I agree with everything you just said except the beginning, middle and the end. Apoc getting beat by one person would be not just bad writting, it would be sinful, ungodly writing...ugh and the evil monkey wouldn't be happy to see Apoc lose.evil_monkey
unless the one person was....cable he's destined to do it you know.ugh
Originally posted by turboman1691
And as far a Apoc and Mags...parts of Apoc are metal, and we all know, mags pretty much has complete control over metal. I would argue that Mags control of metal is undoubtably stonger than Apoc's control over his own molecules.
And hell, at full power, Mag's force field would be too powerful for Apoc to penetrate.
Impossible, Magneto can't control strongly than Apcoalypse own molecuel, far from that.
Apocalypse could penetrate Magneto full powered shield with greatest ease. You are forgeting that Apocalypse can grow to enormus size, literally that Magneto would look like antz, I strongly doubt Magneto could lift him, Magento could lift such weight alone, but only if Apocalypse would allow it, if not (if Apocaylpse would stand and use his strenght, and if Magneto trying to lift him, he would only made out of himslef look like joke and even if Apocalypse would be at normal size and uses his strengh, Magento wouldn't be able to do it) Magneto wouldn't be able to loift him in no conditon.
Uh huh, that's why Apocalypse got owned by Jean, right? Because his control over his own molecules was so great that Jean ripped him in half, revealing him to be a little old man, right? LOL.
If JEAN could tear him in two, just imagine what MAGNETO could do!
Oh...wait...he'd do what he did to Apocalypse in AOA!
Seems Apocalypse has a bad habit of being torn in two. 🙁
Originally posted by Xplosive
and even if Apocalypse would be at normal size and uses his strengh, Magento wouldn't be able to do it) Magneto wouldn't be able to loift him in no conditon.
Even in the cartoons, when Mags was weaker (much weaker) than he currently is in the comic books, when they were in the place that controlled time, magneto blasted Apoc out into oblivion...the only reason he was able to come back was because one of his horsemen flew out and caught him and brought him back. Comic Mags could lift Apoc with relative ease. and as for growing to unbeliveable portions, mags would simply compress him and prevent him from doing it.
Originally posted by turboman1691
Even in the cartoons, when Mags was weaker (much weaker) than he currently is in the comic books, when they were in the place that controlled time, magneto blasted Apoc out into oblivion...
lol, ynd Magneto energy blast lasteed 2 seconds agaisnt Apoclaypse. Everyone know that Apocalypse wasn't hurt not even 0.1% when Magneto thrwed him. Important is that Magneto energy blast lasted 2 seconds against Apocalypse energy blast (that says Magneto is nothing). And 10 seconds before, when Apocalypse first time was thrown and then when he got up, he was talking to Magneto and Mystique, at mean time Magneto and Mystiqe were blasting at him, Apocalypse was normal size, and they couldn't move him for 1mm. Magneto couldn't only move Apocalypse (Magneto only move Apocalypse, when Apocalpyse didn't expcet Magento blast).
Yes and Apocaylpse can't fly of course, he wouldn't be able to come back (lol). And Apocalypse is immesaruably more powerful than Magneto than in both cartoons and cartoon Apocalypse is also more much more powerful than comic Apocalypse.
I'm still convince AoA Apoc was weaker than regular Apoc...cuz in the Handbook Apoc has to heal from wounds...regular Apoc was basically indestructable...for the most part. the reason AoA Mags beat AoA Apoc...Apoc didn't have the A on his belt.. without it he's not as powerful...that's why the 12 beat him no A on the belt.
Originally posted by Mainstream
I'm still convince AoA Apoc was weaker than regular Apoc...cuz in the Handbook Apoc has to heal from wounds...regular Apoc was basically indestructable...for the most part. the reason AoA Mags beat AoA Apoc...Apoc didn't have the A on his belt.. without it he's not as powerful...that's why the 12 beat him no A on the belt.
Apoccwas weaker in AoA, and it was also bad writing in the end.
Apoc of AoA was weak..hell with prep time I could take him...now regular Apoc now that's a villain.
Apoc: tell me magneto..do you believe in God?
Magneto: yes.
Apoc: good...because I am about to send you to his kingdom in the sky.
AoA Magneto: but..but ..but I killed you!
AoA Magneto: what part of immortal don't you understand? Like Jesus Christ my resurrection was assured..just as your destruction is!
haha...now people have graduated to the old "bad writing" excuse to ignore things they don't like. ALL Apocs were killed easily. AOA Apoc was torn apart by Magneto. MU Apoc was torn apart by Jean (and even WORSE showing). Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix Apoc was killed by a Cyke and Jean in less powerful bodies along with an adolescent Cable. The End Apocalypse was killed by a dude with a gun shooting bullets with a virus! Sensing a pattern here? Or is this ALL bad writing? LOL.
Originally posted by demigawd
haha...now people have graduated to the old "bad writing" excuse to ignore things they don't like. ALL Apocs were killed easily. AOA Apoc was torn apart by Magneto. MU Apoc was torn apart by Jean (and even WORSE showing). Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix Apoc was killed by a Cyke and Jean in less powerful bodies along with an adolescent Cable. The End Apocalypse was killed by a dude with a gun shooting bullets with a virus! Sensing a pattern here? Or is this ALL bad writing? LOL.
lol..... thats a time honored tradition among fanboys man, thats right up there with good guys always win and bad guys always lose, and in the REAL WORLD nobody should be able to hit spiderman so him being hit in COMICS is unrealistic..that one never gets hold
what about when everyone asked how Hulk would ever get ahold of Mags and everyone said, "he just would, he's the hulk." Yeah, great argument, I'm convinced. And as far as Apoc, Mainstream keeps trying to use the destiny thing...saying that Mags can't beat him because Cable is destine to do so. If you use that argument then you would have to conceed that noone, not even god himself could defeat Apoc because they are not destine to do so, and I'm sure we all agree that that is a rediculous conclusion to draw. The fact that cable is destined to kill apoc only means that he is the one who did it first, not that he is the only one who could have done it. That is like saying that since booth was destined to kill Lincoln, that it would have been impossible for anyone else to do it, when that is clearly not the case. Destiny is not a valid argument, so let's please stop using it.