Originally posted by Deus Ex
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It is contradicting....in Batman/Superman he is not able to keep up with Kara, although not nearly flying at the Speed of Light, In the Blackhole he hardly gets the Speed of light, in the Links you provided he easily goes 8 times Light Speed......but the last one is just crazy cause there's no one who reasonably can argue that Wonder Woman goes 8 times the Speed of Light.So like Twisted and every other DBZ supporter, you're throwing out evidence of Superman's speed... on the grounds that it's "just crazy" and "no one ... can argue that Wonder Woman goes 8 times the speed of light."?
Uh, didn't you just say that Buu ripped a hole in space and time? You want to talk about crazy, unbelieveable shit, look to DBZ. And in any case, this is evidence. Proof. He -can- go that fast, and you saying "omfg pis" or saying "omfg zo crazy" doesn't change it. He can do it. Accept it. Move on.
No I am not, you saying that I do doesn't make it reality..where did I post anything from hearsay?
Cresh can deal with this one. I'm not about to search through your posts.
I do not have a scanner, I thought we all read the 42 Books of Dragonball though, that'S not much to memorize, and everything I said was something that happejned in that 42 Books....
Nice. You assumed we all read these books and yet you haven't touched a Superman comic since Doomsday? Dude, Doomsday killed Superman back before I could even drive. It's been -more- than four years. More like nine or ten.
So Superman never lived through a Genkidama...he nevver did....so that means he cannot?...yeah right 🙄
Are you refuting your own point here? The Genkidama needs to be standardized in terms of power and effect before we can assume or discredit the idea of Superman withstanding it. That lies on the side of DBZ supporters. The ones championing Goku should show... wait a damn minute. Why do we even care about this now?
I am not excusing anything to you.
Not proving anything either. [/B]
I did not say it was crazy (the wonder woman part yes...I mean she never did that before) but I said that there are many other occurences where he couldn't do that. I acknowledged that it happened in some comic which I wasn't previously aware of but it is nothing that he usually does....not in the Big DC events at least...
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This is not what I said...I said the last Comic I read was when Superman became normal again after a year or so of being Energy Supes. And I read Batman/Superman, JLA and some bigger events which he occured in..I jsut didn't read his comics anymore. And of course I figured you people at least read The Buu Stories, I mean there'S no point in argueing if you didn't.
We cannot actually say what a Genkidama can do.....it was jsut never stated ...and we care because that was the only power we ever saw destroying Buu.
Just pointing out what is stated in the Books, as you are pointing out what is said in the Comics. That is actually the only thing we can base anything on anyways....
Originally posted by Creshosk
Not in the slightest. I've seen no evidence.You beleive those cxharacters to be slow?
But you doing as such does make it so. I'm not just saying you are, I'm pointing out when you do.
And it's insufficent. Which is why I was asking for you to show evidence that supports your claim of Buu beating Superman..
And just how powerful is the Genkidama? Oh, that's right we have no basis for comparison since its a DBZ only thing. It also requires outside help of volunteered energy and is slow to build up. . . And requires the query to either be stupid and just sit there, or distracted. . .
Yes you are.
"I have no scanner" "there's 42 books to look through" etc. etc.
I never once said anything aboot Goku being God or DBZ rocking anything.....and you have seen evidence as much as it is possible...since there is only that much evidence in 5 Mangas.
Not Slow, I did not say that...but 8 Times Speed of light? Faster than Wally? ....jsut not true....Wally had to give them some of his speed so that they could escape in one of the JLA comics. And Wally is only Speed of light (maybe a little faster)
This is a lie, you did not point out anything, I did not post anything from hearsay, I posted only stuff I actually read in a comic....
What are you saying? Your Knowledge of the Books is insufficent, the Books themself are Insufficent? There are maybe 7 Books that have something to od with a Buu of some sort or another....that is pretty much nothing....and I can only base his power on what I read in that....I can't make up more evidence so you fell happy or anything.
Indeed it'S only DBZ but it has to be considered....and you miss the point it's not aboot the Genkidama being able to Defeat Superman but aboot hiom much power is needed to defeat Buu
Ha, ok, if that'S excusing for you I guess you are right, I am excusing...but it is actually the truth...I do not jhave as canner and I don*'t think it should be necessary to post scans of a 1000 pages of a manga everyone that posts in here should know it. And there is only that much evidence as there is in the Books, I gave some I could think aboot, maybe there'S a little more but the fact is it all depends as on what you base powers of DB on.