Originally posted by DPFW16
I've read this several times from several different people working on comic book related movies... The movie is supposed to be able to draw EVERYONE in; not just the people who are already fans. To do this, they create a new story- a story that is different from what the fans know so they won't feel "cheated" and a story that will bring in new fans. Sometimes that involves (even necessitates) minor alterations to the character.
Their objective (bring in new fans while keeping the old fans) sounds reasonable to me and the subtle differences seem the best way to achieve that goal.
Boy people just dont listen around here.the change was ONLY made because Raimi was too lazy to want to try and put them in.He did not want to use the extra minutes or so to put them in because he was too damn lazy to want to take the time with it,dont buy into that garbage sony is using to brainwash people into believeing that they did it to try and draw everyone in,they just dont want to admit the truth that Raimi was too lazy to want to put them in so they made this MAJOR change that rapes to death his character and we get MAN-SPIDER on the screen instead of spider-man,simple as that,nothing complicated about it. 🙄
Originally posted by NiñoArñia
i like the organics 😮 idreallyk why ppl make a big deal out of them 🤨
well your not a true fan then because a true fan would be outraged about seeing the character of man-spider on the screen instead of spiderman.the big deal is some of us care that raimi and sony raped to death his character and gave us man-spider and not spider-man.simple as that. 🙄
I suppose the change was kind of necessary if you think about it. When I first saw that Peter had organic webbing I was like, "WTF?" because I was expecting to see him construct his web-shooters. But if you give it enough thought it makes more sense why they used the organic webbing. If clinging to walls and seeing things before they happen are part of his genetics now, why can't he shoot webbing from his wrist? Makes more sense with the organic webbing if you ask me. I can understand that the web-shooters symoblize his genius, but I think the movies pretty much cover that with all the comments and compliments the characters give him for his love and knowledge of science.
ok i'll say it before Mr. Parker does.....It's because if genetics is what changed him, then the webs should shoot out out of Peter's butt like those of a real spider.
But then again, I'm not one for using real-life logic to back up ANY comic book science. Real spiders can cling to walls yes, but don't have a "spider-sense", ie, seeing things before they happen. That's just hodge-podge ridiculous. Perhaps they have sensory hairs that alert them to their surroundings better than humans, but having "a feeling of danger?" Please.
And if they wanted to go all out, they shoulda had Peter get fangs, 8 eyes, 8 legs, etc.
The organics didn't affect me that much, but seeing Peter build webshooters would've been nice. They even had him do that in the 70s Nicholas Hammond series.
Originally posted by SpyCspider
ok i'll say it before Mr. Parker does.....It's because if genetics is what changed him, then the webs should shoot out out of Peter's butt like those of a real spider.But then again, I'm not one for using real-life logic to back up ANY comic book science. Real spiders can cling to walls yes, but don't have a "spider-sense", ie, seeing things before they happen. That's just hodge-podge ridiculous. Perhaps they have sensory hairs that alert them to their surroundings better than humans, but having "a feeling of danger?" Please.
And if they wanted to go all out, they shoulda had Peter get fangs, 8 eyes, 8 legs, etc.
The organics didn't affect me that much, but seeing Peter build webshooters would've been nice. They even had him do that in the 70s Nicholas Hammond series.
Thank you. 😄 that folks is WHY the organics do NOT make sense and WHY it was unnessary.
Originally posted by Drache53
I hate this bloody thread... lol Mr. Parker keep shooting these poor guys down even AFTER I told them to give up.(And no, Mr. Parker, that does not mean that I am seeing things your way) [see my post on the previous page]
Meh... he's just a poor fellow who has nothing else to do. If anything, he probably masturbates to the movies.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
Boy people just dont listen around here.the change was ONLY made because Raimi was too lazy to want to try and put them in.He did not want to use the extra minutes or so to put them in because he was too damn lazy to want to take the time with it,dont buy into that garbage sony is using to brainwash people into believeing that they did it to try and draw everyone in,they just dont want to admit the truth that Raimi was too lazy to want to put them in so they made this MAJOR change that rapes to death his character and we get MAN-SPIDER on the screen instead of spider-man,simple as that,nothing complicated about it. 🙄
My god your annoying Parker , Lazy,Lazy, Lazy . Jesus Christ . Have you ever considered that they were trying to make the film just a weeny bit realistic.
I mean , the suit i could understand. Anyone can come up with a super hero costume.
But the webshooters ?
People STILL can't make an effective version of one of them (Even now mankind is incapable of doing such a thing) and suddenly some snot-nosed punk can do it out of the blue. Give me a break.
Raimi gave parker the organics so people wouldn't have to try and accept a high school science kind being able to do something which an entire group of heavily paid scientists couldn't do.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
well your not a true fan then because a true fan would be outraged about seeing the character of man-spider on the screen instead of spiderman.the big deal is some of us care that raimi and sony raped to death his character and gave us man-spider and not spider-man.simple as that. 🙄
And what suddenly makes you a 'true fan' mr elite . Is it because you whine over a stupid and small part of a film . Or because you make yourself sound like a fascist ?
Originally posted by grey fox
My god your annoying Parker , Lazy,Lazy, Lazy . Jesus Christ . Have you ever considered that they were trying to make the film just a weeny bit realistic.I mean , the suit i could understand. Anyone can come up with a super hero costume.
But the webshooters ?
People STILL can't make an effective version of one of them (Even now mankind is incapable of doing such a thing) and suddenly some snot-nosed punk can do it out of the blue. Give me a break.
Raimi gave parker the organics so people wouldn't have to try and accept a high school science kind being able to do something which an entire group of heavily paid scientists couldn't do.
And what suddenly makes you a 'true fan' mr elite . Is it because you whine over a stupid and small part of a film . Or because you make yourself sound like a fascist ?
See your one of those people I was talking about that have allowed sony to brainwash you into accepting their absurd logic with their lies they throw down at you that you blindly swallow.your logic is as laughable and as foolish as sami's was.if you had bothered to read ALL my posts instead of just parts of it,you would have seen my points that shoot down those lame and laughable lies from sony that you guys keep blindly swollowing.you guys keep blasting away at the webshooters but you cant accept the truth that peter getting all these powers of a spider from a spiderbite of a genetically altered spider to cling to walls,have super strength,and have a spider sense is EVERY bit as illogical if not even more so than a teenage kid creating a formula that no entire group of scientists have even been able to create.so enough of that stupid logic about how the webshooters are unbelieveable but gaining the powers of a spider to cling to walls is.that is stupid logic and you know it. 😆 😆 in your OWN words give me a break. No its just that true fans care about sony raping to death his character like they have,as I said before,I would rather be a whiner than a mindless drone who allows themselves to be brainwashed by sonys lies they use that you all blindly swallow and eat up. 😆
okay pay attention because this fact somehow seems to escape you man-spider fans. RAIMI "ONLY" USED THE ORGANICS BECAUSE HE WAS TOO DAMN LAZY TO WANT TO USE THE EXTRA 5 MINUTES OF SCREENTIME IT WOULD TAKE TO USE THE MECHS. NOTHING MORE. there was that big enough in writing for you to see and understand? because i dont know how to explain it anymore simple than that.Nothing complicated about that explanation.again stop swallowing those lies sony tells you,you are doing exactly what they want you to do. 🙄
well said Jimmy.some people here just cant seem to grasp it though that there have been MANY instances in the past though where a kid genius created something that no government agency had been able to create.In fact I remember years ago reading in the paper about some teenage kid genius created something that no government agency firm or group of scientists had ever been able to create that they had been TRYING to create for ages.so that whole teenage kid argument is laughable and stupid.
But did parker show any of those 'wizz kid' skills in the film. No.
And yes Parker if you think about Spider-man is an illogical thing in it's entirety . But if you think it's so illogical why the hell do you still read the comics. And lazy ..please. I'd like to see you write and direct a better script.
Also , i'm not brainwahsed . Your just a fascist who 'thinks' (stress on that word) that he is the 'Leet' because he actualy cares about a tiny part of the film.
ah please,give me the screenwriters who did the first two superman movies or the one who did Batman Begins and finally a good spiderman movie would have been made.these movies,ESPECIALLY the first one,look like they were written by a 5 year old.of course he didnt show them in the film because that idiot sam raimi was the director,thats my point they SHOULD have been shown in the film but because that idiot sam raimi was directing they weren't.where in the hell did I say that I STILL read the comics? please show me WHERE I said that. I stopped reading the spiderman comics when they went and got him married to that whore mj.believe it or not,I hated that marriage to mj far worse than i do organics.sure you,because you buy into their moronic explanations they use on you that they used to brainwash movie goers.
my last post before this one shoots down your laughable and stupid logic which again is every bit as bad as sami's was. 😛
according to the kind of logic you have,it would be okay for them to get some fat actor like John goodman to play the role of peter parker,after all,its just a tiny part of the film. 😆
Originally posted by Mr Parker
ah please,give me the screenwriters who did the first two superman movies or the one who did Batman Begins and finally a good spiderman movie would have been made.these movies,ESPECIALLY the first one,look like they were written by a 5 year old.of course he didnt show them in the film because that idiot sam raimi was the director,thats my point they SHOULD have been shown in the film but because that idiot sam raimi was directing they weren't.where in the hell did I say that I STILL read the comics? please show me WHERE I said that. I stopped reading the spiderman comics when they went and got him married to that whore mj.believe it or not,I hated that marriage to mj far worse than i do organics.sure you,because you buy into their moronic explanations they use on you that they used to brainwash movie goers.my last post before this one shoots down your laughable and stupid logic which again is every bit as bad as sami's was. 😛
according to the kind of logic you have,it would be okay for them to get some fat actor like John goodman to play the role of peter parker,after all,its just a tiny part of the film. 😆
😆 Yup , you just checked off on all the major chump list's parker.
Don't tell me , you also blame all the crappy stories on Mj too .
Also you laugh at MY debating skills. You have some gall boy , considering most of your post's consist of you whining about organics , call Sam Rami an idiot (FyI if he's an idiot why is it he's FILTHY STINKING RICH ) , and saying people are brainwashed.
Your logic is the flawed one here , if his powers are 100% organic then they should Also include spinnerets, but wait !
I can almost hear your response now ...
they should be out of his ass lololo l !!!!!!!!!!!11111
Hah , very funny. Looks like you killed your groupies with that one 'pal' .
The spinnerets are located in the abdomen because of the spiders anatomy and shape. It constantly crawls and 'jumps' ergo the spinnerets should stay behind it. We can move from other extremities though. Our hands are always in front of us and we walk upright their fore it makes more sense for the spinnerets to be placed within our arms (for initial web creation/spinning)