Thor without hammer vs spider man, captain america, wolverine and daredevil

Originally posted by Smaxxer
First fight between Thor and Juggernaut : Thor was outclassed.
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So ?
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Spider-Man has fought at least three times against Juggernaut, and yes it was very "up close and personal with bare fists" and he always walked away just fine.

Again, to avoid misunderstandings, Thor has a good chance beating these four guys, but the team definitely has the edge against a hammerless Thor.

P.S. jinzin, that fight is one of the crappiest one with those happened in Contest of Champions.
Wrecker who's Class 50 as Loki can throw through a neighbourhood guys like Wolverine of those on his level, and so can do Loki.
Cap beating him was bull.sh.it

Thor without hammer should win, no doubt.

Originally posted by K3VIL
In the second match, he goes all out, and still unable to physically damage him, he stunned him, he contained him.
Not many guys can do that. Not many guys can survive real brawl with Juggernaut. Thor got pummeled from him real bad, and still was on his feet.

War Hulk pretty much easily defeated Juggernaut. Nimrod completely outmatched Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Xplosive
War Hulk pretty much easily defeated Juggernaut. Nimrod completely outmatched Juggernaut.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Nimrod blasted Juggernaut hundred feet away with a gravity beam.
Then used his hi-tech weapons to jam his brain bypassing Cyttorak's magic.
War Hulk defeated Juggernaut?
They traded blows, Juggy got tossed around, but was still on his feet, UNHURTED.The fight ended with WH pulling out a sword, believing he could behead Juggy.
Uhhh what a fight.
Actually Juggy was just on his back, he could have certainly get up and pummel that powered up Hulk.
Nimrod didn't outmatched Juggy physically.

Nimrod won the fight and just outmatched Juggernuat (he could kil him), but not in pure strenght. On Earth only Apocalypse and Hulk can go toe to toe with Juggernaut.
War Hulk won. Only who was pummeled was Juggs, if he would get up, he would be pummeled again.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm going to go through this very simply for you. Earth escape velocity is around 11,200 m/s. Wolverine's mass is approximately 136 kg. The momentum that has to be put into Wolverine is 136 kg x 11,200 m/s = 1,523,200 kgm/s. Assuming this change in momentum occurs in, for arguments sake, 2 seconds then the amount of force exerted over that 2 seconds required to do so is 1,523,200/2 = 761,600 N which is equivalent weight force of 77,714 kg or a mass of 78 metric tonnes = 86 tons. So, yes. Thor (and a lot of other people) can launch Wolverine (and the other three) out of Earth atmosphere. Andyes it will very much kill them.

Just one of the ways Thor wins.

wolverine's already been punched hard enough to reach escape velocity.. he seems okay to me...

Originally posted by jinzin
wolverine's already been punched hard enough to reach escape velocity.. he seems okay to me...

oh yeah... no argument there..

Thor can do it, but he doesn't need it to win.
He has beat the crap outta guys who can outmatch the street team anyday, without tossing them into space.
I'm sick of explaining why and how, cause it seems guys like smaxxer and jinzin can't see forward their eyesight, they can't see the truth.

the hell are you talking about? I already said thor probably wins.. I just don't think it's as big a curbstomp as you seem to... I mean hell you've already shown us that cap alone is a pretty big pain in the ass and potentially deadly to thor... so... 😕

Edit:

"And yet on another ocassion he punked the "Thor Corps" wich had Mcsterson Thor, Beta Ray Bill and Draco"

Oops. The third guy`s name its Dargo, not Draco.

Originally posted by jinzin
the hell are you talking about? I already said thor probably wins.. I just don't think it's as big a curbstomp as you seem to... I mean hell you've already shown us that cap alone is a pretty big pain in the ass and potentially deadly to thor... so... 😕

<<Leonidas, you are liing when you said that spidey NEVER did well against class 100 people, what is false. . And you show the pics in the worst spidy fights against the hulk or juggernaut. Could you post the pics when spidey fought thor in a what if special and did pretty well against him, even with his hammer? Could you post the first fight between spidey and juggernautt, when spidey did pretty well and the powerful juggernautt couldnt beat the pathethic spider man? could you post the pics of thor fighting juggernautt in his own series, first encounter, and juggernaut almost killed him , and thor was saved by the group of firestar? Could you post the time that thor was almost killed, with his hammer, against a poor female version of sand man, a guy who is regular beatby spidey? Could you post the first spiderman number with the hulk in it, and what spidey did? could you post the pic when spidey lift a car and throw it to the sagave green hulk? could you post some of the others encounters between the hulk and spidey , in both spidey and hulk series, in when the majority of the times spidey did pretty well? Could you post when spidey humillates namor in a ship near to the sea, where namor is most powerful and is class 100? Could you post a pic when spidey humillates the most avanced iron man armor from the future only with his fists? Please, posting that spidey never didnt well against class 100 people is stupid. >>

dude, i'll take a lot of things on this forum cuz there are a LOT of ignorant people -- being called a 'liar' is not one of them. i'd thought perhaps you were NOT one of the ignorant, and rather merely had a dissenting opinion which i could respect if not agree with.

SCANS DO NOT LIE. spidey's first encounter with hulk (in the famous 118-119 would not help you anymore than my scans did (which are clearly FARR more recent and relevent). in that 2-part series, spidey stayed away from hulk and tried to beat him with brains - again, physically he did nothing to hulk. he threw a car at him? so? might as well hit him with a flyswatter. your point? the first juggs battle - which i mentioned several times - spidey did NOTHING! he tricked him into cement!! which i repeatedly said.

sandman is cl100?? and i don't CARE how others have done against others -- i'm talking how spidey did against cl100. NAME ONE CL100 CHARACTER SPIDEY HAS BEATEN IN A STRAIGHT UP FIGHT!! i'll help you - titania. and she was terrified of him. when she got over her fear even SHE trashed him!

i LOVE spidey. he does not do well against cl100 people. unless you count dodging aroudn as 'doing well'.

<<Second, the people who said that spiderman, captain america and wolverine are street level people?>>

pretty well EVERYONE on the forum . . .

<<Anwser me, if thor could do so many things without the hammer, why he does everything with his hammer?>>

i can walk to work -- why drive a car?? stupid question. he has the hammer -- why WOULDN'T he use it. and he didn't ALWAYS have it. he is STILL THE GOD OF THUNDER!!!!!!!! you think he was born with the f'n hammer.

<<This team has a very big great chance against thor without his hammer. No doubt about it. Plus, they are four people, not only one. Four very fast and trained people who are specialists in beating most powerful people. Spidey with firelord, namor, iron man, juggernaut, lizard, sandman , doctor octopus, fantastic four or the x men. Cap with mister hyde or the same namor. daredevil with the same hyde. Wolverine with wendigo or saberthoot or another powerful x men foes. This team could beat thor without his hammer.>>

don't mention spidey firelord -- pisses off a lot of people and is considered the quintessential PIS story.

that aside - i could respect your opinion, though i disagree with it. however, DON'T call me a liar. i've collected comics longer than you've been born.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Spider-Man is all jumping and flipping against Juggy, he knows he'll be owned in a hth fight.

Thor was affected by some sort of nausea when he first meet Juggernaut.

In the second match, he goes all out, and still unable to physically damage him, he stunned him, he contained him.

Not many guys can do that.Not many guys can survive real brawl with Juggernaut.Thor got pummeled from him real bad, and still was on his feet.

The Team has an edge over Thor? Man you have issues.

wlverines been hit by hulk in rage and been fine and kept on fighting and got hitt many more time and still keeps fighting tell me how thors gunna easily ko him? by the way wolverine has foughten in space when he had no suit on just him vs weapon 15. weapon 15 was totaly bad ass to.

"Second, the people who said that spiderman, captain america and wolverine are street level people"

Compared with guys like Thor they are consider as such. Even tho if you want to be analitical. Of those four only Cap and Daredevil are. Wolverine is a shade above. Spidey is meta.

true I should not of called u a fool. but u clearly don't know to much about wolverine. (offical marvel role playing game) read the stats they are offical wolverine strength is stated to be at least 2 ton -10 tons thats what a strength 4 has between 2 tons and 10 tons. (marvel vs dc) states agility,reflex,strength,durability,stamina are all at superhuman level.. (wolverine hand book 2004) states wolverines strength at level 4 which is super human. (hulks ultimate official guide) states wolverine has super human strength.

Originally posted by leonidas
<<Leonidas, you are liing when you said that spidey NEVER did well against class 100 people, what is false. . And you show the pics in the worst spidy fights against the hulk or juggernaut. Could you post the pics when spidey fought thor in a what if special and did pretty well against him, even with his hammer? Could you post the first fight between spidey and juggernautt, when spidey did pretty well and the powerful juggernautt couldnt beat the pathethic spider man? could you post the pics of thor fighting juggernautt in his own series, first encounter, and juggernaut almost killed him , and thor was saved by the group of firestar? Could you post the time that thor was almost killed, with his hammer, against a poor female version of sand man, a guy who is regular beatby spidey? Could you post the first spiderman number with the hulk in it, and what spidey did? could you post the pic when spidey lift a car and throw it to the sagave green hulk? could you post some of the others encounters between the hulk and spidey , in both spidey and hulk series, in when the majority of the times spidey did pretty well? Could you post when spidey humillates namor in a ship near to the sea, where namor is most powerful and is class 100? Could you post a pic when spidey humillates the most avanced iron man armor from the future only with his fists? Please, posting that spidey never didnt well against class 100 people is stupid. >>

dude, i'll take a lot of things on this forum cuz there are a LOT of ignorant people -- being called a 'liar' is not one of them. i'd thought perhaps you were NOT one of the ignorant, and rather merely had a dissenting opinion which i could respect if not agree with.

Ok, i recognize that i was over the top in my last post calling you a liar. Sorry if it bothered you. Im not agree with you but i respect your opinion.

SCANS DO NOT LIE. spidey's first encounter with hulk (in the famous 118-119 would not help you anymore than my scans did (which are clearly FARR more recent and relevent). in that 2-part series, spidey stayed away from hulk and tried to beat him with brains - again, physically he did nothing to hulk. he threw a car at him? so? might as well hit him with a flyswatter. your point? the first juggs battle - which i mentioned several times - spidey did NOTHING! he tricked him into cement!! which i repeatedly said.
The issue is, in those numbers, maybe spidey didnt beat the hulk, but also the hulk didnt beat spidey. Also with juggernautt. Juggy didnt beat him either.

sandman is cl100?? and i don't CARE how others have done against others -- i'm talking how spidey did against cl100. NAME ONE CL100 CHARACTER SPIDEY HAS BEATEN IN A STRAIGHT UP FIGHT!! i'll help you - titania. and she was terrified of him. when she got over her fear even SHE trashed him!

Read my before post, spidey almost did beat namor in a ship in water. Namor in water is class 100. Spidey was beating namor until namor went on water again. Iron man armor from the future is the most avanced iron man armor ever. Its class 100 or nearly. Spidey did beat him. Spidey did beat the fantastic four togheter . Spidey did beat a x-me group including wolverine, cyclops, collossus, night crawler or storm. Spidey did beat sandman who is very powerful. Spidey did beat absorving man who could be class 100 and is a thor foe. And yeah, as you mentioned, he did beat titania. He did beat most powerful people like electro, lizard, doc ock or venom and carnage together. He did beat the crap of power man , who is two or three times stronger than him. He did beat the crap of rhino , who is class 85. And not forget one thing, he did pretty well against the same thor, in a what if special. At the first of the encounter, thor was so arrogant as always and thought that spidey was merely mortal and an insect for him and he prooves him in a semi fight. Spidey strenght and speed impressed thor very much, a thor with his hammer, and then they joined to fight the villain in that number. Once again, in a avengers number, spidey fight cap, thor ,iron man and hawkeye , and they were in problems to contain spidey. So, spidey is very capable of beat most powerful people, even class 100 people.

i LOVE spidey. he does not do well against cl100 people. unless you count dodging aroudn as 'doing well'.

Read my last post

<<Second, the people who said that spiderman, captain america and wolverine are street level people?>>

pretty well EVERYONE on the forum . . .

So all those people are wrong. Daredevil is streel level, ok , clearly. But spidey is super human, wolverine is super human and cap is over human.

<<Anwser me, if thor could do so many things without the hammer, why he does everything with his hammer?>>

i can walk to work -- why drive a car?? stupid question. he has the hammer -- why WOULDN'T he use it. and he didn't ALWAYS have it. he is STILL THE GOD OF THUNDER!!!!!!!! you think he was born with the f'n hammer.
But please, when thor changed into a human without his hammer? when thor has travelled into space or time without his hammer? And we are talking about regular thor.
<<This team has a very big great chance against thor without his hammer. No doubt about it. Plus, they are four people, not only one. Four very fast and trained people who are specialists in beating most powerful people. Spidey with firelord, namor, iron man, juggernaut, lizard, sandman , doctor octopus, fantastic four or the x men. Cap with mister hyde or the same namor. daredevil with the same hyde. Wolverine with wendigo or saberthoot or another powerful x men foes. This team could beat thor without his hammer.>>

don't mention spidey firelord -- pisses off a lot of people and is considered the quintessential PIS story.

Ok, pis story. But he won.

that aside - i could respect your opinion, though i disagree with it. however, DON'T call me a liar. i've collected comics longer than you've been born.

I repeat, sorry for that. But please, dont post those class of sentences. That sounds arrogant. If even you dont know me and dont know my age, how do you know that you have collected comics longer than i was born?It doesnt make sense.

And i repeat, wolverine , spidey and cap arent in streel level. They are superhuman. Only daredevil is in that class.

well actauly spidy and wolverine are super human levels but capt is not he is only peak human. DD is peak or very clsoe to it in agility and reflexes. thor will lose