dumbledore is not dead

I have a ton of proof suggesting Dumbledore faked his death. i want to know if i am wrong and the other proof other people have about this situation.

Dumbledore is NOT dead.
the Avada does not send you flying back into the air.
snape was saying avada kedavra and didnt mean it. REMEMBER WHAT MOODY SAYS, AND BELLATRIX, YOU NEED TO MEAN THEM. but he was nonverbally saying something else, thats why dumbledore flew back.
Thats why nonverbal spells were mentioned so much in this book.
Snape looked angry because he didnt want to hurt dumbledore when he sent him flying back.,
Hagrid heard them arguing that snape didnt want to do somthing but Dumby said he had to.
about the unbreakable vow, who said there wasnt a time limit.
he did everything he could to "help" draco but he wouldnt let snape help him.
he obviously lied to narcissa and bellatrix after he looked into her mind since it was all she could think about and pretended voldy told him about the plan.

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The pact made by the "unbreakable vow" seemed to take effect, otherwise there would possibly be a different reaction when Narcissa and Snape were holding hands. If Snape didn't kill Dumbledore, he would probably be dead instead (due to the vow) and even if he wasn't, where would Dumbledore be? (not a Horticrux) Snape was nervous/angry at being stuck in the predicament when confronted with the trapped headmaster. Does the portraits in the headmaster's office react accurately to their death? [or do they appear manually from a person's spell casting?]

i think the portraits can be made manually.
dumbledore is on chocolate frog cards, why not on a picture in his office.
i also think dumbledore is a pheonix animagus so when the tomb erupted in flames.. he teleported because pheonix's can do that if you remember in order of the phoenix.
or he put a flames freezing charm so he wouldnt feel the flames and transifigured himself into the tomb.
also if you notice, madam pomfrey was particularly intrigued by the phoenix song because she knew it had healing powers.
could the pheonix be healing an unconsious dumbledore from the drop down from the tower?
it also never mentions dumbledores wand which means he could have gained it at any time.
we also never actually see dumbledores body after hagrid takes it. and dumbledore says he would trust his life with hagrid...

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I like the evidence you've collected there - but maybe I just dont want to lose the character in the story yet...I still fine it hard to believe that he 'died' though...

yes i found it strange why he immobilized harry.. probably because he didnt want him to interfere with the plan or scream or make a noise or whatnot. he was already invisible so i think he immboilized him so the plan could be fulfilled without harry getting himself killed. dumbledore did not tell harry about the plan because he didnt want voldemort to capture harry and legilmens him and find out he is alive.

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Rowling says Dumledore is dead = Dumbledore is REALLY dead.

ok, DUMBLEDORE IS DEAD, we all read it ourselves. ONLY Harry has ever survived the killing curse. IF Dumbleodore knew how to survive against it, don't you think he would have told the Wizarding world?

he wanted voldemort to come out in the open so he planned a fake death. then when he comes out, dumbledore will be able to help harry finish him and the horcruxes. this way, they will be able to destroy voldemorts body horcrux easily and be able to find him before he makes more horcruxes. rowling always tricks us, she wants us to think he is dead to make a big finale in the last novel... why did rowling mention the argument with snape and dumbledore? why was it mentioned at all, if the death wasnt planned, why mention the argument? there would be no point to the argument being in the story period.

Originally posted by dumbyaintdead
I have a ton of proof suggesting Dumbledore faked his death. i want to know if i am wrong and the other proof other people have about this situation.

Dumbledore is NOT dead.
the Avada does not send you flying back into the air.
snape was saying avada kedavra and didnt mean it. REMEMBER WHAT MOODY SAYS, AND BELLATRIX, YOU NEED TO MEAN THEM. but he was nonverbally saying something else, thats why dumbledore flew back.
Thats why nonverbal spells were mentioned so much in this book.
Snape looked angry because he didnt want to hurt dumbledore when he sent him flying back.,
Hagrid heard them arguing that snape didnt want to do somthing but Dumby said he had to.
about the unbreakable vow, who said there wasnt a time limit.
he did everything he could to "help" draco but he wouldnt let snape help him.
he obviously lied to narcissa and bellatrix after he looked into her mind since it was all she could think about and pretended voldy told him about the plan.

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Maybe just maybe he is alive !

ok, IF dumbledore was planning a fake death WHY would he do this, when Harry needs him the most. HE wouldn't have let the students be attacked, just to save Malfoy and Snape. HE IS DEAD...we just have to face it...

Originally posted by Saratn
ok, IF dumbledore was planning a fake death WHY would he do this, when Harry needs him the most. HE wouldn't have let the students be attacked, just to save Malfoy and Snape. HE IS DEAD...we just have to face it...

I must agree. You just have to...believe it . It was hard for me to believe it , but i did .

but i did come up with a long...tiresome...gruesome theory, ask Hermione202 if you don't believe me.

Hmm...why don't you post that long,tiresome and gruesome theory? Its sounds interesting . lol

Originally posted by dumbyaintdead
1) i also think dumbledore is a pheonix animagus so when the tomb erupted in flames.. he teleported because pheonix's can do that if you remember in order of the phoenix.

2) or he put a flames freezing charm so he wouldnt feel the flames and transifigured himself into the tomb.

1) You can not apparate/ teleport onto hogwarts grounds

2) do you realize how stupid that sounds?

true you cant teleport on school grounds but what if dumbledore droped the charms like bifore in one of the other books... i know what you mean though

he may be a powerful wizard yes...but WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD HE TAKE DOWN THAT SPELL? IF HE DID FOR THE SLIGHTEST AMOUNT OF TIME, DE'S COULD'VE BEEN UPON THEM

also if dumbledor planded a fake death he could go and get the last horcuxes and voldi wouldent even know he was still alive, giveing dumbldore advantage of surprise...

why would he fake his death, and let Hogwarts be attacked?

Please... stop making so many threads of this. Also, he is dead. End of story.

well you see if he facked his death he could cetch the dark lord off gard if every one thinks he is dead then it would give him a major advantage...