Can the Silver Surfer beat Superman?

Started by jrodslam25 pages
Originally posted by Hit and Run
He IS fighting the guy in that scan... unless you mean actually throwing super-fast punches or something, which I doubt Norrin has ever done.

Id hardly consider flying in a circle and shooting a blast in the middle, fighting at high speeds.

i'm not sure about the outlasting bit, but maybe Superman can outspeed him in the REFLEX department espicially when the writers don't use it for SS nayway as he has the power cosmic so i guess they fougth he didn't really need it or there was not point in SS using it.

Originally posted by Hit and Run
We all know Supes is fast, but are the opponents he fights in those pics necessarily moving at super-speed?

Fair question. What we do know is that Superman is moving at superspeed. We have nothing showing likewise from Silver Surfer in combat.

An even better example is his fight vs. Wonder Woman, who we do know moves and fights at super-speed.

He was a blur even to her.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Id hardly consider flying in a circle and shooting a blast in the middle, fighting at high speeds.

Why not? It's in the middle of a battle. He's blasting someone who's trying to attack him. Unless you're only counting punches and kicks, I'd say that's a fight.

He could use this method against Superman. He doesn't have to get in close to do damage.

Thats what I keep saying......................SS can whoop SM so badly just from his ability to control molocules and matter...............I mean he can emit K-nite radiation and change all matter around them into K-nite and that means goodnight for SM.

Originally posted by soleran30
Thats what I keep saying......................SS can whoop SM so badly just from his ability to control molocules and matter...............I mean he can emit K-nite radiation and change all matter around them into K-nite and that means goodnight for SM.
You're aware that Superman has taken Nukes while standing in Kryptonite before?
Or that he actually wore the Kryptonite ring in combat before?

It's mostly a fable, like the red sun, which he's been INSIDE of before.

while he has a force field and goes or phasing out, but i think i've or just reinforced the fact that ordinarily Silver Surfer beats Superman a garanteed 8, 9 at best times out of 10 i think everyone here was jut arguing wether or not Silver surfer can fight at Superman's speed and beat him that way...................

Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
i'm not sure about the outlasting bit, but maybe Superman can outspeed him in the REFLEX department espicially when the writers don't use it for SS nayway as he has the power cosmic so i guess they fougth he didn't really need it or there was not point in SS using it.
espiically as Silver surfer does not need to use the whole speedblitz thing anyway though Supes does as thats his character sect espiially as he has no concusive force/great advantage like the power cosmic

Originally posted by Hit and Run
Why not? It's in the middle of a battle. He's blasting someone who's trying to attack him. Unless you're only counting punches and kicks, I'd say that's a fight.

He could use this method against Superman. He doesn't have to get in close to do damage.

Yeeaaah, but it still a little iffy. It's the equivalent of flying at warpspeed, except he has his hand out blasting. I figured he'd be able to do that.

Combat speed has different implications. And we haven't see much to go on, despite hundreds of fights.

Originally posted by Hit and Run
Why not? It's in the middle of a battle. He's blasting someone who's trying to attack him. Unless you're only counting punches and kicks, I'd say that's a fight.

He could use this method against Superman. He doesn't have to get in close to do damage.

This method has tried and failed against weaker opponents ... If he can put down Thor, then he has no chance against Supes .... If you read the recent Sentry mini one will see how the fight between Sentry and Terr ax went. The Surfer Superman fight would be a similar performance ! 🙂

Originally posted by Juntai
You're aware that Superman has taken Nukes while standing in Kryptonite before?
Or that he actually wore the Kryptonite ring in combat before?

It's mostly a fable, like the red sun, which he's been INSIDE of before.

during SS run he has flown trough quite an amount of suns and even absorbed one

Originally posted by demigawd
Yeeaaah, but it still a little iffy. It's the equivalent of flying at warpspeed, except he has his hand out blasting. I figured he'd be able to do that.

Combat speed has different implications. And we haven't see much to go on, despite hundreds of fights.

Maybe SS is just shitty at H2H combat so he keeps his distance. 😉
Why learn to fight when you can turn your opponents into poo???

Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
while he has a force field and goes or phasing out, but i think i've or just reinforced the fact that ordinarily Silver Surfer beats Superman a garanteed 8, 9 at best times out of 10 i think everyone here was jut arguing wether or not Silver surfer can fight at Superman's speed and beat him that way................... espiically as Silver surfer does not need to use the whole speedblitz thing anyway though Supes does as thats his character sect espiially as he has no concusive force/great advantage like the power cosmic
Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
while he has a force field and goes or phasing out, but i think i've or just reinforced the fact that ordinarily Silver Surfer beats Superman a garanteed 8, 9 at best times out of 10 i think everyone here was jut arguing wether or not Silver surfer can fight at Superman's speed and beat him that way................... espiically as Silver surfer does not need to use the whole speedblitz thing anyway though Supes does as thats his character sect espiially as he has no concusive force/great advantage like the power cosmic

Which, like i said before, is fine. I just didn't like the blanket statement that Surfer is faster and more durable, when the evidence doesn't support that statement.

yeah i agree with the whole reflex thing when he comes down to it form top to bottom but not whole heartidly infact not at all about supes being superior in durabilty i place them around the same.

Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
during SS run he has flown trough quite an amount of suns and even absorbed one
What does that have to do with Superman's weaknesses being mostly inneffectual against him?

surfer is much more durable.....

Originally posted by demigawd
Which, like i said before, is fine. I just didn't like the blanket statement that Surfer is faster and more durable, when the evidence doesn't support that statement.

Agreed !!!!!!!! Totally Dude .... Surfer beats him 8/10 .... Supes is nearly as fast, at least if not more durable, and is far stronger ! 🙂

Keep the faith

Im not whirly punk

nothing just informing SS can move through planets to show his durabilty i qouted on your post accidently

Originally posted by TheKahn
Maybe SS is just shitty at H2H combat so he keeps his distance. 😉
Why learn to fight when you can turn your opponents into poo???

Granted. But then don't bich when someone gets up close to you and pummels you into unconsciousness (Thor, Thanos).

Originally posted by Juntai
What does that have to do with Superman's weaknesses being mostly inneffectual against him?

hang so you are telling me that if SS was to changed all of THE WATER in Superman's body into krptonite liquid Superman will walk on by like nothing happened.