Storm vs Thor

Started by Swanky-Tuna38 pages

Originally posted by Rutog98
That Roguestorm thing was taken completely out of context.

The reason that comment was made in 147 is because she holds herself back especially when working in a planatary atmosphere. When she went "punk", she let go of some her "blocks" and things that were difficult for her when she was "gentle" became much easier owing to her lack of restraint.

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This is why when she was Rougestorm, she had such a difficult time stopping that storm she created. Colossus has brought her back to her moral core and she was working within those boundaries when she was trying to disperse that storm that she created as Rougestomr. She would not allow herself to ride roughshod over it. She forced herself to gently disperse it. She does this for the sake of the ecosystem. (However, sometimes she just speaks directly to the storm and commands it to disperse and it does instantly. lol)

Thor, on the other hand, does not have to be so cautious as his hammer does all the work and he does not. All he has to do is tap his hammer the prerequisite time or just will the hammer to do it and that little dohickey does it all.

Now, I did not say this, but there are stories where Ororo alters weather on a HUGE scale. For instance, even before she joined the X-Men, she dispersed a hemisphere-sized hurricane in "X-Men: The Hidden Years issue 7." She has altered weather on a continental scale more than once and globally as well.

Storm is reluctant to impose her will on natural hurricanes since that is the natural order of things. She could disperse them, of course, but it could trigger an equally devistating disaster.


Maybe I've forgotten something from the scans but the entire crisis seemed to be simply dispersing the storm into the upper atmosphere. Getting the energy from point A to point B. Apparently Thor's ability to do so is stronger than hers. Not only that, but I've never heard of Thor's weather manipulation causing any kind of ecological damage. That leads me to believe that either the hammer indeed does take care of everything more handily than Storm does or when Thor creates a weather effect it's partially or completely artificial and has no lasting effect on the ecosystem. If there's another probable option I'm open to hear it.

But clearly she is more intricate with it. I don't know how he will be portrayed now, but Thor seems to have a sledge hammer methodology with everything, and that's what all his weather feats seem to be.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Wrong. She said that she "must" not ride roughshod over them. She never said that she "cannot" ride roughshod over them. Storm's humanity was back right here. She was not operating as Roguestorm (who DID ride roughshod over the elements), but as Storm who is careful. Thor's dohickey does the work, not him. So he just taps the hammer or does whatever he does with it and doesn't have to worry about anything. Storm can do things just as easily, but she can damage the ecosystem if she is not careful. If you don't believe me, read the arc where the team first battles Juggernaut. She summons the worst atlantic storm in living memory and banishes it with a shout. "Wind and water, earth and sea, begone!" or something like that and banishes it outright.

Usually, she goes through it more carefully to make sure there is no damage done from her manipulations. Its a self-imposed limitation, not one owing to a lack of power.

Very comprehensive.

You utilize critical thinking and pure common sense.

You must be over 12 years old, right??

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Very comprehensive.

You utilize critical thinking and pure common sense.

You must be over 12 years old, right??


Wow, did it get passive aggressive in here or is it just me?

Haven't you given your only supporter enough backhanded gold stars by now?

And I do believe a youing Storm disperses a hemisphere-size Storm in hidden years:

Originally posted by 2damnloud
[b]Easily dispersing a Hemisphere-sized storm

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Don't forget wrong, seeing as it isn't Mjolnir that does the work.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
And I do believe a youing Storm disperses a hemisphere-size Storm in hidden years:

I believe you mean, 'almost' hemisphere sized.

Originally posted by Soljer
False. He has taken control and nullified her weather effects in the past. She has not done similarly to him.

Your argument is based off assumption. The reasonable posters on this board base their arguments off of logic.

Where did you read that? 😕

Storm is perfetly capable of creating weather anywhere there are elements.

There's a difference between creating weather and creating elements.

Thor may or not be able to create elements themselves with his hammer.

I don't really think the hammer is true show of "power", only merit based on Asgardian for anyone who is "worthy" can wield the hammer, correct??

I'm not really seeing anyhting too great other than a hear-say about creating rain in space(magic), and some super-potent lightning.

Storm outclasses him beacause she is intrisicly connected to life itself.

This is much too abstract for some to understand. I mean, look at some of these ignorant arguments.😂

Where are the adult comics fans!?!?!?!?!(not just biology alone)

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Where are the adult comics fans!?!?!?!?!(not just biology alone)

When you get there you'll be able to spot them.

something decently cool?😕

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thor/thorcontainsnuclearfallout.jpg

add that temporal storm feat to this one and.....😬

Thor's just NOT seeing her.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Where are the adult comics

Well if you really want to know . . .

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Well if you really want to know . . .

I bet you do know..... 😂

😘

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I bet you do know..... 😂

😘

😕 I do. Hence my ability to give you said advice.

If we're going back to our veiled digs 2damnloud, we'll also go back to our veiled reporting the hell out of you for bashing members and trolling.

This of course will be an exception, as it should be obvious that you've been reported for member bashing and trolling.

The only thing veiled in any of this is my love of show tunes.

Originally posted by Creshosk
If we're going back to our veiled digs 2damnloud, we'll also go back to our veiled reporting the hell out of you for bashing members and trolling.

This of course will be an exception, as it should be obvious that you've been reported for member bashing and trolling.

Doesn't matter.

Everyone elese does it.

Rutog and I are very respectful in our intila presentaitions and we are bashed(regardless to the reason) proabably because people are not mature enought to carry ons everal pages of point-counter point without descending into insults and personal digs hence my sarcasm of not ebing "adult posters"

If everyone can do it, I will do it better.

It's the culture of the boards for which you have taken part in as well.

I don't take kindly to hypocrits and "cliquism".😬

Do what you must, I'll just go to the administrator with a detailed letter along with links to post.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Doesn't matter.

Everyone elese does it.

Rutog and I are very respectful in our intila presentaitions and we are bashed(regardless to the reason) proabably because people are not mature enought to carry ons everal pages of point-counter point without descending into insults and personal digs hence my sarcasm of not ebing "adult posters"

If everyone can do it, I will do it better.

It's the culture of the boards for which you have taken part in as well.

I don't take kindly to hypocrits and "cliquism".😬

Do what you must, I'll just go to the administrator with a detailed letter along with links to post.


Aren't you just as bad by not only stooping to the level of the bashers but bashing everyone who disagrees with your standpoint?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Doesn't matter.

Everyone elese does it.

Rutog and I are very respectful in our intila presentaitions and we are bashed(regardless to the reason) proabably because people are not mature enought to carry ons everal pages of point-counter point without descending into insults and personal digs hence my sarcasm of not ebing "adult posters"

If everyone can do it, I will do it better.

It's the culture of the boards for which you have taken part in as well.

I don't take kindly to hypocrits and "cliquism".😬

Do what you must, I'll just go to the administrator with a detailed letter along with links to post.

Tu quoque
This is the famous "you too" fallacy. It occurs if you argue that an action is acceptable because your opponent has performed it. For instance:

"You're just being randomly abusive."

"So? You've been abusive too."

This is a personal attack, and is therefore a special case of Argumentum ad Hominem.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Doesn't matter.

Everyone elese does it.

Rutog and I are very respectful in our intila presentaitions and we are bashed(regardless to the reason) proabably because people are not mature enought to carry ons everal pages of point-counter point without descending into insults and personal digs hence my sarcasm of not ebing "adult posters"

If everyone can do it, I will do it better.

It's the culture of the boards for which you have taken part in as well.

I don't take kindly to hypocrits and "cliquism".😬

Do what you must, I'll just go to the administrator with a detailed letter along with links to post.

And you're a dumb-dumb head.

EDIT: Chresh and Swanky seem to have beaten me to it