Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
He's wrap Hulk in a hugs sphere of metal, and propel him into orbit. No more Hulk. Sure, it's the cheap way out, but it's quick and efficient.
Magneto's never done it before, why would anyone assume that he could do such a thing to someone as strong or as big as Hulk?
Magneto's powers are very vast and can be used to almost any effect...but someone tried to point out that Hulk's powers are on the atomic level, in Hulk's defense....however, it is more complicated than that...Hulk's powers come from a different dimension that was created when he became the Hulk...like most superhumans in his case, who acquired their powers from radiation, like the FF or UFOES...his powers are more dynamic than they appear...his powers are created in his cells like magneto and other mutants...his powers are interdimensional...thats why when the Hulk puts on 1000lbs of muscle from being bruce Banner he doesnt have to eat 1000lbs of protien...the Hulk caneasily survive the pressure of space...magneto cannot unless he is protecting himself with a electromagnetic field, but he would stillhave to make a conscious effort to do so...Hulk has survived in space on many occasions...Infinity Wars, when fighting Trauma, when spiderman with captian universe power punched him into orbit, etc...Hulk can survive off his interdimensional mass for an undetermined period of time, he can eat...but he doesnt have to...and the amount that he eats doesnt reflect the amount of energy he releases
i couldnt agree with you more, wynndar.
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Originally posted by Linkalicious
I'm going to go ahead an argue those capabilities. What we have here is not poor writing that hasn't unleashed "Magneto's True Power"What we have is fanboyism. Yes, i went ahead and said it....Fanboyism.
Magneto doesn't do stuff like uproot whole forests or raise lakes...BECAUSE HE CAN'T DO IT! If he could do it...he would do it.
Quit making up powers for the freaking guy just because you want to win this arguement. This is comic discussion, not magnetic theory.
It's not about IFs, WOULDs, and COULDs....it's what he CAN DO and CAN'T DO. And he can't stop the Hulk.
WEEEEE! A decent retort! Thanks Link.
It is not "fanboyism". It's science, which, believe it or not, Magneto's powers are based on. Let's go with something Magneto HAS done. He has released a global electromagnetic pulse, or EMP. Do you actually realize how much it takes to release an EMP that circles the entire globe? Here, I'll give you a comparison.
Nuclear weapons, when detonated, release an EMP blast along with the explosion. As destructive as the nuclear weapon is, the blast covers about 300 miles. The surface area of the earth is 10^7 x 1.27 miles. Roughly 12,700,000 miles. This makes Magneto 423,333.33 times more powerful than a nuclear blast. Wow. I'd call that power.
You are absolutely correct, if he could do it, he would do it. The problem here is that he is a fictional character, and what he does is based upon the knowledge of the writer.
Magneto wins, argument proven by facts. Hulk can't get close enough to Magneto to do shit.
but the emp of a nuke is only a small side effect...not the primary release of the energy a nuke produces...thats like sayin a nuke produces 10,000 megaton blast...Magneto's emp produces a .05 megaton blast..there for a Nuke is 200,000 times more powerful than magneto...ur logic is a little off..but i do believe magneto is very powerful and the emp is very impressive, i agree...but it is where he draws the limit...Hulk does not strain, does not have finite power...and would not be affected by an emp
Magneto DOES have finite power, but he doesn't need to use all of his power to beat Hulk anyway, so that doesn't make a difference.
I think the fact that the Hulk looks constipated everytime he tries becoming stonger, means that he is straining. He was certainly straining holding up that mountain. Shit, he strains just becoming the Hulk in the first place. Saying "never" is a very broad generalization. But, that could just be me.
Again, Hulk needs to be within arm's reach of Magneto to do any damage. I just don't see Hulk getting that close before he becomes bored from trying, and turns back into Banner(if he EVER turned back into Banner in front of Magneto, he is dead instantly. Magneto doesn't **** around).
EDIT: I used a nuclear weapon because that is the largest EMP blast that humans have. There is NO other device that releases an EMP even close to a nuclear weapon's capability.
maybe im missing something here. im commenting from stuff posted a few pages back but when since can the hulk hold his breath all day, and when since can he lift mjolnir? hasnt N E 1 read future imperrfect, when Maestro said"I'm twice as strong as ive eevr been and i still cant lift it"(or sump,in like that anyway) or in Thor when that general guy donned the destroyer armor and completely trashed the avengers, and killed thor and not even he could lift it?
also i dont believe i was giving magneto powers he didnt have, i was merely arguing from the point of view that since he controls the electromagnetic spectrum and all related enerigies he should be able to do all this and as a person currently taking physics its only right that i argue logically, especially since i know a LITTLE bit of what im talking about.
why? and this is a big why, why? in the name of god does anyone think that magento would square off face to face with the hulk. he would hurl stuff at him from a far, also, who says that magneto would fight fair and with honor any ****ing way? even if he plays extra cheap andtrap him in a force bubble and hurl him into space or drop him off in the nearest volcanoe how the hell would the hulk beat that? and im talking logically here
I want to acquiant you with an idea called "the world". We call it earth. But why doesn't it fly apart? Why do the bits making it up not fly off? Because of one extrodinarily powerful force; strong nuclear force. Release less than one hundreth of it and you get an atom bomb. The hulk became the hulk because he was hit by a strong nuclear reaction. Maybe Magneto has a larger range, but Hulk has much more power to release. Much.
1st off...The Hulk is ALWAYS the hulk. He never turns into banner. his intelligence far exceeds bruce banners original intelligence. lava cant hurt the hulk. he can fly in space simply by claping his hands once creating a projecting force. magneto's intelligence is no where near the HULK's. and if Hulk had a reason to kill magneto...all magneto could do is run and hide...and prolong the inevitable. arguing physics only helps the HULK's argument...and thinking logically only helps the HULK's argument.
The Living Tribunal once considered hulk such a threat that he himself was going to delete the Hulk to ensure th existance of the universe and it's parallell multiverses....it wasnt until bruce banner sacrificed his life to save earth from the hulk that the living tribunal decided to let hulk live. and that was the old , dumb hulk. the newer greener hulk is at a genius level of intelligence, and many time over more powerful that any previous hulk.
I just had a thought; Magneto isn't powerful, he's influential. He can control massive amounts of stuff, but in small areas he doesn't have the oomph to always win. Hulk can smash out of anything, endure anything, and has an intrinsic link to strong nuclear reactions (as shown when he melted a container that could hold a nuclear bomb when angry). Hulk has greater small area power, and eventually, enough power to smash an asteroid twice the earth’s size in one hit.
nomsans: What the hell are you talking about? You do realize that Savage Hulk has below average intelligence right? It's Professor Hulk that is a genius. Maybe you need a little catching up... http://www.hulklibrary.com/hulk/info/hulk-incarnations.asp?Id=devil
Generally speaking, when Hulk is pitted against an opponent, Savage Hulk is who is fighting, unless otherwise stated.
Again, someone prove to me how Hulk would even get close enough to hit Magneto. Magneto doesn't deal with characters like the Hulk, because has so much more to worry about than a big green man with large fists. Hulk's power is strength, that's it. He has unlimited strength. To use it, he has to be hitting/touching something. Magneto can manipulate things by LOOKING at it. Hulk would not get close enough to physically fight Magneto.