that gives the hulk his strength is from a nuclear force, then i conclude that hulk would win over magneto simply for the fact that magneto's powers are not as strong as the hulks strength.

our atoms could be seperated, just not by the pull of the earth b/c huge amounts of magnetic fields (or very strong magnetic fields to use physisit talk) do not amass in particular area of the earth; they are spread out throughout our planet, and universe. That is why metal on earth doesn't just float around as a result of strong magnetic (B fields) forces. But that is not to say that those forces are not strong enough to lift that metal, or seperate our atoms. The fields that surround us nomrally are just not that strong. Now I'm sure it would take a great deal more to rip apart the hulk's atoms than it would our own, and I don't know if Magneto can rip beings atoms apart or not so I'm not even going to attempt to make that argument.

I will say, however, that it seems as though Mags' power seems like it should be almost limitless (within his area, and his duration), and if that is the case, he could wrap telephone poles around hulk's neck, arms and legs and rip him appendage from trunk. Also mag's could do this very quickly, before Hulk had time to anger, and he should be more than powerful enough to do this at the beginning of the fight. If he waits an hour for hulk to get super pissed off, he'd might (if his powers are not limitless within his range) have to find another way to defeat him, which I am still sure he could do.

None of these hero's have Unlimited power in their field. Johnny Storm can't draw the Sun to the earth. Iceman can't draw the trillions of ice meteors between Neptune and Pluto to earth.
The Hulk can't draw beyond his own anger and tap others to add fuel to his rage. The Hulks strength is therefore limited to his own anger. Understand!
I personally think Magneto is far more powerful than the Hulk.
He can rip through a full body train almost instantly where the hulk would have to do it one car at a time.
Wage the difference against eachother and the inevitable outcome is the death of the Green Giant