Death Penalty

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I haven't read all the posts so if i repeated what someone else said kudos to that person. I believe in the death penalty. I don't know why there is death row because it should be like straight out of the court room right into the death pit or whatever. I understand the system we have is not perfect and innocent people do get caught. Hell I would get really pissed but is the life of one in exchanges for the retribution that many familes deserve worth it. No system is without fault but it doesn't mean we can't try for the greater good. Also tax money is being used for holding people on death row, or holding people for life, or holding people who really don't deserve another chance after they most lkeily have repeated a crime unless they just did one heinous crime (this is a special case I know). I also believe that the qualification for the death Penalty should be laxed so that criminals know that the is the ultimate price for crimes on another human being. Fear and death may not be the answer some people say look at so and so country and they have yadda yadda but I don't think it will work for this country. I think criminals or would be criminals fear of execution should stave off much crime. Possibly more extreme sentences for rape or repeated crimes should be in order. And to spend money on maximum security prisons for non-pows/or terrorist related people is ridiculous. If they are that dangerous to the world why let them live. As for people who say human beings or gov do not have the right to do take away life. People with far less morales and ethics do it all the time. So why not defend ourselves against people who are willing to kill. Make it known that there is no life after you just murdered someone there is no future for you to look forward to there is nothing.

I see your point, but as Robtard and I were discussing, a person should NOT be killed if even the innocence is questioned. They need a 100% undeniable conviction...not the decisions of a jury based on eye witnesses and testimony. (We need things like DNA, surveillance, etc.)

I do not agree to the gladiator type of execution, that is barbaric. We are supposed to be progressing as humans not taking steps back.

If specific crimes can be directly correlated to specific or general biological markers, treatments may be available in the future and the death penalty could become obsolete. People could be rehabilitated and integrated back into society. Gene therapy could be a very real solution in the near future.

Though I am talking well beyond my scope of knowledge, if we can change how one thinks, we could reeducate and reintegrate people back into society. This brings up ethical questions such as, "Do we have the right to virtually change the personality of an individual so that they conform to generally(or universally) accepted societal norms?" If that comes into question, I guess we could give the criminal the option of the death penalty of reeducation.

This idea reminds me of the drug controlled future from Equilibrium...but not quite. More like the hybridization of scientific futures of Gattaca and Equilibrium.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I see your point, but as Robtard and I were discussing, a person should NOT be killed if even the innocence is questioned. They need a 100% undeniable conviction...not the decisions of a jury based on eye witnesses and testimony. (We need things like DNA, surveillance, etc.)

I do not agree to the gladiator type of execution, that is barbaric. We are supposed to be progressing as humans not taking steps back.

If specific crimes can be directly correlated to specific or general biological markers, treatments may be available in the future and the death penalty could become obsolete. People could be rehabilitated and integrated back into society. Gene therapy could be a very real solution in the near future.

Though I am talking well beyond my scope of knowledge, if we can change how one thinks, we could reeducate and reintegrate people back into society. This brings up ethical questions such as, "Do we have the right to virtually change the personality of an individual so that they conform to generally(or universally) accepted societal norms?" If that comes into question, I guess we could give the criminal the option of the death penalty of reeducation.

This idea reminds me of the drug controlled future from Equilibrium...but not quite. More like the hybridization of scientific futures of Gattaca and Equilibrium.

Like, I have ancestors from China as far back as 500 years ago. I say I am white-European and that is where my interests lie and where my thought has taken place. You would still say in what you just posted that my question that you would be racist is the thing I need to get gene therapy for. You would literally be saying I need to get therapy because you are racist and believe I want something I don't even want.

This makes me suspicious on life and death issues..

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I don't want to be forced into Chinese gene therapy..

You all certainly bring up DNA a lot. I hope we can improve our postings, too, not to seem so repetative. A warm bath and good meal.. maybe we'll feel better.

Well, the later pictures look like a wonderful white-European advanced life. If only the adults in the world would not wake up jealous. I mean, why didn't everyone have this life? Why doesn't everyone look like this? Because they weren't allowed to. You can't feel good anyway.

Bringing "race" into ever topic, nice.

Originally posted by VioletEyesPop08
I hope we can improve our postings, too, not to seem so repetative.

Originally posted by Robtard
Bringing "race" into ever topic, nice.

Originally posted by Quark_666
Yeah, me too.

Originally posted by VioletEyesPop08
It gets silly for people over 21 3/4, however, since the attack is on people like me. 😄 Don't worry, you'll get there. 😄Yea, as soon as we're over this "race" sabbatical.. 😬 ..we will..

Show us your butthole, sock-of-race. *some emote* *some other emote* *yet another emote*

i do think there's poeple that deserve to die but i dont really agree with the courts giving the death penalty because it's regulated vendetta. if you want revenge you have to earn revevnge just expecting big brother to take care of it for you makes you weak and not worthy of the pleasure that is true justice.

Originally posted by red g jacks
i do think there's poeple that deserve to die but i dont really agree with the courts giving the death penalty because it's regulated vendetta. if you want revenge you have to earn revevnge just expecting big brother to take care of it for you makes you weak and not worthy of the pleasure that is true justice.

WTF? How do you earn revenge? How is abiding by a system of laws, a weakness? What is the "pleasure of true justice?"

Also, vigilante style justice is dangerous, as there's a bigger chance an innocent person could be murdered by mistake. Then you have a domino style effect and mayhem.

that's why death aint something that should be regulated

but all that innocent till proven guilty shit goes out the window outside the courtroom.

dur

if your loved one was murdered you wouldnt take revenge?

say your mother is murdered. your wife. you just sit back and do nothing?

Originally posted by red g jacks
if your loved one was murdered you wouldnt take revenge?

say your mother is murdered. your wife. you just sit back and do nothing?

I'd sure want to. But it isn't feasable in most occasions or is it necessarilly a wise course of action.

You give the courts a chance to properly do their job, becuase there is the chance that the accused is innocent, so if you just said "**** it, I'm killing somebody", you might end up killing an innocent person. Then as noted, you could get a domino effect in your bad-ass-western vision of how society should be, Clint.

Edit: You also didn't answer a single question I asked, tacky.

i know that you dont kill on hear-say you find out who did it for a fact.

i know in the courtroom they're innocent till proven guilty and that basically translates to how good your lawyer is and the bigger the bankroll the more innocent they seem.

but in real life, either you did it, or u didnt. and walls talk lots.

Originally posted by red g jacks
i know that you dont kill on hear-say you find out who did it for a fact.

i know in the courtroom they're innocent till proven guilty and that basically translates to how good your lawyer is and the bigger the bankroll the more innocent they seem.

but in real life, either you did it, or u didnt. and walls talk lots.

How can you be certain for an absolute fact, at least in a courtroom, there's evidence, witness etc. etc. etc. and they're scrutinized repeatedly.

No, that translates to a just and reasonable society. Sure people do get away with shit, because of money; OJ being a perfect example. Still, it works more times than not.

As compared to fake-life, where either you did do it by not doing it, or you didn't do it by doing it? Really, what are those walls saying?

You still didn't answer my questions.

Originally posted by VioletEyesPop08
I feel that if you said that to me.. you would be talking crap, though. >regarding the gene therapy (if you said I needed it, though)

Like, I have ancestors from China as far back as 500 years ago. I say I am white-European and that is where my interests lie and where my thought has taken place. You would still say in what you just posted that my question that you would be racist is the thing I need to get gene therapy for. You would literally be saying I need to get therapy because you are racist and believe I want something I don't even want.

This makes me suspicious on life and death issues..

I don't want to be forced into Chinese gene therapy..

You all certainly bring up DNA a lot. I hope we can improve our postings, too, not to seem so repetative. A warm bath and good meal.. maybe we'll feel better.

Well, the later pictures look like a wonderful white-European advanced life. If only the adults in the world would not wake up jealous. I mean, why didn't everyone have this life? Why doesn't everyone look like this? Because they weren't allowed to. You can't feel good anyway.

If you spam again, you will be banned. Don't do it again.

[Edit] Change that...you were warned before and completely ignore the previous warning. This is an official Permanent Banned.

lol

that was funny

but nah how you know for a fact is that theres always witnesses. always. now im not talkin abuot legal witnesses, because nobody wants to be labeled a snitch. but for real if someone gets murderd unless they're in the middle of nowhere SOMEBODY saw that shit. they're scared to go to court but they might let you know who did it. i mean if u really cant find the killer u cant find the killer but if you know point blank whodidit then whats your next move?

Originally posted by dadudemon
I see your point, but as Robtard and I were discussing, a person should NOT be killed if even the innocence is questioned. They need a 100% undeniable conviction...not the decisions of a jury based on eye witnesses and testimony. (We need things like DNA, surveillance, etc.)

I do not agree to the gladiator type of execution, that is barbaric. We are supposed to be progressing as humans not taking steps back.

If specific crimes can be directly correlated to specific or general biological markers, treatments may be available in the future and the death penalty could become obsolete. People could be rehabilitated and integrated back into society. Gene therapy could be a very real solution in the near future.

Though I am talking well beyond my scope of knowledge, if we can change how one thinks, we could reeducate and reintegrate people back into society. This brings up ethical questions such as, "Do we have the right to virtually change the personality of an individual so that they conform to generally(or universally) accepted societal norms?" If that comes into question, I guess we could give the criminal the option of the death penalty of reeducation.

This idea reminds me of the drug controlled future from Equilibrium...but not quite. More like the hybridization of scientific futures of Gattaca and Equilibrium.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
If you spam again, you will be banned. Don't do it again.

[Edit] Change that...you were warned before and completely ignore the previous warning. This is an official Permanent Banned.

*Plays "Another one bites the dust"*

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Wait before I say anything that may result in a ban. What is spamming like keep on saying what you said before ?

In short yes but it's more about taking up excessive space and not saying anything at all.

Someone can define it better I'm sure

I'd watch out for that. Thanks