Originally posted by Devil KingAre we trapped in a Family Guy episode? If so, I think there's a bit about dropping the soap and shit, apparently it is horrible, worse than the death penatly.
I'm up for that, but I'm willing to bet it will be worse than the time you had a job providing night time warmth for Laura Flynn Boyle.
Whenever people bring up death penalty, they go off to some other topic.
True, there are some people better off dead because people had work to do and no one wants to support them.
I am not for death penalty, as I am not for abortion as much as I am not for the need for sexual intercourse out of wedlocks. I see lots of things people could do to prevent this, like not caring if you let off some spoiled, dumb, and blonde 21-year-old brat over someone else who really needs something. Same problem....
People crazy enough to go kill someone need to see a psychiatrist or get social services, as most people who need it are too poor to see one. People try to tell the straight-A-student to go to an asylum and see the counselor.
I don't have any experience myself on a case, however. I have experience in crimes where people really do not care about life, though, as we all know.
I found a story for what Robtard and I were talking about earlier in this thread.
Troy Davis:
Though that article is very biased in Troy's behalf, it is still a very valid issue. This man should NOT get the death penalty. IF the death penalty is going to be enforced, it MUST be a 100% surety.
How can we call ourselves civilized when our system does stupid shit like the above? IF he admitted to the killing of the police officer, and he showed no remorse after incarceration and counseling, by all means, follow through with the death penalty if that is the state law...but you can't kill someone when his guilt is dubious!
Originally posted by Bardock42
Are we trapped in a Family Guy episode? If so, I think there's a bit about dropping the soap and shit, apparently it is horrible, worse than the death penatly.
I wouldn't say horrible. But, I wouldn't say great either. It's kind of like that time we all went on vacation to purgatory.
Originally posted by chithappensI wouldn't put that problem past some juries. Ever read To Kill A Mockingbird? The issue still exists, even though that book a century ago. But I think the problem is decreasing pretty thoroughly.
Does anyone think race plays a factor in who gets the death penalty?I heard this argument about it, and stats supposedly support it (I've been trying to find a link but I'm @ home on dial-up...).
Certainly it has decreased, but I'm so skeptical since black people are so quick to play the role of victim as a whole without even knowing the topic of discussion.
I say this being a black male who witnesses this "blind afrocentricity" all the time. It makes subjects like these hard to understand. On one hand, there's obviously discrimination in some respects in the U.S., but to say it also translates to the courtroom would be hard to prove, in general.
Inlamist normally has random stats so maybe he will know something odd on this.
Originally posted by chithappens
Does anyone think race plays a factor in who gets the death penalty?I heard this argument about it, and stats supposedly support it (I've been trying to find a link but I'm @ home on dial-up...).
I assume you are talking per capita. (based on the number of each race incarcerated.)
If you are talking just numbers, it makes sense that more blacks will be executed because there is a higher number incarcerated.
Then there is also violent crimes, by race, committed per capita. Violent crimes get the death penalty.
I haven't read all the posts so if i repeated what someone else said kudos to that person. I believe in the death penalty. I don't know why there is death row because it should be like straight out of the court room right into the death pit or whatever. I understand the system we have is not perfect and innocent people do get caught. Hell I would get really pissed but is the life of one in exchanges for the retribution that many familes deserve worth it. No system is without fault but it doesn't mean we can't try for the greater good. Also tax money is being used for holding people on death row, or holding people for life, or holding people who really don't deserve another chance after they most lkeily have repeated a crime unless they just did one heinous crime (this is a special case I know). I also believe that the qualification for the death Penalty should be laxed so that criminals know that the is the ultimate price for crimes on another human being. Fear and death may not be the answer some people say look at so and so country and they have yadda yadda but I don't think it will work for this country. I think criminals or would be criminals fear of execution should stave off much crime. Possibly more extreme sentences for rape or repeated crimes should be in order. And to spend money on maximum security prisons for non-pows/or terrorist related people is ridiculous. If they are that dangerous to the world why let them live. As for people who say human beings or gov do not have the right to do take away life. People with far less morales and ethics do it all the time. So why not defend ourselves against people who are willing to kill. Make it known that there is no life after you just murdered someone there is no future for you to look forward to there is nothing.
the only thing I would say against the death penalty is if we had gladitorial like matches. Not really a death penalty but we can still find a away to kill the evildoers and make money off it b/c people will pay to see other people get killed. Its not automatic death there is a chance of survival. that would be interesting but terribly barbaric. 👿
Originally posted by Lord FeronPeople should start slowly. It's too much to kill someone for sex.
I haven't read all the posts so if i repeated what someone else said kudos to that person. I believe in the death penalty. I don't know why there is death row because it should be like straight out of the court room right into the death pit or whatever. I understand the system we have is not perfect and innocent people do get caught. Hell I would get really pissed but is the life of one in exchanges for the retribution that many familes deserve worth it. No system is without fault but it doesn't mean we can't try for the greater good. Also tax money is being used for holding people on death row, or holding people for life, or holding people who really don't deserve another chance after they most lkeily have repeated a crime unless they just did one heinous crime (this is a special case I know). I also believe that the qualification for the death Penalty should be laxed so that criminals know that the is the ultimate price for crimes on another human being. Fear and death may not be the answer some people say look at so and so country and they have yadda yadda but I don't think it will work for this country. I think criminals or would be criminals fear of execution should stave off much crime. Possibly more extreme sentences for rape or repeated crimes should be in order. And to spend money on maximum security prisons for non-pows/or terrorist related people is ridiculous. If they are that dangerous to the world why let them live. As for people who say human beings or gov do not have the right to do take away life. People with far less morales and ethics do it all the time. So why not defend ourselves against people who are willing to kill. Make it known that there is no life after you just murdered someone there is no future for you to look forward to there is nothing.
There should be rules against too much homework because I know the busywork comes on to keeping tired students up past midnight because of teachers getting back at calling the trouble-makers of the class stupid, since they essentially don't accomplish anything in calss for anyone. It's things like this that actually split the families and cause kids to get in car wrecks or not even get a car, like me, yet..
And things like ballet schools? I was a perfect student and always wanted to. Some parents do not trust the ballet schools just because of things like racism really. There was not racial problem to begin with, just really racist-looking white people. But I could not keep up because I was worried about everyone looking at me and never had time to learn from this book I found the many terms when I was 15. People think their daughters in ballet is just so precious. They all quit at 12, 16, even. There are some college side ballet programs like the ballet minor at Loyola, but it also has a lot of kids at night there, but not much at all. Loyola does not have a dance major, though, and it is considered professional. The teachers have studied in Russia.
What else.... I mean the death sentence is indeed an issue, but you can't go too far with criminal justice.
Originally posted by Lord FeronBut that is real life to me.
the only thing I would say against the death penalty is if we had gladitorial like matches. Not really a death penalty but we can still find a away to kill the evildoers and make money off it b/c people will pay to see other people get killed. Its not automatic death there is a chance of survival. that would be interesting but terribly barbaric. 👿