I was being sarcastic about Magneto vs. Hulk, since this whole convo went way off topic.
I'd accept Poccy being more powerful if someone presents proof of it. As it stands, he loses to Cyclops and Phoenix regularly, and in his final showing, Jean ripped him apart from the inside out. That's just not something they could do to Magneto.
Originally posted by demigawd
I was being sarcastic about Magneto vs. Hulk, since this whole convo went way off topic.I'd accept Poccy being more powerful if someone presents proof of it. As it stands, he loses to Cyclops and Phoenix regularly, and in his final showing, Jean ripped him apart from the inside out. That's just not something they could do to Magneto.
Believe that could do it also against Magneto, maybe easier. The problem is, that Apocalypse might still be alive. She took his soul from inside. The problem was, beauce Cyclops was resisitng, Apocalypse didn't have total control, that is why, it was Phoenix was able to do that.
everyone keeps saying arguing that hulk is immortal and so he could never lose to mags. I think everyone is confusing immortal with invincible. Immortal = lives forever (unless killed by an outside force)
Invincible = cannot be killed by an outside force, but may still die due to natural causes.
For an example of this, look at the elves in Lord of the Rings, they are immortal but can still be killed in battle because they were not invincible. Apoc too, is immortal not invincible. He's very durable, but when faced with an opponent like Mags, he can be destroyed, or ripped to pieces as old, feable, weak mags did to him in AOA.
Oh yeah, Magneto can still kick the sh*t out of Hulk, too. LOL
Originally posted by leonheartmm
lol, we should make another forum "WHEN WILL THE MAGNETO VS HULK, OR JUGGERNAUT VS HULK FORUMS DIE DOWN"
lol, I don't know where this thread came from again all of a sudden. It was the first thread I posted on, and the beginning of my now famous 20 page wars with Alpha Centuri that shows up on most long threads. After that, the thread pretty much died out until a few days ago. I can't possibly see anybody shedding any new light on this topic - it's been pretty exhaustively argued, and I think the general consensus is that Magneto would win.
Originally posted by turboman1691
Apoc too, is immortal not invincible. He's very durable, but when faced with an opponent like Mags, he can be destroyed, or ripped to pieces as old, feable, weak mags did to him in AOA.
With proper writnig, he can't be destroyed by Mags. People don't even take that seriousl in AOA what happened to Apocalypse.
defeated....not killed.... strong telepaths pose a threat to Apoc..a minor one...he'll have to overcome...and he shall in time...only Nathan Summers can destroy Apoc....temporally anyway.....
Apoc: I am as far beyond mutants as they are beyond you! I am eternal! You can no break that which can not be crushed. You can not destroy my flame..for it is too bright.
Cable: one of us isn't leaving this battle alive. (Apoc smiles)
Apoc: for once insect, I agree with you.
Originally posted by Xplosive
With proper writnig, he can't be destroyed by Mags. People don't even take that seriousl in AOA what happened to Apocalypse.
Well if the writer choses to write it that way, Jubilee could beat Apoc and magneto combined, but that doesn't mean it could really happen. And as far a Apoc and Mags...parts of Apoc are metal, and we all know, mags pretty much has complete control over metal. I would argue that Mags control of metal is undoubtably stonger than Apoc's control over his own molecules. Mags control of metal is at least strong enough to lift Apoc off the ground, and once Apoc was in the air (same as the hulk) he would have no means of attacking Mags other than extending the length of his appendages, which Mags strong enough to keep him from doing. And hell, at full power, Mag's force field would be too powerful for Apoc to penetrate.