Originally posted by Disappear
theoretically, if storm truly has a gaia-esque link to the earth (something i've never heard before, but rather that she can sense meteorological phenomena, most often on earth due to familiarity) she'd be a better theoretical tracker than wolverine. but it's not been put into use, and wolverine is known as the best tracker the x-men have. and i don't think storm would be able to contest that in any modern context.
she has a strong pure link to the earth. her link was one of the reasons the brood couldn't be with her. the link was too strong for it. also, the reason storm did the whole mowhawk thing was because she had been away from earth for so long and had to find herelf, and do some soul searching. the reason wolverine is the best tracker is due to the fact that he is so popular. the writers can't have wolverine not do everything 🙁 .
stormfront you make it sound as if Storm is omniscient. She isn't.
i state what she can do, if you have an issue, bring it up with the writers, not me. you can talk to them at comixfan forums. and i thought meggan was a faerie? i had asked the editor at marvel, and he said she was.
storm might have all the skills to be a good tracker, i won't argue that she doesn't, but she neither possesses the ability to distinguish one human/mutant male or female's electromagnetic "aura" from another, if she can sense them at all, or distinguish one person from another due to how the wind moves about them at a distance. so, unless she's tracking objects from the moment they begin to depart, or sensing such "elementally apparent" mutants as sienna blaze or magneto, whose activities could be sensed through the EM spectrum, i doubt she'd be nearly as useful as wolverine. if not in ability, then surely in practice and reliability.
and meggan's whole "faerie" origin comes from they travelled to another world while meggan was just beginning to understand her powers. she adopted the traits of the faeries due to her empathetic link, and despite being very different from the faeries themselves, she naturally meshed with their appearance and their heart-led lifestyle. it was said that "it seemed like the faeries were welcoming home one of their own," or something to that accord. it was just conjecture based around the situation, not fact or really anything that can be substantiated. i mean, she morphed into a female version of nightcrawler and reflected his desires from time to time, doesn't mean she's a demonic mutant descended from biblical times... it's just an issue being taken drastically out of context.
Originally posted by Disappear
storm might have all the skills to be a good tracker, i won't argue that she doesn't, but she neither possesses the ability to distinguish one human/mutant male or female's electromagnetic "aura" from another, if she can sense them at all, or distinguish one person from another due to how the wind moves about them at a distance. so, unless she's tracking objects from the moment they begin to depart, or sensing such "elementally apparent" mutants as sienna blaze or magneto, whose activities could be sensed through the EM spectrum, i doubt she'd be nearly as useful as wolverine. if not in ability, then surely in practice and reliability.and meggan's whole "faerie" origin comes from they travelled to another world while meggan was just beginning to understand her powers. she adopted the traits of the faeries due to her empathetic link, and despite being very different from the faeries themselves, she naturally meshed with their appearance and their heart-led lifestyle. it was said that "it seemed like the faeries were welcoming home one of their own," or something to that accord. it was just conjecture based around the situation, not fact or really anything that can be substantiated. i mean, she morphed into a female version of nightcrawler and reflected his desires from time to time, doesn't mean she's a demonic mutant descended from biblical times... it's just an issue being taken drastically out of context.
actually, storm has seen a persons aurora before. i don't have the issue number at hand, but i can get it, it will juist take me a while cause i have to look for it. and tom brevvenont(something like that) said meggan was a faerie. i think it was tom, but i have to check.
you think storm could wander toward new york city, definitively sensing one person's energy above all the millions of others, when all humans create a bio-electrical field nearly identical to one another? i bet she could single-handedly fly to the moon, too, then.
also, it's heavily arguable whether or not storm's "bond" to the earth would exist in the here and now. she was first believed to be a weather goddess, then a mutant whose powers let her control earthly weather phenomena. but she's controlled solar winds, and she's spent unknown lengths of time in non-earth dimensions such as the adversary's and the hill. she might have a pseudo-empathic ability to bond with whatever hunk of rock she's living on at the moment, but she's no humus sapien. let's keep things in perspective.
and apocalypse IS naturally super-strong. he has been since he was a wee tyke back in egypt. he can simply grow stronger by metabolizing certain energies, and/or by increasing his mass, size and strength geometrically.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
He's a shapeshifter with the ability to increase his strength via shapeshifting. I don't consider that a physical strength mutation.
Yes it is, he increases his strghnt throgh outiside enegries. So if that is his ability, than it is physical strength mutation among other things to.
his natural form has augmented levels of strength, the heights of which have never been examined. he's always been shown to have nearly-unmatched strength, and the 'drawing on outside energies' bit hasn't entirely been explained or defined. so, as far as we know, apocalypse is just incredibly strong to begin with. if he gets stronger using his powers, then he gets stronger using his powers. seems like no less of a DQ than saying colossus gets stronger turning to metal.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotthis always makes me happy.
I read the Rise of Apocalypse mini, at base level before he gained the technology he wasn't all that strong. Happy now? 😄
Apocalypse was one of the most physically powerful beings on Earth. Thanks to the Celestial technology's modifications to his body, he could alter the molecular structure of his body at will in order to change his form. Using this he could alter his appearance or the size of his body; transform his arms and fists into various melee weapons and grant himself superhuman strength (he could lift in excess of 100 tons). The plasticity of his form tranlated into superhuman agility and virtually instantaneous reflexes. He also could generate energy, thanks to a combination of his mutant power and the Celestial technology in his body. He could use this energy to levitate himself and others, create force fields, and project bursts of concussive force, and could augment himself further by drawing on various outside energy sources.
Apocalypse demonstrated the ability to teleport himself and other beings, although this ability may have been generated by outside technology rather than by Apocalypse himself.
Finally, he was unaging. Even before being modified by the Celestial ship, he lived for thousands of years and was highly resistant to injury. With the Celestial modifications, this resistance to harm was amplified, although it is still possible, albeit highly difficult, to cause him injury that would not be immediately regenerated by his power. Should he suffer massive injuries that prove potentially fatal, he can enter a coma-like state of suspended animation during which he may recover from his wounds with the assistance of his Celestial technology.
In the future timeline from which Cable hails, Apocalypse's physical form had grown too aged and enfeebled to contain his vast superhuman energies. Hence, he transferred his consciousness and powers into a succession of host bodies, abandoning each one when it too grew too old to contain his power. This alternate future version of Apocalypse was ultimately defeated in transit from a depreciated body into a potential host body. Shortly before he transferred himself into Cyclops, he revealed that he was in a host body in the present day - it is not entirely clear when this happened, but the most likely time is when he appeared to die on the moon.
Aside from his superhuman powers, Apocalypse was also an extraordinary genius with knowledge of science and technology centuries ahead of conventional science. This was not merely a result of his exposure to alien technology, as he was able to make significant new advances beyond the alien materials he was exposed to.
Originally posted by MainstreamRefer to my prior comment about how it isn't naturally derived so imo disqualified. He's like an athlete on EPO.
Thanks to the Celestial technology's modifications to his body, he could alter the molecular structure of his body at will in order to change his form. Using this he could alter his appearance or the size of his body; transform his arms and fists into various melee weapons and grant himself superhuman strength (he could lift in excess of 100 tons).
Originally posted by MainstreamThousands of years...? He's about 20ish when he gains the tech in the miniseries. And if I recall correctly he hibernates periodically. He isn't an External so he isn't truly an immortal.
Finally, he was unaging. Even before being modified by the Celestial ship, he lived for thousands of years and was highly resistant to injury.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Refer to my prior comment about how it isn't naturally derived so imo disqualified. He's like an athlete on EPO.
Thousands of years...? He's about 20ish when he gains the tech in the miniseries. And if I recall correctly he hibernates periodically. He isn't an External so he isn't truly an immortal.
okay "virtually immortal"