Originally posted by Wonderer_temp
Yes, killing other people because they kill, is a bit contradictory and also not setting a very good example.
Exactly.
Originally posted by Aziz!
I'm for it. Some people can't be helped and shouldn't live.
And you KNOW this because…?
Originally posted by Aziz!
But if they get life in prison I'm ok.
So, you’re for it, against it… ??
I'm against it. 100%
People commit murders for different reasons (pleasure, robbery, revenge) and often murder is actually self defense.
You can't treat every murder the same. It's never justified, but to MURDER a person for MURDER doesn't make sense.
People who commit rape or any kind of torture on another person, I beleive are sociapaths....this is infinately debatable, and i will not go there.......cuz im not even sure on this myself.
This is how i look at it: Executioners are people who make a living off of killing people. They make money by murdering. They are no better than the murderers who were sentenced.
The only difference between MURDER and EXECUTION is that ONE is legal and the other is illegal.
I am on the fence with this issue. On one hand, some people just don't deserve to live. On the other, many people are in US prisons right now, awaiting execution, and I don't believe that their crime, although terrible, warrants the death penalty. I would much prefer that people spend the rest of their miserable lives in jail, rather than take the easy way out.
And what does killing these people prove? America is basically saying, 'Well, if you kill someone, we shall kill you'. Wrong attitude to have. Killing these people wont bring back their victims. Let them suffer in prison.
Originally posted by PrincessMary
America is basically saying, 'Well, if you kill someone, we shall kill you'. Wrong attitude to have. Killing these people wont bring back their victims. Let them suffer in prison.
That's right. Retaliation is the theme of punishment for American prisons, and has been since prisons were started here in the 1800's.
What is an Executioner other than a person who gets payed to murder ?
What's the difference between an Executioner and a Serial Killer ?
They both do the same thing basically. Consistantly kill people. The only real difference is that ONE killing is Legal and the other killing is ILLEGAL...
I am against Death Penalty, same way I am against Abortion.....to me, killing is only justifiable in immediate Self Defense.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
What's the difference between an Executioner and a Serial Killer ?
They both do the same thing basically. Consistantly kill people. The only real difference is that ONE killing is Legal and the other killing is ILLEGAL...
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
botankus...answer me this though.A criminal serial killer murders a man... this is his 8th victim
Goes to court....sentenced to Death Penalty....
Is on Death Row....
He is killed by Lethal Injection
He is his executioner's 57th job.
Whose worse ?
Do you get what I'm trying to say ?
No, what is it?
They both kill. That's the point.
One commits a LEGAL killing, the other commits ILLEGAL killing.
An Executioner's JOB is to kill people.
A Serial Killer usually does it for free.
Now, is this a black/white issue? No. They are obvious differences between an executioner and a serial killer.
But the similiarities are:
1) They both kill routinely
2) They most likely do not care for the person they kill
No MATTER what the reason is, they both kill. That's ultamately what makes them both the same thing.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
They both kill. That's the point.One commits a LEGAL killing, the other commits ILLEGAL killing.
An Executioner's JOB is to kill people.
A Serial Killer usually does it for free.
Now, is this a black/white issue? No. They are obvious differences between an executioner and a serial killer.
But the [B]similiarities
are:1) They both kill routinely
2) They most likely do not care for the person they killNo MATTER what the reason is, they both kill. That's ultamately what makes them both the same thing. [/B]
You're comparing apples and oranges. The serial killer is getting what he or she deserves. An executioiner, if anything, is actually giving the serial killer an easier way out. Instead of making the bastard suffer first, they just inject his or her ass.
A death penalty is one way for the government to say, "If you kill someone, we will kill you back." If ever I were against the death penalty it would be that it didn't make those dumb ****ers who are killing suffer while they die.
"Do on to others as you would have them do on to you."
You can't compare a executioner and a murderer, even if they perform the same action. There is a difference.
An Executioner performs a job that he was hired for, as well as being sent to him from a judge in our court system.
A Murderer performs his action on his own free will.
(sorry if this has been already said )
I am a firm believer of a Eye for an Eye, specifically in the aspect of Murder. Why should someone that takes someone life be sent to Prison where they can get three meals a day, work out, and have access to computers and Cable Televison. On top of that, it is the Tax Payers ( generally the innocent ) that have to pay to keep this individual behind locked doors and off the streets for as many years as the Judge sees fit to keep them there, only to have them released, and if not fully rehabilitated take the chance of them killing again.
Murder is a unforgivable crime, and should be dealt with swiftly and harshly as it was performed.
Originally posted by A.D. Skinner
You can't compare a executioner and a murderer, even if they perform the same action. There is a difference.An Executioner performs a job that he was hired for, as well as being sent to him from a judge in our court system.
A Murderer performs his action on his own free will.
(sorry if this has been already said )
I am a firm believer of a Eye for an Eye, specifically in the aspect of Murder. Why should someone that takes someone life be sent to Prison where they can get three meals a day, work out, and have access to computers and Cable Televison. On top of that, it is the Tax Payers ( generally the innocent ) that have to pay to keep this individual behind locked doors and off the streets for as many years as the Judge sees fit to keep them there, only to have them released, and if not fully rehabilitated take the chance of them killing again.Murder is a unforgivable crime, and should be dealt with swiftly and harshly as it was performed.
With ALL due respect, this is by far one of the most igonrant things I have EVER read regarding prison system...
Do remeber that the 'hollywood' prison, and the real life prison are very different.
Persons who are on death row are in max security prisons. Max security prisons are solitary places, where each member spends 23 hours a day in a cell, alone for YEARS at the time, with no reading material, no conversation, no television or cable or whatever else there is a common idea that prisoners get.
This not only is it inhumane, but extreamly psychologically damaging. Many people who get out of those prisons, if they ever do, commit suicide very quickly upon release, or have no social skills to re-integrate into society.
Second, it is far MORE expensive to kill an inmate on the death row, than it is to keep him/her in prison for life. I thought this fact would be well known by now...guess not.
As for the Death Penalty - it is a direct mockery of the Justice System, and in America in particular it is still largley Afro-Carribean-Americans which are disproportionaly executed in relation to Anglo-Americans.
Even under the most sophisticated death penalty statutes, race continues to play a major role in determining who shall live and who shall die. -Justice Harry Blackmun, 1994
In 2003, African-American are 42 percent of the death row population, although African-Americans constitute 55 percent of all death row inmates. Between 1930 and 1976, 90 percent of people executed for rape were African-American. Furthermore, similar studies show that African-Americans are 4.3 times more likely to be given the death sentence if the victims of their crimes are
white.
Source: Mendieta. E (2004) ''Plantations, ghettos, prisons: US racial geographies'', Journal of Philosophy and Georgraphy, Volume 7, Number 1, pages 43-59
Death row is no less grotesque than the slave ship, the auction block, the tree with its lynched mutilated corpses.
Originally posted by A.D. Skinner
You can't compare a executioner and a murderer, even if they perform the same action. There is a difference.An Executioner performs a job that he was hired for, as well as being sent to him from a judge in our court system.
A Murderer performs his action on his own free will.
Murder is a unforgivable crime, and should be dealt with swiftly and harshly as it was performed.
The irony oozes out of this...........................
At least in our society an Executioner chooses that job and if thats the case doesn't that make them a murderer? It was their free will that elected the job they have.